Hello Mr. Strawman. Who the hell on the left is actually complaining more about Democrats than Republicans? Are you changing your position to allowing complaining about Democrats as long as you complain about Republicans more?

Changing his position would require him to have a coherent position to start with.

I'm honestly wondering why he votes Democrat. Because the degree of party loyalty tells me he would vote Democrat regardless of their policies or how nonexistent their resistance of Republican actions.

If you're really curious it's because Democrats halved the uninsured rate, opened up COVID vaccine patents, allowed Medicare prescription bargaining rights, capped insulin payouts, invested $400 billion in renewable energy, and forgave over $180 billion in student loan debt, among many other things.

So would you support Democrats if they stopping supporting these things? Say they stopped supporting the ACA and didn't push back against vaccine skepticism?

They already did these things, I vote for them because I want more of those things.

So they can start opposing the things they did before that you liked and you'll continue to support them. They can vote to repeal the ACA with Republicans, but you'll vote for them because they passed it once.

Every Democrat voted against Trump's Medicaid cuts, that's another reason I vote for Democrats.

When another party does better, I'll vote for them instead.

My position is (still) that being mean to Democrats doesn't help the Democrats, and that if being mean to Democrats did help the Democrats, Republicans wouldn't be doing it.

And my position is that there is a substantive difference between "being mean" to a party you want to influence and "being mean" to a party you want to destroy.

Yep, Republicans are mean to Democrats to scare them and amp up their base. Democrats are mean to Democrats to tell them what their own base will accept from them

I don't think the motivation makes a difference.

What about the content? You really think MAGAts and leftists are saying the same things about Democrats?

What is killing me about Jeffries right now is his inability to recognize the lightning in a bottle that Mamdani has caught. My ideal Dem leadership would be saying "Hell yes, more of this please!" And looking to encourage younger talent that resonates the same way in different parts of the country

He knows. It's active fighting against him, not ignorance or inability. He knows he can't endorse a left candidate without AIPAC and the rest of the party donor class becoming enraged.

Jeffries looks complicit

The entire Republican party IS complicit.

Which is why it is so frustration when some Dems try to meet them halfway! So, politics is compromise and Dems are out of power, so perhaps they can get them to soften their terrible policies to be slightly less terrible. That is a real good! But, I think it costs them at elections...

Because voters hear from them 'The GOP is horrible' but what they see is elected democrats working with the horrible GOP. Voters understandably are at best puzzled by this. So maybe it is better, electorally, that they go complete opposition even if it means no softening of GOP policies.

That softening really doesn't even work anyway. How many times have Democrats tried to work with Republicans and been stabbed in the back? Charlie Brown and the football. Every. Single. Time.

Here's a great read on this very point. Balko is one of my faves... www.theunpopulist.net/p/liberals-c...

Yes indeed, and were it not for the char limit I'd have brought up specifics, especially around the budget. The next big gut check for Dems is going to be over supporting a GOP budget or not. I'm with Warren in that any budget they agree to isn't worth the paper so Dems need to reject it all

They chose to support some Trump nominees to win them over in opposing the worst ones like Hegseth. Republicans still pushed every single one through, and we get to see things like Rubio promote fascism after he was confirmed by every single Democratic senator