The feedback I’ve been getting from people elsewhere, especially Latin America, is that maybe we were never as admired as we like to think.
The feedback I’ve been getting from people elsewhere, especially Latin America, is that maybe we were never as admired as we like to think.
Agree.
We fucked up most nations in Central and South America either to get tight with dictators during the Cold War or to pretend we cared about stopping drugs
"...we are really just a nation of 220 million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns, and no qualms at all about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.” ― Hunter S. Thompson, The Great Shark Hunt: Strange Tales from a Strange Time
Any country thinking it won't be wounded by US collapse is simply a country of idiots.
The world has always been contemptuous of America’s excessively high opinion of itself. We, as a nation, suffer from collective toxic narcissism.
TRUE..... BUT THAT NEVER STOPPED THEM FROM IMMIGRATING INTO AMERICA.
You mean Cuban Americans like Rubio and Cruz and their ilk don’t you?
Your point being…
We blew a golden opportunity and Kissinger and Reagan did it.
BTW, I once read a comment from an American that 'Jesus is a proud white American christian." Did I mention the rest of the world thinks we're stupid as well?
Oh we totally weren't. Why would they? Other countries might appreciate that the US is so bossy, as we step in other peoples business all the time saving them the trouble, for the most part The rest of the world doesn't like Americans as a people. Why should they we're loud bossy rude and entitled.
We used to go in and rescue countries from war - heroes. Now we invade unprovoked countries like Iraq. We push our weight around everywhere. America - Big Bad Bullies.
Canada whispers: You weren’t. Sorry.
I’ve been saying that America, especially white america, is finally starting to see America the way everyone else does.
You have that right. So regrettable. Money and power have corrupted our better angels.
Since slavery was all about greed & profit &!the genocide of native peoples was basically government/sponsored theft & our involvement in overthrowing other country’s elected leaders was at least partly to serve oil and pineapple interests I’m not sure the better angels were ever much on the job
It is a realization I have come by slowly but surely. I grieve for what we could be by now. I cringe every time Reagan is so frequently quoted about the beautiful city on a hill, and the "make America great again" slogan is shoved down our throats. trump is the culmination of our dark side.
I've been saying for decades that the only people who believe America is the greatest nation are deluded Midwest Americans.
You all live in quite the bubble
I spent a few years overseas in the 70s. While they admired many things the US had accomplished, the overall opinion was that Americans were boorish, arrogant and conceited; they had an overblown sense of their own importance and looked down on the people of other countries. I'd have to agree.
I remember what my friends who came back from Vietnam told me.. stay away from Americans, they believe their own press only to die marching through the jungle with ghetto blasters blaring. Our 🇦🇺 units used to hide in the bushes until the Yanks passed by.. confidence is one thing arrogance another.
The US failed miserably in Vietnam but didn’t learn from their mistake. They probably won’t learn from their current mistakes either. The rest of the world has already started to move on I hope; the US is a hollowed out pit of stupidity and despair
Americans have always been warm & welcoming whenever I’ve visited, they seem completely different to the ones you meet while travelling overseas. It’s a very strange experience meeting them at home, not at all what I expected.
We’ve lived on the fumes of what the ancient Greeks accomplished for a long time now
Did anyone with any education/intelligence ever think we were admired?
That sounds about right! 🇦🇺🐨🦘
Europeans are like myself are slowly understanding what SA people have been saying all along. The US is a violent fascist capitalist nation, paying lip service to "values" that are never upheld when it actually matters. Don't trust US, US is asshoe. Disclaimer - not all Americans, US as a state.
I think it’s all pretty clear now.
Gee, ya think?
When I first started traveling, I was absolutely stunned. I had grown up listening to the "we're the biggest, baddest and the best" propaganda and quickly realized we were way behind most other developed countries... we are still lagging way behind Europe with their great high speed rail system.
No one admires people who condone racism and genocide within their own borders while pretending they are "God's favorite".
I’ll admit the self-righteous religiosity of Americans is pretty unappealing.
When traveling I never share that I’m American. IRL I’ve witnessed so many ignorant, self-consumed Americans, even in my own former friend groups. In college I stuck with the foreigners as I did not trust Americans.
Oh, and I share your sentiments.
Smart. The only Americans I associate with are people who share my interests in science and the arts; all of whom are well educated and progressive. Abroad I avoid Americans like the plague—just don’t care for them
I live in a very awful red state in a sub-rural area near a large city. Since living here I’ve been asked many times if I’m from ‘here’. I take it as a compliment and very thrilled that people know I don’t belong here.
I was raised by a feminist who taught me to question everything. When I was five I announced to my family I would now be called by initials. They asked why? I replied on paper no one will know if I’m a man or a woman.
Then why are so many wanting to immigrate here?
Oh, I don't know. Because the US spent the past century toppling their democratically elected governments, supporting gangs and rebels, and employing beggar thy neighbor fiscal policies? Nah. Couldn't be that. They must be jealous of the freedumbs.
Any port in a storm. If your country is currently at war, even a bad country looks good.
Because they watch Fox News?
The USA is last choice for immigrants and refugees, especially POC.
And for a long time. It’s not just because of Trump 🤷♀️
Agreed.
Bc of that exceptionalism thing, may be?
It breaks my heart that the U.S. was supposed to lead to a better life for so many people who persevered through hardship and tragedies, only to have this evil regime take everything from them. Those who are complicit will never have peace.
Unless and until one becomes an expat, one cannot know how their country is truly received without keen inquiry and copious reading of News From Other Lands
There's been a Double Standard.....from not dealing with Slavery...... But other Counseling need to do some housecleaning too.
Gee, could it possibly be because of our imperialism and constant interference in their governments?
Truth.
I'm sure that the CIA has a lot to do with that!
Or maybe politicians that make provocative speeches against another group of people. youtu.be/qIIs5L5xt6A?...
I saw Iran Contra firsthand.....it got people murdered and destabilized and entire region.
Nope! (Open Veins of Latin America)
Yeah, pretty much. Same from the north. The unfortunate selection of Canadians who are conservative. The Canadians who hate the cold more than racism. That's about it. The rest of us have been shaking our heads in amazement, all along.
No you weren’t…no country is perfect, no country can be wholly admired…the problem with yours was…you all thought you were better, and freer and deserved to be admired, when actually the whole American Dream was capable of collapse from a fat, stupid, orange sex offender.
Americans are the most brainwashed people on the planet from the day we’re born. We’re #1, God Bless America, Pledge of Allegiance every morning, Star Spangled Banner at every gathering, and on and on.
Latin America knows all about Fascist regimes. We’ve been supporting them for decades ! Now the US has its very own !
I’ve traveled extensively in Latin America. Even in 1978 they looked at us as arrogant fools. When you say you’re “American” they say so are we. (Asshole) not verbalized
America has always been the bully in the Western Hemisphere.
American exceptionalism was a self reinforcing bubble? Whaaaaaaaa?
That was definitely brainwashing . Americans have always had the attitude and yet they travel with a Canadian flag 🇨🇦 🙄 for decades . Canadians have been forced to announce who they are everywhere for decades I was told to do that from the 70s . This isn’t new .
Canadians kind of gave you a pass because we are neighbors. And for a while we sort of wondered why the rest of the world felt that way......but we get it now. The US is the worst, on too many metrics to count.
We have been called Ugly Americans for reasons
It never ends well thinking you’re better than others.
How DARE you say something like that to my bigly overinflated 'murican ego!! Good day, sir!!
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Who is "we"?
It's been that way for decades.