*…sinking ship 😉
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*…sinking ship 😉
Maybe independent…or maybe form a new union with the rest of the West coast…or maybe they will stay with the thinking ship. Even California has their share of lunatics. 38,3% voted for Trump. 1,2% voted for Kennedy.
Only 31% of registered voters did what was necessary…everyone else is to blame…plus the people that were eligible to become registered voters but didn’t even bother to get that done.
Democracy has very little support in the US.
Only 31% of registered voters voted to avoid this…I would put everyone else in the insane column…and many didn’t even bother to become registered as a voter.
With no allies left…the US will be in free fall. Deservedly so.
Sanity…the US…doesn’t fit together.
The contrast between JB Pritzker calling out fascism as fascism and Hakeem Jeffries’s generic GOP administration level criticism that still insists common ground can be found is unsustainable. Congressional Dems have got to pick a messaging lane, and it needs to be Pritzker’s.
There can be no common ground with fascism.
When you imitate the far-right you become a part of the far-right. You don’t get to keep the centrism label.
It is a choice, imitate the far-right (and become the far-right) or fight the far-right. KS might already have made his choice.
They become the far-right. No excuses.
You are almost there…of course are the fascists these days.
No…invaded is correct. Two pariahs working together…not really a shock to anyone.
Why not all colleges? Why would you allow the best education to be a privilege for the few?
It was always a lie.
If they are an ally of Putin they should be thrown out of the EU.
Trump is always given credit because “he says it as it is.” Well, let me say it as it is: Trump is a racist, rapist, bigoted, fascist leaning, sexist, criminal.
So becoming Reform to avoid a Reform victory. What’s the point? Doesn’t KS stand for anything…is it only about reelection.
Even if it didn’t fail it would still be despicable behaviour. It is also a bad strategy. Do they really want the next GE to be between Reform and a Labour with Reform policies…where is the choice? Does KS stand for nothing…except attempting to be reelected?
There are many disappointing aspects to Starmer’s leadership, but I think the most disappointing one is, he won’t take the fight with Reform. Instead he is copying them- a strategy that will fail.
That's where the fight is at
So does KS.
Sadly,Labour are a NO to rejoining the EU, NO to Single Market, NO to Customs Union, NO to freedom of movement, HARD brexit party They are also a fundamentalist unionist party, who are hostile to the people of Scotland ever having a choice on their constitutional future Labour are not for Scotland
Since the Labour leadership clearly doesn’t share her opinions it is of very little use.
True. Sadly the Labour government is stuck imitating Reform/Farage.
You make excellent points & you've bothered to post them here, thank you. Im very disappointed that the leader of the party is incapable of doing either.
Why is Mr #Starmer SILENT on the chaos of #Farage 's #Brexit? Why will he not scream about this divisive vitriolic hate+ call it out loudly+repeatedly with HIS +VE VISION? Where ARE #Labour on all this? If you don't challenge it, you ALLOW it!!! Why no coverage of #LibDems ' #EdDavey who DOES?
And yet spineless Labour cosplay Reform policy. And why do you still even now back the moronic disingenuous idiocy of 'make Brexit work'?🙄
The KS led Labour government doesn’t exactly try to distance itself from Reform/Farage.
Hello Stella, why is your Labour party still pro-Brexit and why do you support now "make Brexit work"? bsky.app/profile/chil...
Good arguments. But why Starmer is doubling down eve today with his usual Faragist language? Why? Why don’t you criticise him as well?
Absolutely the case. Partisan tribal/cultist irrationality & stupidity took over rational thought. Yet these are the same people who claim it is somehow everyone else who is out of step & they preach sanctimoniously about 'not understanding politics' BfB are very much driven by Labour sentiment.
Such a UK doesn’t currently exist.
May I say a few nuances? We have strategically progressed in the EU thanks to Brexit : we have set up policies in pharmaceuticals, arm industries, common debt, strategic autonomy, digital rules … EU citizens have massively benefited from Brexit.
The US has been moving in this direction for decades.
Only 31% of registered voters voted to avoid this.
They did put him there…twice.
People will say that this is not who we are. Guess what? It is who we are.
They are not proving him wrong.
The US constitution has proven to be worthless.
Yes, the UK is a single state. You still haven't explained what your point was. Kresten never claimed that the EU was a "country". So the EU is a group of countries that has decided to take a path, and the UK is a single state that has decided to its own, different path. So...?
There are many many differences between the European Union and United Kingdom. British do like to emphasise that they are a union of nations, but at the end of the day it acts like a unitary state. All power resides in Westminster and devolved powers are decided by politicians in London.
The EU is a group of countries, and the members of the EU decide together about membership of other countries which made an application for membership. Btw. The UK is also an union of countries. So what's your point?
USA hegemony has turned to "bullying" The damage that man Trump is doing to the world is literally incalculable. And all to finance tax "thievery" for the mega-rich. Similar to the motive behind the triggering of Brexit. www.france24.com/en/live-news...
Because they are evil and stupid. Evil because they want to remove the rights of others … stupid because they think that they will be keeping their rights.
The status quo suits us just fine. The UK is no longer a liability, Brexit has been ring fenced. It might be a disaster for the UK but that is another matter.
It would be interesting to see what would happen if a major party wholeheartedly came out and argued for membership without exemptions or special treatment. Would 'rejoiners' then coalesce around the idea, or keep on about their own specific wants / red lines?
I don’t question their capabilities. Capabilities don’t mean anything if we can’t trust them.
The UK is very close to becoming a lost cause if they are not one already.
Being dependent on the UK might turn out to be just as stupid as being dependent on the US. Should have chosen an EU supplier.
The UK can always choose to go full pariah. We really should stop listening to them.
At least the UK has to finally take their fair share. Not that they want to. They never were a team player when they were an EU member. Luckily for the EU they can no longer get away with their divide and conquer and other shenanigans…not that they are not still trying of course.
I leant my vote to Labour at the last election because I couldn't stand another minute of the Conservative lying, personal greed and general disinterest in the welfare of UK citizens a moment longer. No more! My vote will be for the Party that commits to rejoin the EU. That's the post!
Of course we can survive Trump. We need to distance ourselves from the US.
Not in any way actually but of course those who want the old Europe…always at war with itself might see it that way.
He doesn’t deserve it. I am not sure that any US president ever deserved it but he is the worst candidate ever.
Farage has ancestors who were immigrants. Hypocrite. He was Mr. Brexit yet is a resident of Belgium, has a German wife and children with dual passports and has 4 houses and is a multi-millionaire. He is not a man of the people.
…plenty of refugees with their foreign policies and arms sales. The UK is currently not EU membership material.
Why would we ever want the UK back in the EU if you still think that you should never be a part to any solution. The UK always only in it for themselves. That attitude finally has consequences. Why should the UK take no refugees just because they are not the first safe country? The UK creates…
You never did your part when you were in the EU. Now you have to.
The UK finally has to take their fair share that is a good thing. The UK was never a team player in the EU.
Or did I hallucinate Jonas and Visma racing very aggressively and making almost every stage very hard - and then getting criticized endlessly for it because it didn’t work?
…will be no opt outs. There are definitely regional differences within the UK. As long as the regions stay a part of the UK that doesn’t matter. Should some regions become independent then that is another matter entirely.
70%+ voted for the hard Brexit parties in the 2024 GE. That is what matters. What they say in opinion polls is worthless when they don’t follow through when it actually matters. Also watch the support for the EU crash when people realise that the UK is not going to dictate to the EU. There…
How dare you.
…the same. Their position changed long before they left the EU…before they even joined in the first place. Their self image needs to be recalibrated.
Not much negotiation will be possible. The EU is not going to change its overall structures or damage its SM etc. in order to accommodate a UK that still sees itself as worthy of special treatment. The attitude is all wrong. The UK needs to recognize that their position in the World is no longer
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The lazy critique of Europe, and giving UKG a pass, is typical. Labour are perhaps standing up to Farage and defending relations. Good. But change that matters will mean dropping more redlines for UKG and accepting that Europe calls the shots. Ends
Trying to use the current geopolitical situation as a lever to continue their demand for special treatment is nothing short of despicable. The UK is a liability to the EU. They still haven’t learned their lesson.
Common defence, Russia, strengthening Schengen, dealing with populism, and making sure the SM is delivering for citizens. These are existential issues. UK relations are not existential. Indeed Europe is broadly happy with the current deal. 6
After the framework for negotiation was. agreed, Labour floated that they wanted carveouts seemingly to allow some US foods enter the UK (and therefore likely our foodchains) Europe is likely going to have to explain our priorities ab initio and deal with UKG cavilling for months again. 4
Labour entered scoping talks. Instead of learning from the Tories' experience, they continued to ignore European redlines. They kept pushing for exceptional treatment, esp. on SPS, against the precautionary principle. Effectively that was responsible for the serious delays. 3
As always this is entitlement/exceptionalism. Some people will never learn.
The British electorate voted for Brexit. It then endorsed the current Europe-UK relationship. Labour voted for Brexit in Parliament, whipped by the current PM. It then ran on its redlines, which were approved by the electorate. These completely hemmed in Labour's margin for manoeuvre. 2
Decent episode of @quietriotpod.bsky.social, but this sentence from Naomi Smith on the "reset" talks, Dio mio! "[Europe] needs to get on with it and expedite [the talks] more quickly..." Ma che palle! Let's contextualise this. A, 🧵
What she doesn’t get is that the EU has moved on. Our direction is just not necessarily the same direction as the one the UK has taken. The junior partner doesn’t decide what the senior partner does. Especially not when the junior partner has proven to be untrustworthy.
Exactly.
No matter what steps the UK take…it will have to align with the EU. It is not going to be the other way around.
Every time the UK falls behind on this they need to be sanctioned. UK businesses can’t be allowed to gain a competitive advantage…and why would support such initiatives and accept subpar food?
People who vote Reform or GOP in the US can’t be argued with. They resist facts.
They. Don't. Want. To. Know.
You talked about “rejoining” I am pretty sure that you meant the EU not certain programs available to nonmembers.
If EEA/SM is the goal then every EU member and EEA member needs to approve. This comes with requirements too. The UK holds no cards whatsoever. The behaviour of the past including entitlement/exceptionalism will get the UK nowhere.
…facing every applicant.
That is not EU membership. EU membership can only be obtained via article 49 and accepting the entire EU acquis (no opt outs). All applicants must qualify under the Copenhagen criteria and will have to avoid being vetoed (every MS has a veto). This is the opposite of emotional it is the facts
A transactional UK…is best kept out of the EU. All of the acquis or none of it. That of course doesn’t mean that we can’t cooperate with them on certain issues. Membership is not necessarily for everyone.
In that case it's just best the UK never rejoins. Europe is *not* transactional. Maybe for the Brits but not for us Europeans.
I'm siding with you on this topic.
*They either…
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There is no rejoin only join under article 49 like all other applicants. The UK can apply. Everything else is dictated by the EU and its MSs. The EU acquis is not up for negotiation with a non member. There can be no opt outs.
I don't entirely agree with you Erwin. The UK needs to change. Certainly the politicians. If the UK ever wants to join the EU again it should prove it would want to for the right reasons.
Hungary should get kicked out of the EU.
Yes, they should. It should have happened already.
…their sense of entitlement or remain on the outside. The EU doesn’t need the UK. We need a strong EU. We can get what we need from them without allowing them to jeopardize what we have.
The UK being transactional only is why it currently doesn’t belong. They never bought into the idea of our community. They were only ever in it for themselves. Constantly demanding special treatment. No one in the EU accept this anymore. The days of British blackmail is over. The either eradicate
That is an issue for the UK.
You can’t compare a nonmember to a member. It is very difficult to join the EU. It is very easy to stay in the EU (no expulsion clause). We shouldn’t add new members until we have an expulsion clause and a clear definition as to when to use it. We have clear rules for joining though.