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Paul Evans @pauliewaulie.bsky.social

And yet one who disagrees with both the current leader and the last one on so much, it seems. I’m absolutely someone who will need a very strong reason to not treat a social-democratic option as the least worst one. Tell anyone who knows me that I’m some pro-Labour dalek and they’d laugh at you.

aug 31, 2025, 6:34 pm • 0 0

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Stephen Bush @stephenkb.bsky.social

Yet in the here and now, you are excusemaking and the reality is for all your disagreements, you are in the tank for it. That’s ok, but you are also kidding yourself if you think you are not a partisan.

aug 31, 2025, 6:36 pm • 2 0 • view
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Paul Evans @pauliewaulie.bsky.social

Ok. I think I know what you’re arguing against, but not what you’re arguing for. I think political biases are only a small part of this, but do you think, in aggregate, the news & commentary consumed by the public judge Labour politicians/policies by the same standards as they treat conservatives?

aug 31, 2025, 6:43 pm • 0 0 • view
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Stephen Bush @stephenkb.bsky.social

The bias across old media, YouTube and TikTok is not so great to make “don’t even take a punt on attacking the Taliban” a good call, and the audience is not just Reform voters. It is also people who think that the government’s economic policies took a marked turn for the worse after July 2024.

aug 31, 2025, 6:50 pm • 2 0 • view
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Paul Evans @pauliewaulie.bsky.social

He will row back on it. He will get the benefit of the doubt. I mean, it may sow some small doubts but the traffic is v much in the other direction. Again, to think there is an equivalence with Salisbury is a mistake.

aug 31, 2025, 7:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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Stephen Bush @stephenkb.bsky.social

Paul - you are not a swing voter and you hold them with contempt. No, there is not equivalence, in that the Tory machine in 2018 was not midway through being replaced, the SWP position was less unpopular than “give money to the Taliban”.

aug 31, 2025, 7:06 pm • 1 0 • view
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Paul Evans @pauliewaulie.bsky.social

I’m afraid I don’t understand your analogy. And also, I Do Not Hold Swing Voters Or Reform Voters In Contempt. I’ve no idea why you are saying this.

aug 31, 2025, 7:11 pm • 0 0 • view
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Stephen Bush @stephenkb.bsky.social

Because you keep demonstrating that you do. Maybe you could start by not treating *me* with contempt, just a wild idea.

aug 31, 2025, 7:14 pm • 0 0 • view
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Paul Evans @pauliewaulie.bsky.social

Ok, I have not had any intention of, or being aware that I’ve treated you with contempt at any point in this conversation. Tbh, I feel it’s been coming in the other direction. I mean, I *am* contemptuous of the people who are monetising divisive and hateful reportage and commentary.

aug 31, 2025, 7:20 pm • 0 0 • view