Iâm going to stick my neck out and predict that by the time of the substantive hearing in November, there probably wonât be any protests or public order issues.
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Iâm going to stick my neck out and predict that by the time of the substantive hearing in November, there probably wonât be any protests or public order issues.
I wonder if the council ever considered that nature ie the changing seasons would solve the public order issue which the judge seemed to think was the real reason for bringing the action. As we head into autumn, outdoor âeventsâ of this type will be rather less appealing.
Got our own version of ICE
As you know her department deports and separates parents from their children even though theyâve nothing wrong. As for her argument about it not being fair that asylum seekers donât face the same requirements as British citizens, how about equalising it by abolishing the MIR.
Does seem to be a focus on the latter. Their timeline seems to include attacks on immigration judges similar to that on Lord Justice Bean.
Not the main point but curious as to who they would provide pro-bono assistance to. Arrested protestors? Residents wishing to object to a hotel being used?
Fair point
Presumably this (âraping our kidsâ) amounts to a racially aggravated public order offence.
Or is hearsay one of those legal concepts that people commonly think means something different? And whilst weâre on the subject am I correct in thinking that in America there are no exceptions in criminal trials to the rule against hearsay?
Invitation to treat?
So Iâve read the original Guardian article and I canât see anything that meets the definition of hearsay.
Assuming law was your undergrad
Like Liz Truss slagging off her Thatcher era comp
Donât suppose you applied to Somerville? My mum was a don there so might have interviewed you..,
Say the same about Brexit though. Donât think it was a priority for ordinary people even if many did vote to leave.
Yes I agree itâs rather tacky looking
Does she know what hearsay is or is it just one of those words that sheâs heard and thinks itâll sound impressive?
Just a couple of months until there can be a VONC. Trying to think what earthly reason there is for keeping her place and surely better to do it sooner rather than later.
Nice way to reward the LA thatâs spent money trying to achieve what theyâve been demanding
Either heâs lying about keeping a flag in his flat or heâs a bit weird.
I realise this probably isnât a relevant consideration for the BBC but I do wish, not just in this case, that we could stop referring to l people as a noun and Iâm sure it affects how people see them. I know itâs a bit clunky but itâs risks being dehumanising.
Given his background youâd think heâd be more vocal about people committing criminal damage.
That the Tories want to deny benefits to those with indefinite leave to remain even if theyâve lived here for decades or their whole life suggests a wish to encourage âremigrationâ.
Oh well played
Barbara Rich told me that he also wrote a book about injunctions. Having had to revise the test for interim injunctions which like a lot of these things can be a bit processy itâs been fascinating to see a real life example put it into practice
All this talk of ârenegotiatingâ without asking Ireland whether theyâre agreeable to renegotiating doesnât exactly suggest respecting them as equal partners does it?
Lord Justice Bean was the judge who sentenced Jon Venables in 2010 for downloading child abuse images. That seems rather more publicly interesting information than anything else weâve heard.
Shouldnât Musk go back to South Africa?
Whatâs the end game? He draws up this âlist of shameâ which he sends to âprogressive think tanksâ. Whatâs that supposed to achieve?
IIRC that was because the Home Secretary was not impartial given his unpopular those prisoners understandably were. Interestingly the Court has dismissed challenges to whole life sentences which shows that very severe punishments are not prevented by the ECHR
Unless theyâre literally suggesting unpaid volunteers like magistrates performing the role in some sort of dystopian attempt to appeal to these voters by saying âyou could order people to be deported yourselfâ. But surely not?
Possibly a way of ramping up capacity on the cheap ie expect these people will be less well laid and more available than judges. Magistrates comparison seems unfortunate as, Iâm told, they often get the law wrong.
Itâs not the bringing over of family members that those voters have a problem with. Itâs with the very concept of asylum itself.
And there is nothing in the ECHR I donât think that prevents people who have done bad things from being punished except being tortured and executed.
The Jack Straw sounds a bit like a pub
The Times, editorially at least, has been going in an increasingly extreme direction for a while now.
There is no argument for staying in the ECHR that does not involve saying, âyes people who we donât like or have done bad things will occasionally benefit because those people also have rightsâ. I donât know how well that will go down.
To me the most interesting is the blaming of others for her less than stellar A level results when she presumably would preach taking personal responsibility
I wasnât expecting much but the ratcheting up (permanent denial of citizenship, making already tough deportation laws even tougher) has been extremely disappointing.
The licensing of barbers (barbers?) is deeply weird.
Of course they must know just how strict the legislative interpretation of A8 deportation exceptions already are but theyâd rather rather go along with the fiction that it allows serious criminals to stay in the country which it rarely does.
Of course they did relentlessly attack Corbyn on Gerry Adamâs/IRA but it never stuck. Maybe because that was decades ago whereas Putin and Russia was more of a present threat? But then again .9/11 and Talibanâs involvement in it is now almost a quarter of a century ago.
Families are weird (speaking from personal experience) but that would be a rather odd lie to tell
Words like âupdatingâ and âreformâ (not the party) are deliberately benign sounding when they mean reduce or dilute. See also âwelfare reformâ.
Also blaming others for her less than stellar A level result seems a bit hypocritical given that I suspect she wouldnât normally have much sympathy with those blaming others for their situation.
I always thought John Woodcock had a name that, well Iâm not surprised he became Lord Walney.
Richard (Dick) Bush?
Iâm assuming a poor fit in the sense of âBushâ meaning female pubic hair?
Or that sheâs making excuses, presumably not something that she gas truck with anybody else doing.
Mind you a predecessor (IDS) claimed to have attended the University of Perugia when he just did a language course there.
What was it that Mary Archer said about her husband? Something along the lines of an âinaccurate relationship with the prĂ©cisâ.
Youâd think so and Iâm certainly not defending it (itâs appalling) but I do think thereâs an element of wanting attention and owning the libs.
People are sharing Carswellâs racist tweet calling fir ethnic cleansing. You do realise heâs probably doing it to âown the libsâ so maybe best not to rise to it.
Heâs literally an immigrant
Iâve not but thanks for the tip!
As an aside, having had to revise the test for interim injunctions itâs been fascinating seeing a real-life example put it into practice
Thatâs why I wonder if he really thinks what heâs saying now.
I read the summary of the appeal and I must admit I thought reasons given were good ones esp. that less drastic mitigations could be used to address public order concerns or the risk of an injustice if the residents were wrongly forced to leave.
Indeed but hereâs another question. How much would you need to be paid to permanently leave your country (leaving aside the legal technicalities of Gaza not being a country)?
I was going to mention that too. Thereâs also an element of playing the man (or woman) and not the ball. They never seem to criticise the substance, ie why the judge got it wrong or what they disagree with.
Or âLawyers for Britainâ that seemed to be more âLawyers for Brexitâ
Of course as itâs frivolous itâs pointless expecting logic but canât see how you could report Bean LJ but not Eyre J. Almost like bias isnât really their concernâŠ
Former Tory MP calling for ethnic cleansing. Racism seems like too kind a description.
I still think heâs deliberately saying ever more extreme things to get noticed but imagine being that desperate for attention.
Ive said it before but this goes beyond anything Nick Griffin would have said in the 00âs.
Also he goes on to complain about US companies who choose to do business in the EU having to follow EU law. Seems like an odd definition of sovereignty.
I was thinking about how much civil service time was taken up by deciding which items should be included. Would love to know the thinking that led to birthday cards being included or considered inappropriate.
Trying to think how much civil servants time was taken up drawing up this list. And what exactlyâs wrong with buying a birthday card?
Several civil servants including senior ones will have worked on compiling that list, probably went through some iterations before being sent to ministers for sign off. Maybe the Taxpayers Alliance should make one of their FOI requests.
Youâre a 35 year old ICE officer. You may have another 50 years yet. Who knows what determinations there will be to do justice. Your superiors will throw you under a bus if it gels them but also we know the I was just doing what I was told doesnât necessarily work anyway.
Drill baby drill
The Tories are going to go anti-vax arenât they?
And for the first two to be correct, virtually the whole scientific establishment would have to be in on it (for what exactly?) and if you think that then youâre probably beyond help
That sounds like a denialism âliteâ. Itâs not denying the existence of manmade climate change per se.
How long until she goes anti-vax? Or insinuates it with saying that people have âlegitimate concernsâ.
maybe he should write a book about how much his home region sucks.
So many people who I thought were moderate seem to be going in that direction at the other place and one of the few voices of sanity on the right is *checks notes* Steve Baler
Pillock? Adopting the Britishisms I see.
His viagra isnât working? Sorry
Yes thatâs the irony isnât it, that Brexit was a fundamentally unconservative thing to do.
Letâs see if the continue to publish pieces by Douglas Carswell
Thank you for taking the time to respond. Thatâs very helpful.
Worth bearing in mind that judges are prevented from publicly defending themselves or answering back to public criticism.
Presumably if they âsidedâ with a part then they would have broken their oath to do justice without fear or favour.
Completely agree but can wondering what the process is for allocating judge(s) to a case is. Just that some of the more batshit suggestions have been that the government stitched it up by choosing a âfriendlyâ judge. Could they, even if they had wanted to?
I know he didnât name names but could that not count as workplace bullying?
Including a certain barrister who wrote about politics from a very a distinctively centre-right perspective but was impeccably socially liberal and a Remainer, got caught up in MeToo, and is now saying some what I would consider rather extreme stuff.
At the other place there are people who were definitely Remain backing socially liberal small-c Tories now saying rather hardline stuff about immigration such as they shouldnât have entered illegally (they couldnât have sought asylum otherwise) and that makes them more likely to be sex offenders.
âSided withâ. FFS
This isnât America, Sky News
Itâs like theyâve carbon copied the SCOTUS into our system despite the rather obvious differences most crucially in how theyâre appointed.
Today was going rather well for herâŠ
The winning the Scotland independence referendum made him feel invincible theory doesnât make chronological sense as he promised the referendum *before* the independence referendum.
Leave always had a decent chance of winning. Iâd even say that it was likely. Osborne certainly thought so and tried to dissuade Cameron. So, did he feel that he had no choice? Or that heâd never have to deliver the promise? Or that he hubristically thought he would win?
Itâs a tricky one. If I choose to give fifty quid to say the RSPB I kind of feel thatâs nobody elseâs business but if a gambling company is giving much larger amounts to think tanks that argue against tougher gambling laws that feels relevant.
On where UK Bluesky does have a blind spot, I havenât seen anything on here about the vandalism of Policy Exchangeâs office (see below). This kind of stuff should be called out and criticised and Iâm very happy to do so.
Changing my name for now as Iâm applying for jobs so need to keep a low online profile.
When did doing a search at the Land Registry become so expensive? Itâs ÂŁ7. Iâm sure it was only ÂŁ3 ten years ago.
Reminds me of when people would distinguish between âOld Commonwealthâ (Canada, Australia, NZ) and âNew Commonwealthâ (the rest).
IIRC Lowe was using spouses coming from countries such as Canada, USA, Australia as an example of what needed to be made easier đ€