Somehow we have to find a way of screening narcissistic sociopaths from the highest offices in government
Somehow we have to find a way of screening narcissistic sociopaths from the highest offices in government
And business.
"And now, sir....the Ketchup test."
Easy. Don’t elect Republicans. Problem solved.
I’m with you
We had a way, we thought; free and fair elections. Unfortunately that’s something that no longer seems attainable.
“The Commonwealth Requires the Education of the People as the Safeguard of Order and Liberty.” That inscription is on the facade of the Boston Public Library, acknowledging that democracy requires an educated citizenry. That's what protects us from narcissistic sociopaths & it's what we don't have.
A basic federal background check to EVEN RUN FOR ANY OFFICES, FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL!
I thought it was called the Electoral College. Since it seems to have no function, I suggest we delete it…
Maybe start with a rule that you can’t have a criminal record??
And not grant felons and rapists immunity for all “official” acts (wasn’t Auschwitz an “official act,” bombing Pearl Harbor, sending dissidents to the Soviet gulags. We don’t like it so much when others do it I guess)
The list of disqualifiers is endless and he checks EVERY box😡
Simple: Don't let anyone who wants to be President be president. Make it an obligation, not a pleasure. Then you'll see who really wants to change this world.
Psychological screening and IQ test
No one person should ever wield as much power as the US president. You're asking for trouble.
Agreed. It will continue to be a huge problem going forward—see the history of the Roman Empire which had its year of six emperors and the endless dynastic and religious wars of the 1400s on.
Quit electing the RthugiKKKans.
We must!
Put a stop to Fox News. Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. Stop the brainwashing
1. 1A allows FNC to exist 2. You don’t know what that policy was. 3. That policy didn’t have anything to do with cable channels. 4. It’s demand, not supply. Stop Pretending people are brainwashed.
I think maybe not allow anyone who actually wants the job to run.
Listening to their victims would be a good starting point.
Fucking "A"!👽
Gee. That’s a tough one…
After this disaster, the ‘Big Beautiful Never Again Orange Fuckwit Bill’ needs to be introduced….
Keep big money out of politics
People who stay in power too long, and it does not take long, tend to lose the empathy that original got them in and elected. Decisions made that harm people, which they end up doing, and wars. And the compromises. So they go into a corrupt system and change. I have read. For what it's worth.
Sorry, it’s probably a requirement.
Isn’t it too late.. he already damaged the country for too deep. If he continues to stay for his full term.. America will have changed forever.. it’s people and the society will start to expect and demand similar changes and treatment.. remember most people like sheep. They tend to be slavish!
Sadly we took the wrong bend in the road in 1980, with the smooth talking Chesterfield cigarette guy (who didn’t smoke) who looked good on a horse & wearing a Stetson & warned us unions were bad, government was in the way, welfare queens were bad, greed was good & loved tv dinners in the WH.
Simple. Don't vote gop.
Especially if they happen to be convicted felons as well.
Voters with common sense and critical thinking skills used to be enough
💯. I have this thought often!!
We do. It is called the Senate, who failed at their constitutional duty.
+1000
If only there were some evidence of the current president's narcissism before he was elected...🤔🤨🙄
Before the election he looked like Mother Theresa, Albert Schweitzer, and Einstein all combined. How were we to pick up on the subtle signs that he wasn’t when even the acute minds on Fox News, and giants like Mike Johnson and MTG and TommybTubercille missed it!!
Have a job experience requirements: theatre background, social worker, military, teacher w/ admin experience, union leaders, etc. aka a demonstrable ability to work with groups to forward common goal, elevate the team, manage budgets. Nepo-baby or would-be mogul = go away.
So, IQ test and psych screen.
We did not need any kind of test for this one to attain the office of president. We all knew what a RPPOS he is. It's just that a large percentage of the US finally felt it was OK to tell people what racist motherfuckers they truly are. (RPPOS=roly poly piece o' shit)
Sadly true.
Somehow we must force the racists back into the caves and sewers they crawled out of
Public servants should have to pass a civics test & basic bookkeeping. I also think if you are going to be on SCOTUS or in the White House, in any capacity, you should have a psychological, neuropsych, & cognitive screening. Cognitive screening would be helpful for the geriatrics in Congress, too.
Narcissism is an epidemic that needs addressing
It's called "elections". Free, fair, open to all who are eligible to vote without undue hardships. Early voting, vote by mail should be available to all. Extra security for voting officials and polling places because a certain group seeks to stop all these things.
One would think. But that’s not how we do it here
By then it's usually too late. They will have the support of other histrionic narcissistic sociopaths they make feel validated. Clearly identifiable clinical personality disorders need to addressed in childhood.
Very simple. Give them a psychological test with neutral doctors. Not their doctors. And not the parties doctors.
And, if they're revealed to be narcissists, deport them. Preferably to Mars.
Secession is how we do that.
I think it’s the only way out in the end; the Republican Party and the constituencies they “represent” are totally f—d beyond repair. We need to leave red states behind just as the rest of the world is leaving the US behind
It just makes sense. They hate our guts anyway. www.thenation.com/article/poli...
Listen to women.
We require formal education and testing for everything from cutting hair to brain surgery. There's no reason we shouldn't require it for candidates for public office. Knowledge of our government system and the ethical and legal principles of good governance are not partisan.
And the same with judges—including those on the Supreme Court. They’ve got their hands in all kinds of pies about which they know nothing at all—science for instance. The Roberts six could be replaced by a Grok algorithm and no one would notice, quite apart from the fact often they write nothing
While I don't necessarily disagree, I think it is a much stickier wicket.
We used to use public school education. Doesn't seem to work when people can choose their own "facts" and believe not just a dummy, not just a terrible con, not just an idiot who can't tell tv from reality...but a racist rapist who preyed on little girls and exalts in inhuman cruelty. A long road.
start by prohibiting any *republican*
The Republican Party (or Republic Party as it should be called for consistency) should be outlawed like the Afrikaaner party in So Africa or the Nazi Party in Germany.
absolutely agree
It would help if Congress wasn't full of MAGAt traitors who ignore blatant lies in confirmation hearings and endorse morons, embezzlers, MAGAt traitors and pedophiles.
We'd have to start by removing the narcissistic sociopath who's appointing them.
From *all* offices in government.
The entire system is designed to reward greed and sociopathy. What do you expect?
We used to have a way. It was called being an "informed voter." I think those days are long gone.
We also had a voting rights act but John Roberts decided the more perfect union was as perfect as need be and quashed that (major doctrines be damned!)
This 👆
Yes! It’s hard when that is exactly what republicans look for in a candidate.
Their problem is that they’re authoritarian followers, poorly educated, unable to see a lamppost in the middle of the day. They are easy to play for suckers and dupes-just wear a cross around your neck, wave a flag, dress up like police or in military gear, and tell them they’re victims.
So true.
Such ideas are running around for dozens of years. The question is, who is going to do the screening?
Always a problem since the ones that hold power either don’t want to be screened or can get sycophants like Dr Feel-good (Ronnie Jackson) to say whatever they want.
Don't forget that psychiatrists are rarely completely sane people themselves. Too much time spent with insane people.
I think ridding the country of the bane of religion would do more good than loading the entire population up with Prozac and Thorazine. It is, as Freud said, a mass delusion, and makes people susceptible to all sorts of other crap like Trumpism which is itself a kind of deformed degraded religion
Maybe; but as a retired psychiatrist I’d like to think I’ve learned a bit about what constitutes sanity and mental well-being too Also—your saying sort of rings true but then are most internists sick and most oncologists rife with tunors?
Unfortunately, the system is set up to identify, elevate, and nurture them.
Trump's personal history should have been enough.
Impossible unless you can find a way to screen out the narcissistic sociopaths that vote.
They aren’t by & large sociopaths; they’re unwitting victims—the same ones who buy good-for-all-that-ails-you pills at the fair, watch Fox News 24/7, listen to religious hucksters & give them money. They’re poorly educated, stupid, gullible, meanspirited & hateful followers mostly but not sociopaths
You're no longer a victim once you choose to continue being victimized.
Most victims don’t choose to be victimized. That’s why they continue to be victimized.
Trump voters saw what he was like and they liked that shit. They willingly chose to be victimized by him further.
Yup; and they are dead to me forever.
LOL even when people were told, they voted for Trump and his various picks.
Maybe we made the first mistake when we set up a system that only allows entry for people saying "Hey, vote for MEEEE!"
And allowed a winner-take-all system with disproportionate representation for billionaires and large empty land masses (if only ears of corn and cows could vote!) and effectually created two parties—them and us.
Would you be surprised if I told you the United States already employs people to screen these people out? We would solely have to make getting an appointment with a panel of our existing federal employees who do these kinds of screenings a mandatory requirement to hold office in the US.
Let it begin. Maybe Kash Patel or Tom Homan or Pam Bondi will get the ball rolling.
Public education standards would be one way. Less gullible and less religious would be another. A real media and an independent judiciary might help. Perhaps some states leaving the union might be a wake up call.
If I could leave the union I’d pounce in a heartbeat—I would love to be a citizen of Canada, Mexico, or Brazil.
Probably too late at that point!
Make them unpaid positions.
Trump is a monster in wolf's clothing. He must be stopped. #NoPedophiles 😭 #NoKings 🤬 #SpeakTruthToPower ❤️ #WeThePeople ❤️ #ResetAmerica ❤️ #DismantleICE 🤬 #NoNazis ☠
He SAID he was going to be a dictator on day one. And they elected him anyway. YOU WOULD THINK A LAW THAT DISQUALIFIES CONVICTED FELONS FROM SERVING AS PRESIDENT WOULD BE A NO-BRAINER 🤔
Unfortunately the Republican Congress and MAGA court are no brains
Agree!
Or, hear me out, STOP VOTING FOR THEM!!!
Well I never voted for the assholes
Me neither, but that should be enough.
You should at least have a record of public service before assuming the presidency. WH interns have requirements, no?
Makes sense. But that’s probably a bridge too far for most Americans. We are an idiocracy.
*sigh* Why we can't have nice things.
If only. The orange guy was elected without political experience. The problem is #misinformation. #Media outlets really need to tell the complete truth and not sugar coat lies. With the growth of A.I. in every day lives, misinformation has to be controlled.
Would you want an airliner you were on to be piloted by someone with no experience, to have brain surgery by a vacuum cleaner salesman, your financial adviser to be someone who flunked 9th grade math? No? Me neither. But to be president: no experience required. To get reelected: felons preferred
Definitely not. I agree with you. Qualifications for political offices are needed. I was stressing the fact that the orange guy won without experience. The irony is that he expects qualifications (brightest) be a prerequisite for many jobs. Even if Congress voted for changes, he'd probably veto it.
No I don’t think he expects—or is getting—the brightest. Fox News hosts and sycophantic lackeys. And that may be his downfall.
Not in his office, no. In jobs outside of the White House. His administration needs drug testing. 🙂
We do, people failed the test.
No, not people; the American people
Focus on Senators…they are the ones letting all the shit in the doors….
We also need to understand how so much of the population could be drawn to them.
But then who will run?
Restore Public Education.
Yessir
Somehow we have to stop voting for narcissistic psychopaths to the highest office. "We the people" means the blame is on us
Neuroscientist James Fallon found that psychopaths can be identified: fMRI & MRI reveal structural & functional differences in the brains of individuals with psychopathic traits compared to those without. I think anyone running for office should have their brain scanned & the info made public.
They can still run for office, but we should know if we're voting for psychopaths.
Like paying attention? Honestly, at this point I am convinced there are more stupid people than are being counted.
Well a simple majority have iqs below average after all.
Why?
I think it’s impossible while they are in power.
🙏🙏🙏
We have the way; “Common Sense!”
Also a basic civics knowledge, as long as we’re asking.
At the very least, ranked choice should be used universally. It allows people to vote their conscience but still have a rational backup.
Get rid of the Electoral College or this type of voting still doesn’t reflect reality.
Yes, this one single act would refresh US politics.
The Constitution needs a complete revision.
Better we find a way to get them out of office when we figure out who they really are.
Defund gop
It should be easy. No one that wants to be a politician should be allowed to be a politician. At least not until we can separate corporate money from their bank accounts.
yep, their like flies to shit with this.
It's called "empowering peoole with knowledge, education, and the connections between their choices and the outcomes they experience"
That sounds so unAmerican to me!
Agreed, I'm not exactly ordinary though.
Put your thoughts in writing. Be vocal. Be visible. Be disruptive. In whatever form.
Don't give the GOP members of Congress a minute of peace. You have a right to call anyone in Congress. Here's the senator phone list. There are 53 Republican Senators Call every day. Ok to call off hours and blow up their VM. 202.224.#### Be vocal. Be visible. Be disruptive. Make the calls
Further, anyone applying for the job - in any official capacity- must be ….. QUALIFIED
The only qualifications are US birth citizenship and age 35.-
Exactly
There is an entire unqualified DEI Cabinet members currently.
Easier said than done. The traits that allow a person to be elected seldom correlate to actual competence at governance; in fact, they’re nearly mutually exclusive. Human nature being what it is, people vote for those who tell them what they want to hear, not what they need to hear.
The US system in particular rewards candidates who are good at getting elected, but not necessarily anything else.
I fear there is something in humans that their behavior appeals to. Going to be hard to break.
How about screening them out at the very bottom? Surely by now their tendencies are on display and can be learned?
From all offices in government.
Isn’t ‘narcissistic sociopath’ a requirement written in the job description?
Some way we need to educate a lot of people
Simply reading & paying attention would go a long way. Nothing about trump is new, it was just ignored by a suits.
Hello anarchy.
I really think a full battery of psychological tests and evaluations should be run on Presidential candidates. One’s mental health should be examined and tested just the same way the physical health is examined and tested. And definitely throw in an IQ test, too.
For starters get big money bribery out of politics.
It should have never been put in except for the Roberts Court’s corruption
Finding narcopaths in the highest offices in government is not new.. They are prevalent and pervasive They have always been there They just don't need to hide anymore And given the narcissistic world their traits are seemed as credentials versus deficits This is actually been funny
Well you don't really have to screen them you can be guaranteed that by virtue of the very offices in government attracts pathologies The question becomes which ones can we tolerate and where are they on the continuum of the DSM that's about to be published
No, we have to stop voting for them.
Also plain old garden variety bigots and crooks.
“Somehow we have to find a way of screening narcissistic sociopaths,” period.
Or perhaps a way of screening those who put them there? The narcissistic sociopaths in office are media promoted, groomed, financially backed, and protected by a lot of people.
OOOPS TOO LATE So much for the "genius" of the founding fathers amirite
The founding fathers were smug privileged white men most of whom owned slaves & hated women & other savages. They created a document that reflected this & the bigots on the SC with their “originalist” fallacies noted, bingo, all they had to do is learn what the founders thought to bring it all back
Too many world governments are run by narcissistic sociopaths and they love to kill innocent people they don’t like. They feel entitled to other country’s land and don’t care if children die in their effort to take it. How do they hide their sick side so well until they have the power?🤬
How about by not granting them criminal immunity and the power of the pardon to use to help other criminals. Stacking the fuck out of the supreme court is a great start.