“Clicking this button labeled “I won’t kill you” may kill you, you accept responsibility if it kills you” isn’t a great look though. That is, this is about Tesla pushing liability onto individuals. And that feels pretty gross.
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you can disengage autopilot/fsd at any time just by tapping the break or turnign the steering wheel. i think if you let your car get into a situation that kills you that's kind of on you to some extent. the problem imo is that most humans don't know how to drive safely.
aug 23, 2025, 5:05 pm • 1 0 • view
I am always feeling the tension between personal responsibility and “we should t allow dangerous products to be sold”, I think for me the issue with FSD is that it gets other people killed, not just you
aug 23, 2025, 5:07 pm • 4 0 • view
i don't accept this framing the same way i don't for other tech. if a person has the power to prevent a dangerous situation and choses not to, that's still the person's fault. ignorance of their own responsibility isn't an excuse, and its dubious to limit others responsible use of tech based on that
aug 23, 2025, 5:12 pm • 1 0 • view
I’m not sure I believe FSD in its current incarnation can be used responsibly
aug 23, 2025, 5:15 pm • 3 0 • view
well i've never had a single issue using it, even when it sucked 6 years ago, so, idk, skill issue.
aug 23, 2025, 5:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Note that I take Waymos many times per week! This isn’t blank hatred against self driving cars: it’s about Tesla’s implementation specifically
aug 23, 2025, 5:15 pm • 3 0 • view
How is that experience? Not something I have access to. Do you feel at ease in a Waymo?
aug 23, 2025, 5:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Ten years ago I was like “I will never get in a self driving car” I’m totally fine in Waymos. This came after spending a significant amount of time observing their behavior towards me as a pedestrian, the general “safety first” stance of the company and their actions following through on that,
aug 23, 2025, 5:21 pm • 4 0 • view
And the details that fall out from that: their visualization of what the car sees when you’re inside one is far more clear than in Teslas, for example.
aug 23, 2025, 5:21 pm • 4 0 • view
They can sometimes be momentarily annoying because they are *too* safe, they do not bend rules even if it were probably reasonable. But that’s actually the way I’d prefer it even if occasionally I’m like “as a human I’d probably bend slightly here”
aug 23, 2025, 5:21 pm • 3 0 • view
This is such an interesting thing to think about in the light of self-driving cars and where we are. At some point giving someone the cars in my garage currently becomes the "allow me to pontentially kill myself and others" button.
aug 23, 2025, 5:12 pm • 4 0 • view
Always has been dot jpeg
aug 23, 2025, 5:16 pm • 3 0 • view
well that is true! society has a long history of letting people do deadly stuff and then gradually pulling back from that, it's a process, but I'm on the side of safety
aug 23, 2025, 5:18 pm • 1 0 • view
oh i completely agree, and I think they owe a lot of people a lot of money for the product they sold people for a decade with that as an addendum
aug 23, 2025, 5:04 pm • 1 0 • view
I think that’s why they keep letting people who paid for FSD transfer it to new vehicles even though that wasn’t the original plan.
aug 23, 2025, 5:07 pm • 1 0 • view
that is at least a positive development
aug 23, 2025, 5:08 pm • 1 0 • view
Yeah not saying you’re being shitty here, just like… ugh. Thankfully that one recent court case still held Tesla liable here, I hope it’s upheld
aug 23, 2025, 5:05 pm • 1 0 • view