Did anyone actually think they were voting for this?
Did anyone actually think they were voting for this?
Yes! Without any doubt, I knew this was coming!
sure of course they did and many voted against
I think so, but everyone is capable of an epiphany.
Actually very few are.
You’re probably right, but try to stay hopeful. 🤓🥸
Yes. Many are saying they didn't vote for this to save face, when they actually did vote for this. Many also voted for this thinking that this wouldn't happen, even though they were told this would happen, and are trying to justify their votes. Don't let them!
Many people were stupid enough to believe him, but it wasn't a majority. Elon's minions hacked the voting machines to give him his "victory".
I believe that too. Eventually it will come out—and Trump’s close relationship with Epstein—and the corruption and bribes of the Roberts Court—& all the rest. “Foul deeds will rise,/Though all the earth o’erwhelm them to men’s eyes.”
No one... The question is, where the Doge boys were and Starlink 11/05/24 WTF were they doing someone named Musk taught them to destroy America.
There's no excuse for them not knowing, he never hid it.
yes the fucking did. it was all in writing. hold MAGA accountable
The problem with the US is the segregation. I don't just mean racial. I mean economic divide. We all live in bubbles with very little mixing going on. It is why I suggested ages ago that if Democrats want to win over Trump supporters for the next election, you need to actually go to rural poor areas
And yes, some people knew what they voting for and still think this is a good idea. There are many with buyer's remorse. Young men were particularly targets. I suspect many Hispanic voters have regrets. But... you never know with people. Ignorance is bliss until it isn't.
I’ve worked in rural poor areas (as a physician). They aren’t persuadable by and large because they are authoritarian followers and believe what the priest or minister or Fox News tells them. Few are capable of abstract critical thought and most never will be.
I live in a rural area. It is that type of elitist thinking that will continue this cycle. It also begs the question how my Democratic governor was elected not once but twice. Not everyone in a poor rural area is okay with the current administration.
The point is that to change this country we have to stop writing people off as a lost cause. We have to change how our parties lead and help write a new narrative. If we do not, and we survive this mess, it will just continue to happen.
By the way I have spent much of my career working in rural areas but I’m now 70. Despite my own disillusionment—I no longer believe in Rousseau—all of this is work for many hands, and I don’t want to discourage you in the least. Go for it!
I AM elitist. I believe in science and the human intellect and despise religion. How do you account for the deep red of all the rural areas on the map? What state are you from? I lived in Minnesota and saw the red tide wash over most of the non metro areas & now live in a blue oasis in Arizona
I live in KY. I returned here after living in England for 7 years. What I came back to... well the world moved on in the worst way. But I try to help people understand that there are better ways to handle immigration and economical discontent than voting against your own self interest.
I grew up in southern poverty. I understand how people were turned to Trumpism. After being out of this country and coming back, I see the country for what it is now and how capitalism was never meant to be a way-of-life.
But I want you to know that I appreciate you. Physicians, ones that work in rural areas, have some of the toughest jobs. I'm saddened our country has become what it is today. I just hope I can help change minds. Sorry if I came off kind of rude. It's been a tough week for us all.
for the usual reasons—mostly family; ailing parents, etc. But I’ve always kind of regretted leaving there. I now live in Flagstaff-a blue oasis in the middle of ruby red Arizona. I’m consoled by the fact that Trump & his enablers will eventually crash; then maybe a fresh start? A sadder wiser morn
I remember all the people flying support our troops ribbons and flags on SUVs when Bush decided on the war in Iraq (over the non-existent WMDs). I was almost alone in opposing all that. I had some intellectually challenging politically likeminded friends. I’m still in touch with one person there
I am glad I practiced in rural Minnesota. Learned a lot. I tried to involve my patients as far as I could in medical decisions and started a brain conference (Willmar) to introduce cutting edge ideas about neuroscience (autism, TBI, addictions). I think I did make some headway…
I hope to see this government fail too. After that, reforming the government would hopefully be a top priority. It is incredibly disheartening to watch scientific research be dismantled by the government. It makes me angry. There are days when I question why I remain in KY. It feels hopeless.
You helped in a way most people will never understand. I think you did more than make some headway. You helped humanity, people who probably didn't fully understand what you were doing for them. I wish there were more people like you out there and less of what we are seeing.
It does feel hopeless, & I think Kentucky would be tough. But as Buddhism teaches, whatever is increasing must also decrease, and I think they already are on the way down and they will fall. They always do.
like education and health care we will now never have again. Noted about living in Kentucky now and spending 7 years in England—another country that took a wrong turn (I have many friends there). I practiced a year in New Zealand in 1999-2000–that was an eye opener. I loved it there but came back
But mostly I’ve moved on and now devote most of my time to astronomy (coauthored the book Discovering Mars among others), and though I’m a fiend for protests, am not optimistic. The US took a wrong turn long ago (under Reagan I’d say), and despite our wealth missed opportunities to improve things
Get on any live stream with maga & they are loving this. Still spouting the lie it’s only happening to “illegal” immigrants. They are blood thirsty like their cult leader.
Sadly...yes. Many.
I made the only sane choice and voted for Harris Many were misled and voted for the felonious meglomaniac, and now we hope our country can survive.
With maga cruelty it the point
Let's uphold democracy AND human decency. "Human decency" means that we actively and peacefully oppose dehumanization based on race, gender, economic class, orientation, religion, citizenship status, or national origin.
Yes. MAGA is cheering this on. They love this. Owing the libs is their prime motivator. When the NG shoots someone, they will reach the Nirvana of the MAGA movement.
1st problem, they weren't thinking.
If some of us knew we were voting AGAINST this, then others knew they were voting FOR it.
Go over to Twitter. Almost everyone there saying they DID vote for this!
They knew they were voting for a convicted felon who doesn’t believe in the rule of law. I believe that every Trump voter is responsible for this.
Yes plenty of America wants to end the 2 million+ illegal aliens who come into this country every year.
Sadly many wanted this
Plenty of people wanted exactly this... they wrote it down, and organized for years
what exactly
We warned them not to vote for him but because they thought women are weak that’s why we are suffering 😩
If you didn’t learn about Project 2025, you weren’t paying attention! Now look at us!?🤬👿
They sure did, make murrica white again was always their only agenda.
Yeah "wanna hurt the libs, watch them howl in pain"
There is a contingent of people that voted for Trump because they thought he was going to do every bad thing he is doing in the hopes it would cause revolution. Anti Trump, Trump voters.
A large percentage of them were poorly educated “Christian” rural types who believe that a priest can turn a wafer of bread into the actual body and blood of a guy who died 2,000 years ago! Magic wanders.
Surely you're not suggesting sheer stupidity is at work here.
It’s dumb, for certain.
As Sherlock Holmes said, “when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” I’d go with Occam’s razor here—stark unmitigated stupidity
You don’t want to discount people acting dumb, but acting in pure maliciousness.
There’s a big overlap there. Dumb and malicious tend to go hand in hand in my experience—look at the whole Republican Party for instance.
I don’t mean those people. People that generally wanted drastic change to occur and believed the Democrats would never get it done. So they voted for Trump in hopes he would break everything and other people would fix it. Its not smart, but thats why they voted.
Well, they got drastic change, so yes, they voted for this.
Anyone who voted for Trump, for whatever reason, or didn’t vote at all, or voted for Jill Stein or Putin or whomever is dead to me.
He was truthful in that statement. He really doesn’t care about his supporters.
Same.
Yep
And is responsible for this-
Whether they did know or not, they are responsible for the horror of NAZIMERICA. I do NOT forgive their willful ignorance.
Nor I. They are the witting or unwitting authors of the destruction of all I held dear about this country. I am over them no matter what their excuses; they are dead to me.
Yes they did and wouldn't change their vote even when saying that "I didn't vote for this." That's my issue obviously you don't agree you didn't vote for this or you would say you would change your vote if you could. This is like somebody apologizing but still doing it again. You aren't sorry
Yes. Not me. But cruelty and the prospect of violence are central to Trump's appeal to his core support.
White supremecists listening to the dog whistles did vote for all of this fascism.
They don't care... until it affects them!🤬🤬🤬🤬
Well, he was very clear, and there was a whole book written on this chaos, so yes, they knew what they were voting for.
Yes.
Before the revelations of the death camps, from, let's say 1933 to 1943, within the United States, it was NOT extraordinary to admire Hitler. At any given time maybe at a quarter to a third of Americans have always wanted an authoritarian government,
and have always wanted to see cruelty and violence visited on those they hate. In the United States, it just never reached a majority, you didn't hear them much because they were not within the "Overton window." We also had norms, which turn out to be fragile. Military parades with tanks
rolling down DC would have been perceived as "unAmerican." The only hope is that nowadays they are still playing tricky double-meaning games and plausible deniability; in this case a date coincidence because it is not yet acceptable to openly admit it is in honor of Trump's birthday.
So the short answer is, yeah, MANY people did think they were voting for this.
Kamala knew, but she chose Israel over US so you can blame anti genocide protesters.
Some little dick energy white boys did.
As did 52 percent of white women and the vast evangelical undertow of western civilization
As a white guy those groups are all despicable to me in the current political climate.
Yes, unfortunately, many white people think this is good and lack the will, critical thinking skills or courage to do the work to learn what is not easiest on their world view.
Most of it
They knew, even if they lie about it, today.
They didn’t not-vote for it.
The mags in my area are HAPPY about what is going on. They can’t see that he will turn on them as soon as he no longer needs them. Probably by the end of the year
Some who voted for this didn't realize what they were unleashing on the US. Regrets won't help anyone.
He said what he was going to do. (minus some Project 2025 stuff)
Yes, of course they did. Everything Trump is doing is EXACTLY what he campaigned on. His voters want the government to hurt others they don't like. They get mad about people a thousand miles away from them being able to exist and live here. His approval rating will 📈 bsky.app/profile/dana...
Yes, 77 million did and they still fully support what's happening.
Yes that’s who red state Americans and rural Americans and white Christian nationalists (overlap there) wanted and they got it.
Yes.
Sooooo many
There are two kinds of Trump voters: the ones that knew they were voting for this and the ones that were too stupid to know they were voting for this. I have an equal amount of contempt for both kinds.
Hey America, don't you think it's past time for THIS to be just another LIE by the fat, dumb, LYING, cheating, pos traitor, vindictive sore loser and CONVICTED FELON???
I think the real question is, did the people that didn’t vote know this is what would happen? Those that voted for him wanted this.
Historically there are folks that refuse to vote. IMO they do so to avoid any responsibility for what happens. Sure they have excuses, but it boils down to responsibility
If you don’t vote then you have no place complaining. Voting is a right that people have fought for and we should not squander it!
Agree 💯
The US by and large no longer has a citizenry that deserves a democracy. I do think corruptions of the electoral process by republicans in state legislatures and the US Supreme Court (Shelby, Citizens United) are also to blame. But the US is a falling and fallen power no doubt and it will remain so
If they were paying attention they did.. Project 25.. of course if they believed the lies they were not so smart….
If there are folks who voted against at this, there are folks who voted for this.
Yes. Some people are just evil and relish in the suffering of others.
They all knew. I hate the ignorance argument. THEY. KNEW.
They voted for a criminal in order to commit crimes.
Some did and hoped for it
I think its foolish to assume that Trump voters are on the whole dissatisfied. This is the only path to turning America into the fascist theocracy they want.
Lots of scumbags are celebrating. They don’t understand history or the constitution, they only know hate for anything they don’t or can’t understand.
Yes, they are a cult.
Oh, yes. Trump voters are a lot worse people than you think. They only say stuff like "I'm being canceled" because they're such snowflakes they can't handle others disapproving of their open racism.
The red hats did !! They just for some reason they were going to get a pass for being good liddle cultists !!!
Yes they did
They ONLY care when it starts to effect them personally! Otherwise they don’t give a 💩 about anyone else. Total Losers FAFO
30% are still cheering on the dystopian fever dream and 40% don't care
Probably about right. Makes a strong case for secession if the states where the remaining 30 percent are concentrated doesn’t it?
The problem is they are not concentrated ..
It’s a bit like trying to sort a huge pile of smooth peas from wrinkled peas with a tweezer I’m afraid.
Many love it and support Trump to be more cruel.
They fucking love this!
They knew what they were voting for. They just thought it would only hurt 'those' people.
Dems were voting against ‘this’. Dem leaders predicted exactly what was ahead if Trump got in. Dem leaders warned everyone, again, again, again, again, again. Maybe MAGA and non voters had their minds, ears, eyes, and hearts closed shut.
Worse- they didn’t care. Racists+low information voters = this shit.
Yes they did vote for this.
No, this is far worse than anyone, and I mean ANYONE, imagined. It's the stuff nightmares are made of. 😯
But I think for that very reason they overplayed their hand. The big military parade and the ICE goons shooting at protestors is reminiscent of the USSR in its last days. They have a tyranny for the moment but it’s really unpopular and they have to somehow hold onto it. No easy task.
ICE, along with everything else about this regime, is unpopular. They're not doing what we were told. They're not capturing dangerous gang members, they're taking working people with families, nursing mothers. ICE members are the dangerous, masked gang criminals. The parade is an insult to America.
What you're saying may be reality, but it is not what the Fox News zombies are hearing. This is a war against an invading army of illegal aliens! The people who voted for Trump are dancing in the street seeing troops enter LA They just can't wait for it to be San Francisco as well and Seattle.
I think they are awaking a sleeping giant. It will be something when it is “woke.”
I think that's what frightens me! I worry that the regime will escalate violence which will be met with more violence. There is not one person in the government qualified to be there. What is wrong with congress? Rein this in before it's a war. Any calming wisdom from you?
Congress has sold out, so have the Supremes. Best comfort I can offer is that we have to persevere and they *will* topple, as they are led by an almost 80 year old demented erratic career criminal who is deeply hated, and the rest of them, once he’s gone, will scatter like blown flies
Fingers crossed!
Yes. I see it all over on "the bad place" all the MAGAts on X are over the moon for - Dear leader
Sure they did. They like it.
Yup. They want a trump dictatorship.
The Fox news zombies are eating this up. This is EXACTLY what the voted for
77,302,580 Americans did vote for this. Sickening….
Yes, absolutely. At least a quarter (certainly more) of Americans actually want fascism in America. The sooner the rest fully accept that sad fact, the better. It's way too late for denial.
Of course they did.
Are you fucking serious? Like, millions voted for this and much worse.
Mostly yeah. I work with a guy who regretted his vote within the first three months. One guy out of all the people and clients I work with.
Well, the people at the Republican national convention holding up signs that exclaimed "Mass Deportations Now!" probably did.
Oh yes. Some people are gleeful about it, and it's nauseating.
they are culpable
They not only voted for this they’re enjoying it.
I suppose this question will never stop whether the government attacks citizens or as in the last time, citizens attack the government. The answer is as obvious as the nose on your face. 77 million Magats wanted all of this and more.
Putin?
For sure. And Nitwit-yahoo
Are you kidding? Yes this is exactly what they voted for and they are happy as f**k.
Yep, their lil wee wee's are super hard!
yes-they knew, they want non-whites out of this country.period.
They knew
Yes. 35% of this country is fascist, at least.
Which means 65 percent are either neutral or against them. I’d say the numbers are changing by the minute.
As was said: Dear America: You are waking up, as Germany once did, to the awareness that 1/3 of your people would kill another 1/3, while 1/3 watches
Then act like it never happened!
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Yup.
Those of us who voted differently knew exactly what the Trump voters were voting for.
Yes, they knew it and loved it. They just didn't realize that it would come for them too.
Yes…because there are people that are fine w/what the 🤡💩 is doing
100% they did. Proj 2025 was out there to be read, and it is a play by play of what is happening.
Let's be real though Name one MAGA you've ever talked to and thought "i bet they're a reader"
Absolutely. Peaceful people just don't want/like to believe that huge numbers of Americans - not an imagined fringe - wanted this, still want it, and think it's not enough. Those people are no worse that the non-voters who didn't/don't give a shit, but yes. Go on Twitter for 30 seconds to confirm.
Many Republican voted against Democrats. The difference between the two extremes is that the left advocates on divisive issues that are tangible (trans girls in girls sports), while the right adopts centrist language all can support: ‘Make America Great?’ And this masks the evil that underlies.
Oh, I'm sure some did and are cheering. Others didn't, but don't care YET. It "doesn't affect them." YET.