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everwich.bsky.social @everwich.bsky.social

I think most western hemisphere countries do it the same as the US. So it is not really an oddity in that neighborhood. And the UK also had this regime of citizenship before 1983. The original point I made a few months ago was that in the US there is a strong ideology of assimilation

aug 29, 2025, 12:25 am • 0 0

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seancj.bsky.social @seancj.bsky.social

That was kinda what I was trying to point out - that my feeling was its the norm in the Americas (but not in Europe - I was referring to the UK's neighborhood). On your other point: "strong ideology of assimilation" - I've only ever been to the US once for a couple weeks, so I don't think .. 1/2

aug 29, 2025, 8:53 am • 0 0 • view
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seancj.bsky.social @seancj.bsky.social

.. I can judge, but my impression is - idk, you really have some weird things going on regarding the generic view of "races" most people have. So, I'd reiterate - I don't think comparisons are very much helpful (though discussing developments in the US and Europe is certainly interesting).

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everwich.bsky.social @everwich.bsky.social

I find the idea that such comparisons are unhelpful to be strange I guess. Avoiding such comparisons for... I'm not actually sure why you would want to avoid them... It serves the purpose of stifling the conversation and limiting knowledge of how people experience the world

aug 29, 2025, 10:39 am • 0 0 • view
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seancj.bsky.social @seancj.bsky.social

I think my point is that the depth you need to go to for a meaningful comparison is beyond what can regularly/sensibly achieved on a platform such as BlueSky. If I wanted to look at parallels and differences - beyond just entirely superficially - I'd need room and time to look at cases in detail 1/

aug 29, 2025, 10:50 am • 0 0 • view
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seancj.bsky.social @seancj.bsky.social

which, like I said, is not really possible here. Which in turn leads me to my conclusion (that - at least here - its probably going to be more constructive to discuss issues more narrowly). Like - I think it'd be interesting to discuss differences between Europe and the US, but my feeling is 2/

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seancj.bsky.social @seancj.bsky.social

we don't even share the vocabulary to do so (sensibly). fin/3

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crzwdjk.bsky.social @crzwdjk.bsky.social

Birthright citizenship is very much an American thing, every country in the hemisphere has it except Colombia and I think the Dominican Republic, both repealing their laws because of racism.

aug 29, 2025, 12:43 am • 2 0 • view
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everwich.bsky.social @everwich.bsky.social

While in Europe the degrees to which someone might be considered "unassimilable" can be more pronounced. We could talk about how many European countries came about as nationalist projects and how that relates to this. Or modern-day identity politics. Or we can feel insulted and rage about it.

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