You don't think israel has gone fascist? Where do you think your tax dollars and arsenal went in 2024? To defend what? Where we you when the Biden administration was helping to shut down campus protests to benefit Israel covering up atrocities and war crimes? Harris knew by May 2024 it was genocide

2>You all are implicitly asking fellow American voters -- even ones who don't live in swing states -- to give a pass to the murder of children -- actual murder of them -- and other non-combatants -- to protect your domestic choices. The answer -- rightly -- is no. bsky.app/profile/lees...

To be absolutely clear here, I'm saying how can we (America) help Gaza if we (America) is falling apart. With Harris the people had negotiating power, we could actually get through to our elected officials. Now we have two options, bend the knee to Trump or be silenced. How does that help Gaza?

I have thought from the beginning the inverse (and bear with me for a second): What's going in the US is the blowback not just from our very wrong imperialist thrust in the Middle East stretching back decades, but specifically the profound contradictions and corruptions born of the US promotion of>

2>Zionism. I want to be really careful to make it clear I am not talking about a conspiracy or Jewish influence -- please, I'm not an antisemite. But a really lethal alliance beween our military industrial complex and the near impossibility of securing a Jewish state that behave the way this>

3>one has over decades, has really suborned a lot of the American political process, to the point we are now faced with really damaging restrictions on speech and movement in this country to prevent criticsm of Israel from anybody. So I'm suggesting to look at it the other way around: If the US>

4>doesn't solve the problem of Gaza -- meaning doesn't end the Israeli occupation, recognize the fundamental shared and equal human rights of Palestinians, and their political rights to self-governance, Americans won't solve the problem of Trumpism, because Trumpism is precisely elevating state>

5> worship, elevating the "rights of state power" over any human right. In Trumpism, human rights are conditioned on the whim of the state. The mentality that sees the genocide of Palestinians as a backburner issue is degrading human rights and rule of law. Stop Gaza and you'll know how to fix US.

How would electing Kamala help Gaza? I really think you are highlighting the cognitive dissonance people have about many Democrats. Biden and Harris were in power and still sent money and arms to Israel despite the obvious war crimes of Netanyahu and the IDF. Marjorie Taylor Greene is better.

Never said Israel wasn't fascist, because they absolutely are. But please tell me how choosing Trump over Harris was the better option for Gaza. Because that's what you dumb motherfuckers did by voting third party just to be able to morally grand stand.

We didn't vote third party. We didn't vote. When you dismiss that as "moral grand-standing", you are revealing your bias against brown human beings. You seem to think Harris was "better" for Gaza than Trump and you have nothing to base that on. Biden/Harris were in power and allowed genocide.

And why not "moral grandstand" if you don't live in a swing state and your vote won't change who wins? Write in something pointed instead rubber stamping what's hurting others. Had every anti-genocide voter outside a swing state written in Anti Genocide, it would have been noticed.

I call it moral grandstanding because of the lack of foresight. At LEAST we as voters would've had a chance at convincing a Harris administration of supporting a two state solutions. We at LEAST could've voted in more progressive politicians to the house and Senate. But oops fascism.

Harris supporters made it absolutely Clear They will nevert ever change, and never ever listen to anything any liberal says. they'd tel any lie, kill any number of people, for eternal holy war. They are worse than israelis worse than Trump. And trump will be good for them; Hes a step up from them

You have got to be kidding. America descending fascism is the better option!?! How could starting another Genocide, but on American soil be the better option? Or has all actual rational thoughts just flown out the window?

hey can you teach me how to choose between the good genocide candidate and the bad genocide candidate? treat me like I’m really dumb too

It was there already. and its a better option cause it makes the extortionist pay more. The two sides are people who compromise to deliberately kill the largest number of innocent people, and people who don't

WHY MUST YOU INSIST WE PICK THE GENOCIDE CANDIDATE??? The answer is clear: You need to stop supporting Zionist candidates.

Well not picking anyone got us a fascist wanna be dictator. Or do you honestly think this was the better option? I see not a one of you has actually answered how Trump is going to save the people in Gaza.

both parties ran on compromise to deliberately kill the largest number of innocent people in the conflict, so we can't change that. But we can refuse to give our permission. ANd refusing to give our permission made it cost More, cause it lets the people that they sold us out to decide.

So how does this help anyone? Do you have any specifics on how this will help Gaza? Or does it just make you feel better?

Nobody is saying Trump will save the people in Gaza. You are claiming Harris would when she clearly did not, would not, and has not still.

Then why did you help get him elected? I never claimed Harris would, I claimed we would have had a chance of electing people that care with Harris. Now we have absolutely no chance.

What chance? This is where you go wrong. Harris is an AIPAC Zionist whore. Periodt. We did vote for progressive politicians. We did not vote for Zionists. STOP TELLING PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR ZIONISTS TO END GENOCIDE, IDIOT.

So you really think that between Trump and Harris that Trump is the more reasonable one and the better option for Gaza? You folks also seem to be completely ok with Trump tearing families apart with these insane ICE raids. It really boggles the mind.

when democrats stopped listening to us it became hard to believe that they would ever change their mind. but if you had faith then you are just oin the wrong side of a holy war., And you knoiw its the wrong side sand anyone who would kill the innoicent trans, refiugees and arabs would kill us too

Yet Trump, who is doing this, is the better option? That is insane.

anyone who would kill the hamas would kill me too. So better for them is not better for me.

What is the difference between ethnic cleansing in LA and ethnic cleansing in Gaza? What is the difference between blowing off the actual limbs of families in Gaza with US weapons and tearing apart families in the US with US weapons? Are you just America First? I'm for universal human rights.

Exactly, how is Trump the better option here? Cause if things continue with this idiot, we'll be lucky if we get to vote again. So again how is that the better fucking option?

Do you know that literally the bodies of tens of thousands more human beings were blown apart under direction of the Biden White House than since Trump has been elected? If things continued with those idiots -- who never got even a ceasefire -- well, tell me: What's your fantasy?

You sort of leave the impression you didn't have a problem with Biden's Gaza policy, that the deaths of all those people was either bacground noise for you in 2024 or you had no real reservations about it or that even you actually supported it. Any of those describe you?

Gotcha, so Trump is the option you wanted. So how will fascism help the Gaza stripe? How specifically will Trump help the Gaza stripe?

Moral AND political rot. How did you vote in the Democratic Party primary in 2024?

Boggles my mind Harris knew a genocide was getting direct WH assistance in 2024 and did nothing about it then, nothing the day after she lost, nothing while still in office and nothing until this day. She's moral rot. It's the same policy. Genocide. What's your idea of a "better" genocide?

Who said "better genocide"? Nobody. I just don't understand how it could be fucking possible that what Trump is doing right now is the better option for Ukraine, Gaza or America. But no one ever actually answered that question, because this isn't an actual rational conversation.

You don't have a politics to confront Trumpism if you are not for universal human rights and support international rule of law. Do you think Harris would have enforced the ICC warrants against Netanyahu? Would you want her to? Do you find that "irrantional"? Did you vote in the 2024 primary?

So no actual answer on how Trump was the better choice for Gaza, Ukraine and America? Yeah dude, I think if we still had whatever semblance of the rule of law we had better Trump would have made it easier to put people that actually care about Gaza and Ukraine into power. What hope is there now?

Your question is irrational. If we said killing all of your relatives and community members was okay because it is better for Ukraine, you'd realize how stupid your comments are.