Quit calling someone who wants reasonable guidelines “transphobic”. You are insulting the voters. And are part of the problem.
Quit calling someone who wants reasonable guidelines “transphobic”. You are insulting the voters. And are part of the problem.
Idk maybe the voters deserve to be insulted rather than coddled for having the dumbest, softest positions imaginable. Anyway, if you’re content with other people being marginalized, then no democracy for you. And no democracy for them. Y’all are gonna learn about solidarity or die under a dictator
Reasonable guidelines already exist.
Real question: who do you find more sympathetic, trans people or republicans?
I will defend any trans persons right to love, marry, serve our country, have any job, use whatever bathroom they choose. I want some restrictions on childhood treatment (multiple doctors etc…) and participation in sports involving minors. That is a majority consensus amongst the electorate.
You, specifically, need to figure out why you want those things because “the majority wants them that way” is antithetical to civil rights progress.
Maybe you should find out if sports participation is an issue (it isn’t) or decide if you really wanna go to bat for making already hard-to-access healthcare *even harder* for a vulnerable population (you shouldn’t).
Maybe you should read the Pew research🤷♂️
Maybe you should pew pew research yourself.
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No, i mean it.
🤣 I’m sure they will have a morally pure wing in the concentration camp for people like you. But hey, you’re “right”
No. Im left.
My guy, I’m not trying to determine if people *think* it’s an issue - I’m trying to get you to admit that it *isn’t* one. Pew can’t poll that because they’re just asking people, not providing functional data! Stop using the opinions of other people to guide you morally.
Would you have stood behind opinion polling on civil rights in the 50s? Or miscegenation?
Was that opinion polling the difference between fascism and a functional democracy?
You're not choosing to defeat fascism by throwing the fascists' target of choice into the woodchipper.
No I refuse to let a nuanced argument over 1% of the population become a purity standard for those trying to defeat fascism.
There's already nuance. You're regurgitating talking points that don't line up with reality.
What you are doing is justifying the immiseration of the oppresed
Holy shit dude
You need to realize anything counter to that narrative just elected a fucking fascist. How’d that work out for you? How’s did your position that the voters are wrong work out for you?
You aren’t engaging with the question and I assume it’s because it’s easier to pawn off the decision-making to an imagined mob. Look at literally any *actually popular* candidate or official right now and realize their stance on trans rights is not “we don’t need them”.
You can’t fathom the possibility that this dork got elected because the Harris campaign stopped doing the things we liked seeing and instead rally behind the idea that they somehow weren’t in line enough with the Republican Party line on some issues. Why would that ever work? Think, just once!
Are “the voters” always right about everything?
I want you to go out in the woods and pet a bear cub
So you want to make medical care harder to access for trans people? That makes you a transphobe
That’s not an answer to my question
Why do you want those things?
Look here at the comments on our conversation. The self righteous fuck off positions are how we got here. I appreciate your engagement. It’s been intellectually consistent.
So you only got to your positions on trans people out of spite/annoyance?
I understand my position as a voter is to create a political reality that doesn’t result in a fascist takeover. As I’ve said, and the reason we are all here is because the the far left of our party has put Reasonably moderate Dems on the sidelines.
You're not moderate, you're right wing
No, your job as voter is to vote for the candidate you support. And what do you mean “moderates have been edged out”? Where?
What things?
Why do you want your “reasonable guidelines? I don’t think you spontaneously came up with them
Why do you think the voters are right on trans people?
What do you mean by “reasonable guidelines”? And why would I respect American voters lmao? They voted in Donald Trump twice!
The guidelines aren't reasonable, subhuman. Stop lying to protect morons who base their views on gender on lies fed to them by white supremacist pedophiles.