Lmfao no wonder you get bashed.... you're kinda delulu 💀🤡 and feminism isn't about bashing men.... my god you must be maga.. which would explain so much. They can't take accountability for anything and they are literally the party of deflection.. 🤦♀️
I am delusional yet feminists created stuff like Duluth Model. And no leftists I am not maga, but like the child I responded you your just another typical leftist who thinks anyone who disagrees must be pro Trump. And men take more accountability than women ever will.
Lmfao yeah ok buddy. You sound exactly like a maga, for someone who says they aren't maga. And I'm not a leftist. i just have brains and know how to fact check and do my own research. Real feminism is NOT what you are trying to describe. That would be extremists, which real feminists, are against.
Equality & equity literally hurts no one. This fallacy that feminism hurts men is just a poorly designed trope to ensnare insecure men in a doom loop where they’re somehow the victim. When women rise, we all rise up. It’s really not that complicated. Treat all women as you’d treat your own mother
The only fallacy here is feminism doesn't hurt anyone when its a movement of misandry and has nothing to do with equality. But maybe one day they pick you for putting women and that feminism on a pedestal as obviously both are perfect.
Sorry to hear you were hurt by a woman but it’s no reason to think that women aren’t entitled to same rights as men.You shouldn’t let your past experiences w/some to slander what has been a generally positive movement.If you expect perfection from feminism/women, do you hold urself to that standard?
Point where I expect perfection from feminism. And in various ways women have more rights than men. And I really do suggest you read up on the history of feminism if you think its been all roses for it. As you clearly not well informed about feminism.
So Duluth Model, Title IX, etc totally didn't hurt boys and that men. Nor framing rape as something men do not women as well (feminists don't think women rape let alone rape men). And of course when women do better everyone else does and yet men are falling further behind.
Painting w/a broad brush here. U sound like an incel &proponent of the MGTOW movement which at its core is a group who need someone to blame for their own inadequacies & failures in life. Take ownership instead of seeking to be seen as the victim. Prob 4 u is what u see in the mirror not feminists
Btw I never played the victim, I just called out feminists bull. And of course this upsets you. But keep putting women on pedestals and think women are good and men are bad.
And you sound like a typical feminist, which is really just being a misandrist. And that you like other feminists deflect blame onto others instead of taking any sort of accountability. But you feminists really should stop talking about accountability when you never take any.
Seems like a lot of projection coming from you. I don’t even consider myself a feminist. I’m a humanist. Equality for all. Your insecurities shouldn’t trample on the rights of others. I see why ppl think you’re maga I don’t but I think see why they do. U have a chauvinist world view.srynsry
And this is where I ask you point out my misogyny. As none of you can't. You like others can't handle me being critical of women.
Your misogyny comes out in your belief that bc women have the audacity to desire equal social economic & political rights & freedoms it hurts men. Judging all by acts of the fringe of the movement is a method of those in position of power to maintain power. It’s women who are losing rights not men
No one’s coming after viagra. No one’s attacking men’s right to vote. Misogyny takes many forms my friend. Historically who has most often driven societal ills such as wars & discrimination? Men & it’s not even close
Hey! See some men do understand and get it! 💜
Yes some men do get how perfect and wonderful women and feminism is. Clearly neither one has ever done anything wrong.
I do suggest you actually read up on feminism and its history if you so call claim to have brains and do your fact checking: www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc...
Coin, but on two opposite sides for the most part.
How? As they aren't even equal here.
What was that stuff about women and feminism is wonderful and perfect? None of us said anything of the sort. Nobody is perfect, and no movement or group is perfect. For example, I have to remind myself sometimes that not all Republicans are MAGA, but all of MAGA are Republicans. They are the same
...its often not seen as being misogyny. It doesn't matter what he says it be seen as such. And by the way my whole "women are wonderful and perfect" is a reference to funny enough a feminist study on "women are wonderful effect". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-a...
Then maybe feminists and that women should stop acting as if they are perfect. As they are the ones going women good men bad. And I don't see any feminist or really women holding women accountable for anything or calling out women for their behaviors. What I do see is if men call out women...
Part of the problem. And 3) thinking that men can't be feminists because they benefit from the patriarchy. Extremists often want revenge or exclusion.
Even your average non extremist feminist want those things. It might not be to the same extent of the extremists, but they do want least some revenge against men.
Okay, whatever you say, dude. I gave you the literal facts. But here you are going off feelings. 🤣🤣🤣
Talk about projecting.
A misrepresentation or a fringe interpretation of what feminism actually is. Examples include:1) thinking men shouldn't be allowed in leadership positions and should let women take over because they had their turn. 2)thinking traditional masculinity is toxic and men who stick to that are, by default
Nothing about feminism is being misrepresented here. And feminists do think masculinity is toxic, as if you look you don't see any form of positive masculinity existing within feminism. And feminists spend more effort in trying to destroy masculinity but protecting femininity.
On systems like patriarchy. They may promote superiority of women over men, rather than equality. They can be intolerant of differing perspectives, like rejecting intersectional or liberal feminism. They conflate the critique of gender roles with rejection and/or blame all men. Extremism is either
Patriarchy doesn't exist. Power doesn't reside in gender itself but in social economic class first. Because if patrachy existed I being a guy would have more power than say Kalama Harris. Yet she holds more power than I do. And its because she has more money than I.
Practices. 2) letting people express themselves, such as a woman being a CEO or a man being a SAHP. And 3)believing men can and should be allies. Feminism wants fairness, while extremists often want revenge or exclusion. Extremists see men as oppressive or problematic, instead of focusing on
...The point I am getting at here is feminists frame rape as something men do to women. And this is just another example of feminists blaming men. As you be hard press to find a feminist saying women rape as well.
... as some sort of boogieman (and no patriarchy doesn't exist). But in reality all that happens is men are getting the blame. While women get to be the victims. Case in point and even ask yourself this, when someone asks who are the rapists what is your answer?....
No feminist wants actual fairness, this is even removing the extremists. What feminists want is to have women more equal than men, and to drag down men all while blaming men for everything. Notice how feminists don't hold women accountable for anything? But then bring up patriarchy...
Of the radicals, but trying to say they are all welcomed with open arms is wrong. Feminists want everyone to have equality, and be able to have the same rights and opportunities as men. Some examples: 1)believing everyone should be the same as men for the samr work, as well as fair promotion
...were lagging behind men in education. But now women are on top feminists tell men they should do better, that men are just being lazy for not getting a college degree, etc etc. Essentially feminists are blaming men for their own issues. Even though its women who are hurting men.
Equality to feminists is women being more equal than men. No feminist wants equal opportunity, but want outcomes that favor women. See the whole college education gap going on today. No feminist sees that an issue when its women on top. But feminists screamed it was a huge issue when women...
First, I never said anything about the Duluth Model or the women you mentioned. You did. I was specifically referring to extremists. Thank you, though for bringing them up, it gave me new stuff to learn about. I'm always up for learning new things. Second, some feminists might align more with some
And you clearly didn't get the point. You claimed I was talking about so called feminist extremists. As you painted all other feminists as being sane and reasonable. My whole point is that I wasn't even talking about the extreme feminists but the everyday ones.
Btw no feminist is against extremists seeing you feminists welcome them with open arms, but again there's no actual difference between extreme feminists and a non extremist feminist. Oh I do my homework as well so I actually know what I am talking about.
So "extremists" created Duluth Model and Gloria Steinem and bell hooks are also extremists? And no I am not maga not even close. And if you think I am then you are just another typical leftists who thinks anyone who disagrees with them must be for MAGA.