If they really cared about learning the truth they would’ve asked why Epstein visited the White House 17 times while Clinton was president always bringing a different young girl. They don’t want to know the details. It’s all performative. It’s so annoying
Prove your claim, troll
Are you kidding me? It’s well known Epstein visited the White House. Call someone else names. I’m not lying. Y’all just love to defend Clinton. 🙄
Yes, Epstein visited the White House. Visitor logs show it. Where did you get the info about "bringing young girls" with him, when the logs don't seem to show him visiting with guests...? I doubt GAF about Clinton, but I, personally, do like evidence. www.nationalreview.com/news/jeffrey...
Nothing in the article says he wasn’t with girls. Request the visitor logs from the Clinton Library. You’ll see I’m not lying. You’re missing the point. Epstein wasn’t the head of the snake. It’s bigger than just raping teens. They were used for blackmail. Look into BCCI..they’re all connected
No, sorry - when the topic is Epstein, Clinton and young girls, if the visitor logs showed young girls, I'm pretty sure at least one article, somewhere, would state it. So, you have access to the Clinton Library records of the WH visitor logs? If not, where did you get your info from?
Really?!? You really think raping kids was his primary focus? It’s bigger than that & goes back decades. The only reason he was arrested was due to the Mueller report. Like I said..look into BCCI & then make your way over to Les Wexner..then look into Iran Contra. They’re all connected.
I don't disagree with you on some of those points, but you have made a claim that you are not backing up; you just keep asking, incredulously, "You think it's only about raping kids?!?" That's not an answer to anything I've asked.
You’re having a hissy fit with my statement that Epstein brought different girls to the White House. If you wanted to know the truth about how deep this goes you wouldn’t be having a hissy fit. Teens were merely props he could use because he was a pervert. They’re connected..Iran Contra, BCCI etc
You need to have a kid & learn what a hissy fit is really like. If you're sure of the fact you stated, why won't you just share a link to an article that backs up your claim, or even just tell me where you learned/heard it? I'm for truth. Asking for evidence to determine the truth in your claim.
Whitney Webb has a two part book. It started as a book on Epstein but you can’t talk about Epstein unless you talk about how he came to be & who he worked for. Why do I trust her? What I personally knew before, she wrote about. It didn’t start or end with Jeffrey Epstein. He was just the pervert.
You made the very serious allegation that he brought young girls (a sick allegation, demeaning true Epstein victims). I researched this issue, since you raised it, and there were no logs of him being accompanied by young girls. So put up or STFU and don’t demean actual Epstein victims! SMH
🙄 Ok..I’m sure. Did you also see how he brought young girls to England in order to convince a couple Senators to vote for something he wanted? I’m sure you did since you’re so concerned about his victims 🙄 Spare me. I’m not wrong. You’re choosing to believe the Clintons & that’s freakin hilarious
You’re a lying hack who got caught being a lying hack and now you change the subject to something else - troll behavior 101. You’re pathetic and demean the actual Epstein victims. You’re as bad as Trump and the GOP. Gross!
WTF are you even talking about? I’ve been very consistent and no matter what names you call me it’s not going to change the facts. Your denial of it is disrespecting the victims. I’m not. I know the story which is why I’ve always said I hope I’m dead before the files come out. Seriously..y’all
Then show us the WH visitor logs that you claim prove that Epstein took, so far nameless, young girls into the Clinton WH. It’s very, very simple. Share them or quite pushing disinformation. Your head won’t hurt if you either admit you made shit up to smear WJC/help DJT or just were wrong. Waiting 🧐
dude I don’t need to give you squat. Like I said, Whitney Webb has a two part book that explains the back story. Why do I trust her, because what I personally do know she accurately describes. Call me names. Bitch & moan. I don’t give a rats ass. It’s bigger than just Epstein raping kids.
You are a lying sack of 💩 who has no receipts for the lies you tell. I'll be blocking you.
Dude that’s your business. I’m not lying. Call me whatever names you want. It’s not going to change the facts. You’re just choosing to believe in a fantasy of who they are even though if you paid attention you wouldn’t be so quick to defend them. Block me. Ok. I’m not lying. What I say is true.
If you are not lying, then you are just wrong. And too stupid to know it.
You say it's true, but neither you nor anyone else can find a single receipt. So you just pulled it out of your... You are disgusting.
Interesting that you mention BCCI. My ex sis-in-law was adamant that she knew something about the BCCI scandal. She was South Asian (Indian) & an excellent student, etc. but we all thought she was schizophrenic. There were some odd incidents & “stays” & meds…. I wonder if she was right.
And I wonder how many others were dismissed as “nuts” when they tried to alert us. Isn’t the Isle of Man a huge haven?
I know that’s well known. He was a large donor to the campaign and met with financial folks even when President Clinton wasn’t at the WH. You made up the part about being young girls along. That’s just flat out sicko exploitation of females on your part to make a point.
No I didn’t. Do better research Your defense of the Clintons merely highlights you don’t know jack shit about anything.
Maybe you don’t get the real news. The Dems made a sitting senator resign over an old photo made prior to his election. The Dems didn’t beg for law fees when another senator was indicted for influence peddling. How many pedos has Trump pardoned?
I’m not sure what you’re even talking about. Raping teen girls was a side gig. Epstein wasn’t the head of the snake. He was good a money laundering, human trafficking, & blackmail. Teen girls were used & discarded because he knew he could. Look into BCCI. It’s all connected.
If Bill Clinton was involved in this, then he needs to be held accountable.
None of these wealthy powerful men will ever be held accountable. My hope is the exposure will stop the behavior of manipulating vulnerable teen girls. It’s much bigger than Epstein raping teens..he used it for blackmailing people. Look into BCCI, Iran Contra, & Les Wexner. They’re all connected.
Agree
Where and how did you learn this? Was Epstein on the White House visitors list? BTW after the Access Hollywood tape, millions voted for a pervert who bragged about grabbing women by the …… I hope you were not one who overlooked Trump’s tainted past.
I did vote for Trump in 2016. I felt safer with an asshole rapist than I was with a woman who viciously attacked victims of her husband. Hillary was cool as long as her husband didn’t think you were hot. Then the women were to blame. It’s bigger than just raping kids. That was a perk Epstein used
You were pretty stupid, weren’t ya.
You should change your handle to Antifa Trumpetta.
Ok whatever..I felt safer with an asshole because I knew what to expect. I’ve been dealing with assholes my whole life. I don’t trust Hillary after what we all saw her do to victims of her husband. Everyone knew what kind of guy Bill was in Arkansas even Hillary. He could’ve been stopped sooner.
Stop saying repeatedly that you’re stupid. We get it. You’re a dumbazz. Anyone voting for the orange piece of shit is blubbering moron.
Calm down Trumpetta, you're as transparent as air.
But keep calling me names..it says more about you than me. Think about sparky..why would I say that if it wasn’t true? For attention..please. I don’t need any attention. I just want wealthy powerful men to know they can’t fuck with innocent kids anymore.
It’s always funny. Democrats are all high & mighty until someone tells them something they don’t like & then you’re no different than MAGA Are you going to call me dumb next? 🙄. I’m not lying. You’re delusional if you think the Clinton’s are clean. Epstein said he would ruin BOTH candidates in 2016
Yes, of course. You are as dumb as a fence post.
You're hallucinating things I never claimed or posted, and calling me delusional. I told you to calm down Trumpetta. What's the matter honey, short-term memory loss? Interesting you are othering Democrats, as an "Antifa" poser you're doing a terrible job.
🙄 The handle is a dig at my MAGA dad. I’m not your honey. I don’t have people in my life who think they’re holier than thou. You’re choosing to believe in a fairytale that the Clinton’s are innocent & pure. It’s the same delusion MAGA has towards Trump. I stand by what I said. It’s not a lie.
I never said jack shit about the Clintons you wierdo.
You tell me I don’t have a memory 🙄 Again..call me names. Block me. It’s cool. I’m not lying. Epstein wasn’t the head of the snake. He was arrested because after the Mueller report they had to do something. I’m not lying. Y’all just can’t handle the truth
So... better the rapist you know for sure is a rapist than the wife of a rapist who might, idk, defend her rapist husband? what incredible civic duty acumen I hate the shit out of the clintons but boy fucking howdy is that some dumbass algebra
Sorry to tell you, but I am not the only woman who felt this way. Women, particularly cute women..have been blamed for men misbehaving my whole life. At least with Trump, I knew what I was getting. Y'all should be mad at the DNC..Hillary wasn't for all women just the ones Bill didn't find hot.
oof, even hiding behind the cloak of anonymity it’s kind of shocking you’re not too embarrassed about that choice to admit it publicly. you definitely should be.
🙄 I don’t lie. I felt safer with a man who I knew what to expect than a woman who would fuck my life up if her husband thought I was hot. Why that’s difficult for y’all to understand is beyond me. Maybe you should be mad at the DNC for forcing her onto everyone. She didn’t represent all women
and to be clear the DNC has failed everyone except the party elders and the donor class. fuck the DNC and what they’ve done to destroy liberalism, contribute to the wealth divide and to the ascension of christian nationalism among republicans.
100% We lied to decades of kids, primarily if you're raised in a church. I was lied to, plus I had decades of trauma. It changed my brain. When I realized my reality was wrong, I went on a journey to find out why. I did. I changed my brain chemistry & rewired my brain. I'm grateful every day.
Indoctrination is a bastard and is absolute child abuse.
here. here.
i grew up seventh day adventist in nebraska. i super feel you on the years of rewiring trauma. my experience was that few ever consider trying to break free, much less succeed in doing so. what inspired your leap out of faith? if not too personal.
Animals & kids love me. I realized if I was inherently bad, they wouldn't. When you're raised to believe in god's plan & shit happens to you..you think he knows & you must have done something wrong. When a man "chosen" to spread his word violates your trust. It really fucks you up. I tried for
there it’s truly a special place in hell for clergy who hurt children. I’ve only very recently rediscovered spirituality and have fully come to believe that Christian nationalists and their ilk are wolves in sheep’s clothing, evil masquerading as angels. i’m so sorry.
DUDE!! this is fucking wild!! it is uncanny how that’s universally true for me. i taught early in my career and thought it was my height and big features (kind of my own caricature) but after decades of the same response from every animal and child i’ve ever met, figured it must not be just that.
What I learned is once the brain is wired a certain way (happens as a young child), it takes immense effort to rewire it & if your brain chemistry is off..you can wish it, pray it, whatever you won't be successful. I knew I was making bad choices, I couldn't stop & didn't know why. It was life
years to continue in the church and every time I was let down and violated. Like I said with voting for Trump..I know him. I have been around guys like him my whole life..well until now, the only asshole in my life now is my dad. I would've voted for Bill before I voted for Hillary. DNC screwed up
The DNC, the leadership, party elite can fuck off. I have never seen so many feckless leaders. I started a spreadsheet of those who need to investigated. I couldn't keep up. I was mentally ill for decades. I didn't know why. It's why I believe we're experiencing a severe mental health crisis now
because it is a very republican mentality, voting only for how a candidate may impact you without regard to their impact on other vulnerable and marginalized people, democracy, the rule of law, climate change, the global south, health care… i can name 1000 other reasons why i can’t square it.
I was raised GOP, I witnessed Reagan's '80 rise. My capstone research confirmed 90% of behavior sits in the subconscious. After rewiring decades of trauma-induced conditioning, I'll never vote GOP again. GOP voters often can't articulate why; it's rooted in self-interest, not policy It's all I got
that wasn’t quite the full throated apology you deserved. let me take another stab—i’m sorry for shitty jab i took at you that began this back and forth. i appreciate your both your candor and willingness to take the high road and engage meaningfully with me even still.
I learned how the brain worked & stopped lying. I am an open book. I'm mortified by my past behavior (like Nancy Mace..it was cringeworthy 😬). Trauma changes the brain. I'm lucky. I figured out what meds I needed & actively worked to rewire my brain. Thank you. I appreciate the apology.
that’s truly incredible. given the choice between having to rewire childhood trauma & heal addiction or scale mt everest to be able to live life well, i would choose everest 100/100. the other shit is hard!! i’m super thankful for you sharing that. i really needed a dose of inspiration today.
My linktree is on my profile. All my research is there. I posted everything just in case I were to die before I could share what I've learned. Survivors of trauma have more physical ailments as we age..and I know who the enemy is. They've murdered before & they'll do it again. Once I got my
i respect that and appreciate both the level and degree of introspection and courage i’m sure it took to get to the place you are as well as your honesty and authentic engagement with me even though i opened with a shitty comment to you. very not republican! seriously, thank you.
I appreciate healthy discussion. When I realized my perception of reality was off, it changed my life. I was a horrible person for decades (I had a lot of fun 😈). I never knew why. I was more like RFK Jr or Trump (like most GOP). Know it all assholes. I'm grateful every day to still be alive
Trauma changes the brain. I sought high-risk behavior just to release dopamine. I tried to get help. I was labeled, heavily medicated, & the bad behavior continued. I was 49 before I realized I wasn't born bad thanks to the church. It's why I believe religion is child abuse now.
jesus, i feel like we’ve walked similar paths. i’m 47 and still working to break completely free of my 25 year dance with dopamine. it’s a fucking monster.
This is news to me. What's the source on this? I'm a lifelong progressive Dem, but I'm also a lifelong intuitive, and I couldn't bring myself either time to vote for Clinton. I just sat out those eight years.
My source is from the 90s when I first heard abt Epstein. Whitney Webb details in two books how Epstein came to be. Spooky Connections helps to make the connections If you want the visitor logs you need to request them from the Clinton library. I can tell you Epstein always traveled with old girls
Thanks! I read further down in the thread and will look for Webb's books in the California library system. Spooky Connections is unfamiliar to me, but fact-checking is an integral aspect of my work as a technical medical editor, and I'm intrigued.
The most devastating part for me was our intelligence agencies. Yes, the sexual assaults were horrific, but in America, I've been accustomed to powerful men doing whatever they want since I was 8. Daughters have never mattered..but took Mueller to finally stop his law breaking. It wasn't until
after his arrest that four banks reported suspicious activity by him totalling over a billion dollars. Truly..it's been the hardest part to learn our intelligence agencies are nothing like they are on tv. It's very sad to me. I'm not losing hope that we will be successful in winning this war. 🤞🤞🤞
If this is true, then lock him up. We're not a cult.
