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U.S. officials confirmed a case of the flesh-eating parasite in a person who traveled from El Salvador. Screwworm typically affects cattle in South America, but has spread north in recent years.
Absolutely none of that comes without action or difficult choice! Unless of course you would describe posting as action. Which...yeah, you're a very active bunch.
What? I'm arguing in favor of a vigorous primary against dogshit Newsom and then conceding that he's probably a better choice for marginalized people than John Q Hitler who the Republicans run and then voting for a shitty candidate because the stakes are so high.
There is literally nothing less brave or meaningful than describing your apathy as virtue. Absolutely meaningless words, except on the internet, where you get a lil dopamine. It's genuinely disgraceful.
It's more telling than y'all think that you've done almost no rebutting. Just name calling and having flashbacks of every liberal you've ever argued with in the internet and just hitting the stump speech. "They don't want victory, they don't want power. They want to endlessly *critique* power".
It's called an analogy, bob. I don't think you're actually on an aircraft with a wife.
Oh, but trans people don't? Are trans people allowed to vote for Newsom then, or are they a uniform voting block? And um, lots of them? Look up quotes from like, Biden in the 70s. Since deriving worst case policy positions from quotes is objectively *what we're doing here*
So brave. Thank you for your moral stance, as evidenced by *checks notes* not voting
Oh hey I know that one, goes something like "And when they came for the POC, I stayed home, because I was not a POC and also there was internet clout to be had and I am incapable of complex thought"
In the provided scenario, they are already jettisoned and the choice is between jettisoning more people or trying to stop it. You and your lot are the dude who's wife has been jettisoned already and so has decided no one else's suffering matters. And you loudly proclaim this as virtue.
Uh huh, what that functionally means is campaigning against Newsom while it matters. What it doesn't mean is punting when your stakes are lessened. Black women have not been served by democrats over decades. Should they stop voting? Even if it's defensible, do you see how bad that is for all of us?
Y'all aren't big readers huh? More of a 'skim & rage' crowd.
You're assigning to me things you feel about everyone in that app that you deem a liberal and so you're yelling at them again. I'm not that and the train of logic I laid out is sound. Engage or don't
Sorry, no. There is no team spirit in loudly proclaiming you won't even vote if the nominee is ________ because he isn't good enough to ________ group. No one else who he might be good to *is* helped, and in fact are actively harmed by the alternative. It sucks but that's just math.
Part of politics, hell, part of being an adult is reducing harm and harm is objectively *not* reduced by punting on a choice between theocratic autocracy and a centrist dickhead democrat. We don't have to settle for Newsom and we certainly shouldn't, but we don't have to do this either.
Newsom sucks, but why is it that when we talk about trans rights we do so to the exclusion of other marginalized groups? Trans people being vindicated for proclamations of sitting out the next election would be awfully fucking hard for me to swallow if I were, say, a poc with family being kidnapped
Here's a piece that absolutely no one asked for and absolutely nobody needed! - NYT
zohran mamdani is making me filled with too much hope for the future whatever happened to the good old politics of “everything must be dog shit”
There are so, so many people I will never forgive for all of this dumbass shit.
the actual communication problem democrats have is this: their most prominent national figures filter everything through focus grouped lines and are incapable of plain speech
Just please, pretty please, don't tell me that it's some kind of ethical stand. Like you're the last one on the wall, waving the standard. You're addicted to engagement and/or you're making a little money and you don't want to give either up. Which isn't great, but it offends me less than the lie.
Who is this for you absolute WEIRDO
"Robert's decision to drunk drive a lifted 4-runner through the Shady Oaks trailer park while mag dumping an AK-47 blindly out the window stood out as a bold departure from traffic norms."
You’re telling me this guy is not a more desirable guy to promote than Gavin Newsom
Five municipal grocery stores in a city of 8 million people is unrealistic and a harbinger of our descent into communism, but mailing every single American household healthy food? Very Serious People want you to know it’s totally doable.
Do people really say that? I mean, I know conservative dickholes do but they have a different, worse justification than that last sentence. People probably intimate it with their Heyyyy Let's Change Our Messaging To Something More Popularrrrr bullshit
It's behind parody. I know we say that a lot, but it's never been more true than this.
How quickly trump made it to the aging Boomer’s Ur-Grievance, the “I went to a museum and everything was woke and tried to make me feel bad” rant every chain restaurant server in every suburb has to hear 15 times per shift.
Did you hear about the car that got hit by a truck full of pasta? Yeah it ended up all denty.
It's wild to watch grown adults let their ideology of how the world should function be based entirely on who annoyed them recently.
Why are you wearing jeans you freak
What?
I genuinely do think that's what he means, yeah. You have to be a huge dickhead with bad opinions to defeat dickheads with bad opinions I guess!
We’re working on it. That’s all I can say for now. Subscribe to The Onion.
This is what my veins need
#ReleaseTheCuomoList
LA offers better jaw lines and hair cuts, but oh lord is there a cost...
I think the language says Crystals much more strongly than it says Licensed.
Ugh, man I guess.
It is just me or should it be a bigger story that like...you were already mayor. Trump was already president. Why are we all pretending that we don't know who and what you guys are?
Hi Kafka, the point is that Republicans always seem to find a way to pressure Democrats even when they supposedly have no power! And in moments where they feel emboldened to share ideas that are reprehensible (most of the time) I'd love a full throated condemnation, like they save for Mamdani.
I'm going to bed, what a shitty day on the internet.
Are you trying to convince me that Newsom and Buttigieg aren't good candidates, something I've agreed with you on at least 3 times? I don't understand what we're still doing here.
And not for nothing, but you don't get to just leave 2020 off the list there like it doesn't count. Biden was plenty moderate and we didn't "get more nazis" I also don't love the characterization that Nazis are just a thing that happens, a response to inputs or whatever, like ants at a picnic.
It is not what she said and you know it. The absolute best case is that that is someone's takeaway, but it isn't what she said. If she had said that, word for word as you wrote it, I'd have just liked it and been on my way.
He should! That's not what she did!
I've said the same thing 100 times today and been called a fascist 100 times so you'll forgive me if I don't care to keep doing this tonight with someone else who will just eventually squirm away and ask me why I think it's good to remove trans rights or some shit.
Because the other candidate he is running against wants to kill her! And not just her! They're sending people to concentration camps and we're still pretending we were justified in withholding our votes for _____ issue, when the other dude is and obviously was much, much worse *on that issue*
Hi J. Andrew! The premise of the original post was that Buttigieg was the nominee! Thanks for not reading to come scold me!
And endanger us in a real, tangible way. Not in a vague, slippery slope, vibes based way that everyone has been assuring me Pete fucking Buttigieg is the same as the worst Republican because something something.
I know Comply In Advance feels good to say and really paints me like a fascist enabler but that's fucking shitty. I'm not that and I've never been that and it's not outrageous for me to say that she's wrong about this declaration and that people listening to her endanger all of us.
Buttigieg has learned nothing trying to cozy up to a moderate base that doesn't exist, and leftist influencer will push that somehow, someway, it is more moral to punt on the choice (even if it is a lousy choice) to have a say in the next president when one will be a fucking Republican in 2028.
That's just completely fabricated. Like...I'm sure that guy exists on here, I've done none of that. I don't like Pete Buttigieg. Who gives a shit about his ass. I just find it stunning that now, even now, we appear to have learned nothing.
Because the other one is a Nazi, who both does not think they deserve right and wants to slaughter them.
It's so tired. In the hypothetical laid out, trans people will be diminished if either candidate wins. They will be diminished less in one scenario. I would prefer a better scenario. That wasn't the discussion. So tired. Please just attack me for what I actually said.
Oh so you read both wrong. What're the odds, that's kinda impressive. The original post is not ambiguous. It's an overt flag planting. I am not suggesting anything, I'm saying plainly that trans people *are harmed* by not engaging in the civic process if one of the two outcomes is a Nazi.
I don't want trans people to be quiet. Would you like to reframe your Accusation Question?
You came in frothing at the mouth because you thought you had a liberal to dunk on. Now you're flailing cuz you still wanna be mad but I've said nothing unreasonable.
Nah you're scrounging. You're cornered and this is weak. Yes, I'm at the corners of the political bazaar. Trans rights for a dollar? Do I hear two dollars? It's me, random man who loves to bargain with human rights somehow!
Real advocacy is reducing harm to the vulnerable. Not voting does not, has not, will never do that. Die mad about it.
How many times must I explain that that is precisely the premise of the post, it's the nature of the thread, it's *what we're talking about*.
You suggest it's non negotiable as though you can like...cancel the election. Like, nope! Deals off guys! That's my red line, everyone line up and run campaigns again! It doesn't work like that. We'll have two choices and it's very possible the best choice will be a dick. That's not my preference.
It's cute that we're pretending not voting is a powerful, brave middle finger to the establishment. That'll show the appeasers! If we aren't careful, the appeasers could turn into the guy who won instead of the appeaser! Phew! It's like the family guy mystery box and boat sketch.
Every person certainly has imagined that yes, because they feel attacked when their dip shit logic is laid before them in a non specific way. Center-Right dip shit or Nazi, I'll take the Center-Right dipshit. Ya'll won't, and that makes ya feel funny. I don't blame you. Maybe examine that.
Goodbye fuckface
My friend, do you know what the premise of the original post is? The premise is that Buttigieg *is* the nominee. Yes, let's find a better fucking candidate. I don't want to vote for another center right dweeb. But I will given the choices laid out *in the post I'm responding to*. Fucking hell.
Lmao I suggested it would be better that Buttigieg would be president than a Republican if those are our options and I've been on blast for an entire day. You can come down off your high horse, nobody's watching to impress.
Hey dipshit? This is the premise of the post I am responding to.
Look I know making up quotes and attributing them to me is convenient and popular, but it's nothing. You know it's nothing right? You're beating the hell out of the person you've invented I'll admit. It just has nothing to do with me.
When combined with the crucial context that the other human being who would be president if not this dickhead will be a real life American Nazi No Mac, no it couldn't. I guess if you're here to agitate and dog pile it could though!
I'm younger than you I'd wager and I'm a leftist. Just the kind with higher ambitions than internet clout and Being Right as everything burns around us.
Gosh I'm not seeing "trans people shouldn't have rights, actually in here".
Hey, thanks for checking in. Fuck off forever. 👍
Relax bud.
Brother my world will change very little, or at least a lot less and not nearly as bad as trans people's world (and other marginalized groups) if they withhold a vote for another center right Democrat. You don't know anything about me but I know it's exciting to pretend someone is a liberal.
Oh I did! Could you show me where I literally did that?
Literally you but whatever, paraphrase me into the ground if it helps.
Bye Kat. It's been weird and you're as dumb as you are unpleasant.
What a fun subset of creeps you people are. "There is only one group worth advocating for, and it is my group, and any kind of injustice is exactly the same as the absolute worst kind. I believe this non ironically and I will spend my days calling everyone else transphobic". Y'all are fucked.
And more besides. Black and brown people. Women, cis and otherwise. They will look at you as insular, naive and self absorbed. And they'll be right! And we'll all suffer. And as we all go to the wall I hope someone smugly mutters to me about how any modicum of oppression is exactly the same as this
...because one candidate wasn't as strong on trans rights and the other was in the American Nazi Party and they just were both bad, she won't look to you as a hero holding the line. She will look at you as a betrayer who couldn't be bothered to sully their precious moralizing by making a choice.
Somewhere there is a little girl, maybe she doesn't know she's trans yet. Maybe she does. And when she knows for sure, in 2032 or something, and this country elects a full blown fascist after flirting with it for years, if you tell her that when it was time to choose you decided to not bother...
God damn you people are fucking dense. I hope it's an act.
It is inarguable that a Republican in 2028 would be worse for trans people than milk toast as Pete Buttigieg. If what you want to do with that obvious fact is call me a transphone and go to bed smug and self satisfied, that's fine. More people will be hurt, and your moralizing has helped no one.
Yeah, that's why we blast him in the primaries for this shit. Again, that's not the hypothetical I'm responding to. You all are having an imaginary argument over something I never said or engaged with. Her premise is that he's the nominee!
The premise. Of the OP's declaration. Was that Buttigieg. Win the nomination. Again. The premise I am responding to is that he has ALREADY WON the nomination. That's our starting point. You have to read or you really can't meaningfully contribute here, if that's your intention (it's not).
Jeff. Jeff. Please read. One choice is the guy who, in your convoluted roadmap, will eventually lead to nazis. The other choice IS ALREADY A NAZI. You can not with a straight face tell me there isn't a preferential choice there! What are we fucking doing?
Because in the provided scenario it is either the guy with a bad trans opinion or a LITERAL NAZI, JEFF. They're not known for their love of marginalized communities and it is not a debate about which one would be worse for trans people, this is so fucking simple why are we pretending it isn't!!
We're talking in circles let's just leave it alone
You don't owe it to the politician, you owe it to the people who would be hurt by Republican politics. But you don't care enough. Period. There's really nothing left to say. People get hurt and other people didn't care to stop it. Yeah, I blame those people a little.
I can, and do, do both. This is the binary thought that I've been bemoaning the entire time. It's the Democrats fault, uh huh, and there's blame too for people who didn't care to put their finger on the scale when one side of the scale was fascism.
Lol good pivot, I'd get the fuck off that position too if I were you
Seeing who I'm replying to is not some vague thing to be interpreted. But I appreciate your eagerness to get mad!
Bro I thought we were going to WAR? You seem pretty ready to sacrifice others, and in a real way too. Not a "guy has a bad position about trans sports and that's actually genocide" way.
One of the best critiques of the way media critiques the right is their framing robs them of agency; everything is a reaction to something leftists did, like a force of nature that should be worked around. That critique is also important with sentiments like this.
I guess add being hopelessly confused by simple sentiments to those experiences y'all share
Be sure to be the first one on the line slugger.
That depends, is there someone in the replies for me to peacock about it to?
Being self masturbatory on social media seems a bit mundane to earn the moniker "shared experience" but go off I guess
Disaffected leftists feel the tug of latent guilt as the country burns around them. B-but both parties are the same, they mutter to themselves. Somewhere, a brown person is kidnapped. Someone suggests next election we don't do this again. The leftist froths and screams.