๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social)
tax pollution โข tax land โข give people money don't tax the rich, pay the poor. jacyanthis.com www.cgdev.org/expert/rachel-glennerster economics.uchicago.edu/directory/Michael-Kremer
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Approval voting!
Michael Andersen (@andersem.bsky.social) reposted
โPresident Trumpโs 50 percent tariffs landed like a declaration of economic war on India, undercutting enormous investments made by American companies to hedge their dependency on China.โ www.nytimes.com/2025/09/01/b...
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
unions ๐คฎ just provide a social safety net. Ubi now.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
awesome
Felix Sargent (@fsargent.bsky.social) reposted
We have the first ever cast vote records from an approval voting election! โ โ โ๏ธโ The St. Louis data is conclusive: voters embraced the system's flexibility. 33% approved multiple candidates, debunking bullet voting myths. felixsargent.com/democracy/20...
Equal Vote Coalition (@equalvote.bsky.social) reposted
Great analysis by @fsargent.bsky.social on the benefits of Approval Voting as seen in the most recent St. Louis election: felixsargent.com/democracy/20...
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
with political pressure.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
newrepublic.com/article/1627...
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
against yimby ideas generally. she's totally got Boomer vibes
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
ironically, Naomi wolf is also against this.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
public comment is a deranged idea.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
so, political pressure, but only at specific intervals. reduce the power of any one administration. average it out over multiple administrations. seems reasonable.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
it's almost as if we want taxes with negative or neutral dead weight loss.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
certainly a hell of a lot more than if we picked randomly. although we should upgrade to score voting or approval voting.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
well, political pressure ultimately just means accountability to be aligned with the public interest, so there has to be some kind of political pressure at the end of the day.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
The hidden cost of blocking Ubi.
California YIMBY (@cayimby.bsky.social) reposted
[BILL ALERT] SB 79, which broadly legalizes more homes near high quality transit stops, has passed the Assembly appropriations committee! The bill now goes to the Assembly floor, then back to the Senate for concurrence. Learn more: cayimby.org/legislation/...
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
there's no evidence of this that I've ever seen. it may be more appealing to voting reform activists because they tend to be idealistic and prioritize the feeling of expressing a ranked preference, whereas the vast majority of voters would prefer the simplicity of approval voting
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
it's extremely irrational to have more than two choices in the runoff. you can just call the first round the general if you like. there are no primaries.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
then just educate them.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
of course, it matters what voting method is used in the general because if there are more than two candidates, a bad voting method can get you a sub-optimal outcome. but no idea why you would want more than two in the general anyway. medium.com/election-sci...
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
you should do the top two and do a head-to-head. there's absolutely no reason to do ranked choice. Approval voting is superior to it in every way.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
no, I did not prove your point, I countered it.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
ideally they were not partial, they just looked objectively at the facts and the facts supported the conclusion without any need for bias.
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www.electionbyjury.org/manifesto
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
I met Scott when he was running to be d10 supervisor in San Francisco in 2010. I think. he was standing on the street getting signatures to run. I signed but this was way before I knew anything about housing economics. so ironic. I thought I was a progressive at the time and signed to be nice.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
what is there to debate. housing is an essential thing that we need for people to live for the love of God
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๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
Yes, it satisfies the favorite betrayal criterion which is amazing.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
That's not a strategy. asitoughttobemagazine.com/2010/07/18/s...
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
well, it's not true that there's no strategic voting with approval voting, it's just that it still gets good results even if voters are strategic.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
so we need to run our government with election by jury so rational thought goes into setting policy.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
The owners of companies are not interested in giving away money. they want to be rich.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
there's no evidence that I'm not familiar with any of that. it just doesn't support your position in any way.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
you have to switch to score voting or at least approval voting if you want this to go away.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
A system is designed for parties if the electability matters because parties are an indicator of electability, not to mention The advantages of team coordination. most voting methods incentivize this. www.rangevoting.org/NESD
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
that doesn't make any sense. if they weren't efficient, they would be fired and replaced with people who were more efficient.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
that doesn't make sense. we want taxes with negative or neutral dead weight loss.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
nah. they're quite efficient and operate at very small margins.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
that makes no sense. paying in excess of the market rate for something is effectively charity, and why would you give charity to people who happen to work for you rather than the people who are the most in need like those in third world countries?
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
fuck yes
David Ho (@davidho.bsky.social) reposted
Motherfucking wind farmsโฆ
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
just do Ubi damn it
Dave Guarino (@allafarce.bsky.social) reposted
Claude Opus 4.1, to me, while building out a comprehensive policy understanding of SNAP simplified reporting: โThe confusion in the documents shows how complex this system is - if we're getting tripped up just researching it, imagine how confusing it must be for actual SNAP recipients!โ EXACTLY
Richard Eriksson (@sillygwailo.com) reposted
The MetaFilter Board election will be held soon using approval voting. This will be the second time Iโve voted in such an election, and the first time I did it (for the Drupal Association Board), it felt good not to split the vote between the two candidates I was equally supportive of [โฆ]
Timothy Snyder (@timothysnyder.bsky.social) reposted
Everyone who was wrong about Trump โ please say so openly to those who trust you and follow you. You have influence and thus bear responsibility.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
mamdani sucks. x.com/cremieuxrecu...
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
my co-author there took his phd under John Horton Conway, who invented the game of life.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
a bunch of disagreements. You're confused.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
not quite. I've elaborated on this here with Warren Smith, a Princeton math PhD was arguably the world's top expert on voting theory. www.rangevoting.org/RVstrat6
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
but there's not any evidence to support that skepticism..
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
there's zero evidence that it's unsuitable for any offices. clayshentrup.medium.com/the-proporti...
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
no, it wins for being incredibly accurate and resistant to strategy, and also being precinct summable so it helps escape duopoly. The simplicity is just icing on the cake.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
I don't know what you mean by it doesn't have to. it objectively doesn't but that's a major flaw of that system. not to mention it being complicated and inaccurate. some analysis we wrote in November 2006. www.rangevoting.org/AusIRV
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
not remotely realistic.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
some people in Oregon are about to file an initiative for election by jury. this would be utterly transformative and blow alternative voting methods out of the water. www.electionbyjury.org/manifesto
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
Note that the United States has won unrivaled virtue. our ability to do citizen ballot initiatives via signature gathering even at the city level. this is how we got two US cities to adopt approval voting for mere tens of thousands of dollars. this is promising.
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if you're trying to break duopoly, score/approval voting are by far the best options, and arguably the only options. asitoughttobemagazine.com/2010/07/18/s... www.rangevoting.org/NESD
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
Approval voting is almost as good as the best, and dead simple and cheap and transparent. it's overall the best bang for the buck by a light year. by a parsec even.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
Approval voting is just score voting on a binary 0 to 1 scale. The scale resolution doesn't make that big of a difference though.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
Don't blame me, I helped two cities get approval voting.
Maia (@maiamindel.bsky.social) reposted reply parent
ngl my median scenario for the us is that maga just becomes the new normal and the us descends into pure russia where the economy is broken, breaks culture, and there's no political solution anymore
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
wealth can be separated into investment and consumption. your utility function depends on your consumption, not how much investment you own.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
Oregon property taxes are extremely low.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
Note, we are making a highly capitalist argument. get rid of taxes on income and capital gains, and anything else that is the product of the labor of the person being taxed. replace rent control and minimum wage and any in-kind benefits of the social stage, internet with Ubi, etc. pure capitalism.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
irrelevant. Land value taxes don't have dead weight loss, so you want to maximize them. You're having an emotional reaction because you don't understand the economics behind the issue.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
to you, it doesn't because you don't know basic economic concepts.
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www.noahpinion.blog/p/europes-cr...
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DMV New Liberals (@dmv.cnliberalism.org) reposted
๐ฎ ๐ฎ ๐ฎ www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
Secretary of Defense Rock (@sodrock.bsky.social) reposted
On one hand, at least he's coming around on the other, fuck you
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
yeah if you can make a guy this deranged look electable, you are a marketing genius.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
He's absolutely awful on policy but charismatic like our man Trump. so leave it to the low information voters to get him elected.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
it is mathematically proven that if you use different axioms, it results in absurdities. if I had a nickel for every time I had to explain this to a novice like you, I would be a rich man. your hubris is amazing. www.rangevoting.org/UtilFoundns
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
state what you believe to be the correct social welfare function and I will easily show you how it results in absurdities. www.rangevoting.org/UtilFoundns
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
you have not shown any holes in my thinking. you have just shown that you don't understand the subject matter and you have plowed forward with immense novice confidence despite not being able to make a single coherent argument.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
The subjectivity is in the preferences you have for the candidates or options. assessing how the voting method should aggregate those subjective preferences is 100% objective and mathematically proven. give me any alternative social welfare function and I can show that it leads to absurdity.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
if you have different preferences than me, you can vote for different candidates or options than me. why is this so hard for you to grasp?
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
you keep saying things with this utter certainty despite demonstrably not having a basic grounding in social choice theory. your confidence is far in excess of your expertise. which is basically zero.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
we can empirically observe people trying to maximize their expected utility. and we know that the system that maximizes net utility maximizes the expected utility for any given voter, at least to the extent they are behind a veil of ignorance. which is reasonably good approximation.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
no, it is a claim about the nature of what preferences are that can be objectively assessed. we understand the biological underpinnings of preferences. genes trying to get themselves copied. we can use revealed preference experiments to see how people decide things under uncertainty. you are wrong.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
so far you have not made a single even remotely coherent argument against approval voting. you thought it had some issue with "bias", and I've shown you data that that is absurdly wrong. then you just hand wave about meta preferences but can't specifically critique approval voting.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
You're stuck in the classic fallacy of confusion between subjective and objective. your preferences are subjective but how to aggregate them can be objectively evaluated.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
it doesn't matter what values you hold. you can like whatever candidates you like or whatever options you're voting on, however much you want to. but we can objectively evaluate a system in terms of how well it aggregates those preferences to select the result that makes the most people the happiest
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
The literal point of democracy is to maximize your expected utility. That's the point of decisions and that's why you evolved that decision-making machine between your ears. and election is just a decision made by more than one person.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
but you said your issue was bias, and that's something we already account for in these measurements. so you were just wrong about that. among all voting methods, approval voting is extremely good in terms of having very low bias
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
like sure, you could pick a voting method because you like the name of it. it just makes you happy. and you can say that preferences are subjective. sure you can like a voting method for whatever reason you want to. you can also be crazy and unpragmatic.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
yeah that's just mental illness. like these people you elect are going to determine whether you go to war and how much taxes you pay. and if you think the way your ballot looks or silly superficial aspect of the voting process is significant. compared to that, you are just insane.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
to you prefer to have preferences that are fulfillable is just irrational. that is literally mental illness. The point of making decisions is to maximize the expected number of copies of your genes you make. That's literally why you evolved that gray decision-making machine between your ears.
๐โ๏ธ the free market welfare state ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฑ (@capitalist.bsky.social) reply parent
if your preference is to see the guy win who other people would prefer, that would already be factored into your utility.
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like you could have a system that has zero bias but adds randomness and thus gives you statistically much worse outcomes but without biasing toward the center or extremes and that would hurt you much more. if you prefer that system because it's not biased, you are an irrational fool.