Me personally I am trying to get people to see that Newsom is not a good candidate

good candidate for what? he isn't running for anything. we are so far from the 2026 election, let alone 2028... and on top of that for all the reasons you have articulated there is no way he is going to end up being the 2028 candidate

The only position Newsom deserves to be nominated for is one directly under a French hair cutting machine.

"isn't running for anything" how in the shit are you this obtuse

He is very clearly angling for the next election. You may be confident he won't be but Newsom clearly isn't.

There is seemingly a not insignificant number of people who disagree with you

hi Paul! Huge fan. Understood, I guess I'm asking you to give others some grace. If people are feeling hopeful and that is leading them to be overly eager and frankly annoying... there is going to be a whole primary process and that is if we even still have a democracy. Eye on the ball and all that

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I'm not allowed to think that gender segregated spaces should be done away with?

What? I’m not allowed to mask my evil beliefs behind the veneer of “legitimate concern” and act like it’s cool to support an openly evil politician because I’m stupid or evil and most likely a combination of both???? Have a heart!

WEIRD HOW IT ALWAYS HAPPENS, huh.

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See, that's not the takeaway here. The takeaway is that giving Newsom a higher profile actively harms trans rights based on his record, so you're not really an ally if you're supporting the man.

how could Newsom possibly have a higher profile? he is a billionaire governor of the 4th largest economy in the world who rubs shoulders with movie stars and politically powerful people constantly. everyone in this country knows who Newsom is and a lot of us would never vote for him in a primary

If everyone isnt equal none of us are equal. They just aren't coming for you yet

what does that even mean? who are you talking about? Newsom is one of several governors fighting back against the fascist take over of our country. I agree everyone needs to be protected and that is why I want to stop Trump.

Sorry I didn't realize you struggled reading comprehension. Luckily, I dont believe that makes you less deserving of equal rights.

He’s siding with the fascists about trans people and he treats homeless Californians like shit. He is not a hero

Is he "fighting back against the fascist take over", or is he "desperately seeking seeking to maintain/increase his power and wealth"?

I don't see how him picking a fight with Trump in social media and leading the charge in CA to counter-redistrict Texas makes him wealthier. As to his power - it is derived from the state of California as he is the governor and I desperately want all blue governors to maintain / increase their power

How is he fighting the fascists? By going on their podcasts?

You can only have this opinion by not being informed. Gavin Newsom has been cozying up to fascists all year and personally terrorizing homeless people with a big smile on his plastic face.

Where? He sent in his own forces to beat up protesters and journalists. He's ripping people's livelihood's apart with a smile on his face. He's goes on podcasts with the fucking fascists and agrees with them.

Where did you see that Newsome gave orders that protestors and journalists were to be beaten? You are conflating systemic inertia with governance. If the state of California declares that the Trump admin is acting tyrannically and takes up arms against the federal gov protestors still won't be

allowed to block major roads and disrupt cities. The LAPD is tasked with keeping order in the streets and they are doing that with the same callous disregard for people they encounter the way they always do. that isn't a reflection of Newsom being pro Trump that is the LAPD being assholes. Now as

to why the residents of LA haven't banded together and demanded that the LAPD be disbanded and replaced with a new, accountable, community focused and reinvented police force I can't say. Or at least a major overhaul like they did in Newark. Something to fix what is wrong in the LAPD

One thing I have realized- assholes are assholes regardless of ideology. This guy is just our version of them. More into it as a team sport or belief system* than as reality *He is one person being nice to him away from joining a cult

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Newsom doesn't believe in protecting everyone, he's a bigot

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this doesn't mean anything to me idk why you're responding with this to everyone

See above re lack of reading comprehension

It's so precious when these people use the word "ally" next to Newsom's name, like ally to whom?

he agrees with Newsom so it's not bigotry. his "everyone" is a limited group that isn't everyone

I support the governor of California rallying support for efforts to counter the redistricting going on in Texas. I don't think Newsom is remotely fit to be POTUS for various reasons including but not limited to his stans on Trans rights I'm focused on today while we still have the ability to fight

why do we always have to be the ones extending grace to bigots?

I don't think it's good when people are eager about a guy who is on camera throwing people's possessions in the garbage because the state he runs is better at that than providing housing. Or any of the ghoulish anti-trans stuff he's said. Eager about this guy? A sign that you are a bad person.

Sorry but in my experience this is a kicking the can down the road comment. When it comes time for the primary, the goalposts will be moved to “in any other year, we can vote for who we want but this year, we have to vote for (lesser evil).” Bigotry IS fascism. Newsom should be called out. NOW.

"Love your comedy! But why do you have to have a perspective?"

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ok so why aren't you uniting with trans people then?

I don't know what "uniting with trans people" means in this context. I personally don't support Newsom for POTUS if that helps? bsky.app/profile/kern...

the ppl saying they dont want Newsom to run are not the ones who started this. Literally it’s Newsom supporters* who have been flooding bluesky to tell us we should line up to support him go chastise those people. *or possibly paid bots

I'm responding to what I'm seeing 🤷

If you believe that you can't resist Trump, support trans rights, help the unsheltered, and not support an oily man with no real interest in anything but his own advancement, all at the same time, then you don't understand democracy, and probably find it hard to walk and chew gum at the same time.

I think it is WAY too early to be focusing on the 2028 election and we have far more immediate and existential concerns. I guess we can agree to disagree

If the opposition are already thinking about it then it is never too early.

The world's foremost experts in authoritarian rule and the history of nations believe that a free and fair 2028 election is very much in doubt. so until that is addressed I think it is safe to say it is too early 🤷

“Stop talking about this thing I don’t want to talk about! Now excuse me while I hop around this thread quote-posting myself telling everyone to stop talking about this.”

Quoting myself is just a way to save time retyping the same thing. Also has the nice bonus of pulling responses to a common post together into a single thread bsky.app/profile/kern...

Trans rights being erased is an immediate and existential concern.

What is immediate about the 2028 democratic primary?

Then Newsom should stop trying to edge ahead for the 2028 election

We need to shout down the neolibs who are boosting people like Newsom who is absolutely 1000% thinking about 2028 and is being wagged at us by corporate media so gatekeeping Dem primaries countrywide away from these ghouls is the energy right now.

Indeed, the oily snake man is proving the strongest defence against them stealing the 2026 election. That’s worth not shaming him back into the wine cellar just yet.

basically. I'll do whatever I can to make sure he isn't the Dem nominee in 2028 but that is a very different fight for a different day.

How the hell do you fight fascism by supporting a fascist?

And people who actually want to resist fascism instead of giving us fascism lite are telling you Gavin is a nonstarter

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A non-starter for what he unquestionably wants and is trying to set himself up for. I'm not sure why you don't seem to know this, but it makes you seem ill-informed at best and disingenuous at worst.

do you understand that Newsom's actions in pushing back against Trump are about halting the complete destruction of our constitutional order? this isn't some wild campaign ploy to build up the guy's image.

Any reason to justify bigotry is a shitty justification. It's not that hard to better yourself as a human being. Gavin. Ain't. It.

Right

An extremely normal perspective communicated in a straightforward way

"Let people be hopeful" about a very problematic politician says more about the "hopeful" people than the people opposing them.

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if ppl are feeling *hopeful* at the possibility of Newsom running for president on the dem ticket, then we’re thoroughly cooked.

no one said that. I don't know where you got that from. people are feeling hopeful that a dem governor is effectively pushing back against the efforts to engineer a 2027 GOP majority in congress

the thread was Paul discussing the possibility of Newsom running in 2028 since a lot of people are talking about it recently. So when you said people are feeling hopefully, naturally i read that as “hopeful he will run for president”. Next time try telling ppl when you’re changing the subject.

The thread was questioning why people would talk about Newsom since pritzker is rolling out the lgbtq+ hotline. To which I replied questioning the logic behind starting the 2028 cycle so early. People didn't chimed in to tell me that pro Newsom people were pushing his candidacy and it spiraled

Even in your retelling, the thread is still about people supporting Newsom for a 2028 run. At best, what you said was ambiguous.

Which I find absurd. Anyone who is talking about Newsom for 2028 should pull their head out of their ass

This is literally part of the primary process you dink

be quiet

Then maybe start by reciprocating by showing some grace towards Newsom’s critics? This cuts both ways right? Like it wouldn’t be cool for a hypothetical person to demand that people who criticize Newsom’s bigotry commit to voting for him in the general when the primary hasn’t begun, right?

I'm a Newsom critic. When I posted that I wasn't aware of the bot / astroturf campaign that apparently is swamping some people's accounts boosting Newsom. My concern is with the very idea of feeding into discussions of 2028 when we have an autogolpe happening in real time Cheers

So your “eye on the ball” is embracing far right violence against vulnerable groups for 3 years or so on the promise that someone could win the primary who didn’t do that. Great morals, that you have

Nope what I meant was focusing on the autogolpe that is going on right now. Cheers!

I see, so you’re too cowardly to own up to your beliefs as well

my beliefs are that Newsom is a prick and would make a terrible POTUS. I also believe that the way things are going we are unlikely to have valid elections in 2028 so I'd rather people focus on things happening right now since the second US civil war is on the cusp of starting

One example of a thing happening right now is the Democratic governor of the largest state in the country is openly courting fascists by throwing vulnerable people to the wolves, and he’s doing it to promote himself as a 2028 candidate

Ok and there were pro segregation Americans on the beaches of Normandy fighting the Nazis. Sometimes you are forced to find fellow cause with people you otherwise detest when times call for it. This is one of those times. 🤷

Why are marginalized people disposable?

I didn't claim they were. Newsom is terrible on trans rights and the unhoused. Pritzker has treated unhoused people the same and he is pro Israel which isn't a great look. None of these are perfect presidential candidates and I don't think continuing a premature conversation makes sense

‘cause suckers will all tell you to keep watching for the ball / But we know better than that / Keep your eye on the bat -Palehound

I don't think you are supposed to keep your eye on the bat when you are trying to hit a baseball. I'm pretty sure that isn't how that works. Granted I was never any good at baseball so maybe there is something clever in that turn of phrase.

Gavin Newsom's goddaughter is trans, he attended her wedding, and now he has the AUDACITY to pretend he doesn't understand the proven science behind trans people, and humans in general, in sports to gain points with bigots and fascists. He's garbage.

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No one’s even talking about an election

Good! Since you support Gavin Newsom and we all think he should eat shit and die, it's great news that you don't want to focus on 2028. Gives us a real leg up!

I think Newsom is prick and would be a terrible POTUS. so right back at you?

SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN DOING THEN?

I'm trying to get people to focus on the fact that our nation's capital is literally under military occupation and the GOP is working to engineer the outcome of the midterms. Newsom is so far the one leading the only pushback that is close to being effective and we all need to support that pushback

They are doing things & stuff. I'm sure it's useless to normal people, like us, who can admit wrongdoing and think critically. However, to adult-infants, like the above dimwit, they think they represent something pure that accepts all ideologies (including delusional bigotry & fascism.)

Gottim!!!

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Yeah, and fuck'em. There's so much going on right now. Anyone who's playing fantasy election right now is a joke. They're the kind of people who view politics as entertainment. They will not show up when it matters, so who cares? The National Guard occupied LA. Now they're in DC. Chicago's next.

I think you are saying what they’re saying— did you mean to say fuck *me*? It’s fine if you did, I just want to make sure you reached your intended target

I think you're responding to all of the posts about Newsom being a good (or bad) candidate, because it's become an unavoidable topic, especially from people pushing Newsom. Fuck the people (or bots) who won't shut up about it.

I guess by extension that could mean you a little bit - and me, I posted a couple long threads about it. I don't really think we're the problem, though. Idk if it's just weird libs or if there's astroturfing going on, but something's determined to make "should gavin be president" a big topic.

You've probably read enough from me, but this thread is what I'm trying to say.

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Okay. Fuck you then 🤷

Thank you for your service! Newsom is doing some good stuff right now, and I'll take it, but hell no, he shouldn't be the next president.

Out of curiosity, have you got thoughts on the governor race next year? Can I interest you in a Katie Porter?