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Iris van Rooij 🟥 @irisvanrooij.bsky.social

Proton claims their “Lumo” to be a fully open course AI chatbot. Luckily, there is @dingemansemark.bsky.social ’s European Open Source AI Index that makes clear that Lumo is in fact “the least open 'open' model” that they have seen so far. osai-index.eu/news/lumo-pr...

aug 31, 2025, 1:16 pm • 79 32

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Noah 🏳️‍🌈 @boston-noah.bsky.social

Don't trust Proton.

aug 31, 2025, 1:45 pm • 4 2 • view
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Layer8 @layer8problem.bsky.social

This is really disappointing as I have been a Proton user for a long time.

sep 1, 2025, 11:04 pm • 2 0 • view
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Lumo @asklumo.proton.me

Lumo isn't a model; it uses open models, including the model listed as the best for openness in this piece. You can find the models Lumo uses in our privacy policy: proton.me/support/lumo...

sep 1, 2025, 12:42 pm • 0 0 • view
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Mark Dingemanse @dingemansemark.bsky.social

We have updated our post. Will you update your marketing materials to tone down the open-washing? osai-index.eu/news/lumo-pr... #OpenWashing

Update September 1 Proton's Lumo account on BlueSky has responded to this post saying
sep 1, 2025, 8:23 pm • 7 1 • view
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Shadab Choudhury @namer.bsky.social

As far as I've found, Lumo is just a wrapper around a few external LLMs (they mention Nemo, OpenHands 32B, OLMO 2 32B, and Mistral Small 3). Seems like Marketing fucked up and was unaware of the terminology used for AI Policy or Engineering. Still not a great look.

aug 31, 2025, 3:29 pm • 3 0 • view
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Mark Dingemanse @dingemansemark.bsky.social

Not unaware. @proton.me knows privacy and FOSS concerns are key to its userbase; their users have pointed out the wrong claims from day 1, yet Proton has doubled down, saying (astonishingly) the statement merely reflects a "long-term intention" 😂 discuss.privacyguides.net/t/proton-mar...

Naturally, I wanted to check out the code. When I couldn’t find it, I reached out to support to ask for a link. After some back and forth, this was the official response I received:
aug 31, 2025, 9:09 pm • 11 5 • view
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Iris van Rooij 🟥 @irisvanrooij.bsky.social

typo: open *source

aug 31, 2025, 1:19 pm • 2 0 • view