No exaggeration, I think the right to burn the American flag is one of the most important rights we have in this country. Maybe the most important. Very bleak!
No exaggeration, I think the right to burn the American flag is one of the most important rights we have in this country. Maybe the most important. Very bleak!
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Honestly surprised he’s not physically destroyed it yet
As a retired military veteran I 100% agree!
The US flag code actually says to burn old flags rather than throw them away because it's more dignified.
That's a remarkable point
It also says not to turn the flag into clothing of any kind and not to alter or deface it any way. Which would include things like all of the back the blue flags, or flags that have the colors altered, like you see on many police cars now. All in violation of the US flag code
The parallels between that clause of the flag code and the Christian admonition to not worship idols is interesting. Both are intended to focus belief on an ideal instead of a symbol, and both get routinely ignored by their supposed most fervent followers.
It’s the same morons. Nazis are Christians. Adolph said so.
yup
Or presumably sign it in sharpie like Trump has
Yes, of course you're right, because it's what the U.S. Supreme Court said it is... Freedom of Expression, the same as Freedom of Speech! You don't have to like it, but if you can't respect the right to do it, (which no-one does anymore) you don't get what Democracy is all about. True Freedom!
They might arrest me for burning that foul rag that represents the country that has taken my body autonomy and right to vote and look to take more......I'll fucking wipe MY ASS after shitting. And fly it!
That EO Trump sent out about the flag doesn't mean jack shit. He thinks he's a king but he's just a clown.
lol
Of course but Republicans love to push emotional buttons and it usually works
EO's are not the law
Meaning you're not obligated to respect it If you comply, you're surrendering
Not to mention that burning flags creates jobs. 😉 So burn away. We'll just make more
I want to know when did his executive orders suddenly become law...in so much that law enforcement agencies treat it as absolute law.
his executive orders aren't worth the paper they're written on. He has zero authority to create laws
It’s not being exercised enough lately.
SCOTUS gave a determination on this years ago: Facts and case summary for Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989). Flag burning constitutes symbolic speech that is protected by the First Amendment.
I'm surprised there aren't hundreds of people out burning them tonight. (Maybe there are, and I haven't heard about it?)
This. www.youtube.com/watch?v=kepB...
So you actually don’t have a right to burn the flag. The only time you’re legally allowed to burn a flag is in a private setting. Burning a flag in public has always been illegal. We have flag laws that cover this.
You have no idea what you're talking about. The Supreme Court has repeatedly struck down the application of flag improper use or desecration laws on free speech grounds. Individual jurisdictions can pass such laws all day long, and they will always be unenforceable in a free country.
Oh btw I’m a vet and anyone who burns the flag without doing it properly for the right reasons doesn’t need put in jail They just need beat. Ok off you go now cry to mommy tell her the bad man was mean to you.
Well I do know what I’m talking about. Because instead of getting all enraged like a child and read what I said you might have got the point. It may very well be freedom of speech but there is no actual law that gives you the right to desecrate the flag in public. Ok back to mommies tit lil kid
Up there with shooting at cases of beer with an assault rifle.
I’ll bet flag burning is illegal in Cuba, Iran, and North Korea also.
Speak on it, Queen
I think of her as more like a really irritated Duchess
And have you seen what MAGA has done to the American flag? Disgraceful.
Totally agree with you. It’s tempting to push the boundary. It’s called freedom of speech.
old enough to remember being taught (in public school!) that the legality of that act was the essence of freedom of speech
Back when they were still allowed to teach the truth
Also, like, when's the last time you remember anyone doing it? We have real fake problems to worry about. Like China gaming the tiktok algorithm or whatever.
Simpsons did it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSAN...
A veteran did it outside of the white house today
Because of the executive order
All you have to do is let ONE network know it'll be happening on Friday and it will dominate the news cycle through the weekend and beyond.
Making the left defend Antonin Scalia’s jurisprudence and the rights of John Bolton, truly bleak times.
This isn’t a new opinion of mine and also suck my ass.
I was agreeing with you if it wasn’t clear sorry
I thought it was pretty clear!
Once you take it away it becomes about symbolic freedom triumphing over actual freedom in a pyrhic victory
This Trump supporter (who nonetheless voted for Jill Stein as the only anti-genocide candidate) agrees with you 100%.
It's settled law. Unless we truly have a dictator now, it's nothing to worry about compared to the other shit going on.
What’s going on?
Military in our streets, a justice department operating on the whims of a petulant wannabe dictator, a justice dept and an entire political party doing everything they can to protect pedophiles, openly trying to rig elections, a President who props up an actual dictator and war criminal, etc etc
Whoa!!!!
The executive order can’t outlaw flag burning, as the Supreme Court ruled it was free speech to do so. The executive order calls for investigating other crimes that ultimately involve burning the flag. Still not great, but someone would have to break a real law to get in trouble burning the flag.
Exactly.
There have been FOUR confirmed instances of American flag burnings during public protests in the continental U.S. so far in 2025.
It’s all about money and power to them. And they lie and cheat to try and get it.
Not many. All legal to do.
My hope is that hundreds of people show up to burn one in front of the White House. It's a protected form of free speech.
fwiw I agree. If adults cannot handle seeing a flag get burned, any flag, as a means of protest, they have some real deep issues. that doesn't mean they have to LIKE it, but it is incredibly basic right.
George Bush Sr. didn't care that much, even though he pretended major moral outrage. Calling Democrats or dissenters unpatriotic is just something we do for campaign purposes. 🇺🇸
My father was wounded in Normandy in 1944. NOTHING pissed him off more than someone telling him he fought “for the flag.” The flag’s not it, he said. He fought for the country. Not that I expect the bone spurs guy to understand that.
I’m gonna go home and burn an American flag tonight. I love my country. I hate this president.
It’s not a law. It’s trump spouting nonsense
💯 It's so symbolic of the constant tug of war between nationalism and individual liberty in this country. "Why is it ok to burn the flag?" Gets down to the very essence of what it means to be an American.
The EO does not say what the president said it says. You can still burn the flag
I remember a 90s Punisher comic book where the Punisher defends a man who is being confronted by an angry mob for burning the flag, as a marine and war veteran, he personally doesn't agree with it, but he felt morally strong enough to defend an innocent man's free speech.
You still have the right to burn a Canadian flag. That's pretty close, yeah?
I need a MAGA Trump flag bonfire.
As an aside, there's no law yet about burning a Trump flag. Yeah, you have to (ick) but one (hopefully a bootleg), but I could envisage that being an excellent placebo. AND not a single "centrist" can "tut tut" you about it. I agree w/ you fully, but I also see an OPP to kneecap what they're...
Trying to do with this in the first place. They want to make us look unamerican (basically he's stuck mentally back in the 70s with Nam protests) and if we burn something with his name on it instead, it takes the power away from them. Still burning, still defiant.
Although to me it's abhorrent,it's a guaranteed right of free speech . Oh by the way orange felon that's in the constitution and you have no right to overthrow the constitution
I agree with you.
I’ve never wanted to burn a flag, until now
I don't know about you but as soon as I heard about that EO I immediately wanted to go buy one and set it on fire
Same. Pretty sure I will at the next protest i attend
Burning an American flag is the proper way to dispose of one no longer serviceable. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_pr...
People fought for the right to be able to do that
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It is a piece of fabric, it is the people that make the heart and soul of the country.
Time to burn . As an act of free speech up held by supreme Court
Agreed. A beautiful act of resistance and a message to the world would be an organized mass burning in all 50 states. 🇺🇸🔥 A giant fuck you to his ridiculous orders and clear defiance.
It was “burn your bra” when I was young. I like your thinking.
Fire sends a unique message - then and now.
At this point in our history, we couldn't burn a Confederate Flag either.
The idea that the Executive Branch can alter your rights is preposterous. If he's allowed to enforce such an order, _that's_ the real damage, not the order itself. Let's see if he carries out this threat. Let's see if this causes more people to finally wake up.
In fact, the traditional method of disposing of a torn or worn out U.S. flag has long been to be retired by burning. www.defense.gov/News/Feature...
Too much emphasis on the Flag and National Anthem in the US. It's all fake. No one gives AF about a flag or a song that much. It's Russian behavior. If you're proud of your country, you know it in your heart and soul. You don't need symbols to prove it. Both should only be used for official events.
Burning it is protected under the First Amendment!! This, however, is NOT!!! THIS IS AMERICAN FLAG DESICRATION
It’s not about correctly disposing a flag guys.
It's pointing out the irony
At least you know that 😂
Ummmmm actually we have norms in this country. 🤓
Supreme Court adjudicated this issue in 1989. Burning a flag is protected speech. Donald Trump is not a king. Donald Trump is a clown.
"You are going to beat the charge, but nobody beats the ride."
you’re right, nothing bad will ever happen. Whew!
Maybe in DC he can break the law, but I live in Chicago. #TACO
What will happen there if he comes?
Trump is way too scared to ever fuck with Chicago. He's a coward, as well as a traitor to the United States.
Don't worry, I don't think he'll be going there himself.
He's also scared of J.B. Pritzker, who is richer and smarter than he is, and has zero fear of taking on Trump's bullshit.
J.B. Pritzker: “Donald Trump, if you hurt my people, nothing will stop me. Not time or political circumstance, from making sure you face justice.”
And how will him being scared of Governor Pritzker help the situation?
But what would happen?
Well you guys don’t have the home rule issue. I don’t fucking understand this attitude or what peoples fucking problem is.
Oh so fuck us then right? OK. What an asshole.
Was unaware you lived in DC. I know about home rule situation in DC; Trump handing out firearms to the National Guard still likely violated Posse Comitatus, we'll see what lawsuits are filed. Trump is trying to turn the U.S. into a dictatorship right in front of our eyes; I'm grateful I live in IL.
I was in high school when the Supreme Court ruled it was a First Amend right. I remember when Fox News was losing it over how many EO's that damn Obama was signing. Now this dolt signs an EO that counters a SCOTUS ruling.
Stupid is as stupid does. If we don't have the civil rights attorneys all over this already settled matter, we ALL deserve a prison term for allowing this to drag out so cowardly long. Thank you for stating it again. Following illegal orders is also illegal.
I don't mean to brag, but I try to be generous with the ACLU. I feel it's a good organization. I know, there are a lot of organizations that need our support, and growing all the time. Think Planned Parenthood and PBS, for just a couple examples.
I've known all the flag rules my whole life. Almost everything about the flag has been desecrated, in this country, by performative stunts and people trying to be seen as walking advertisements 🇺🇸
How about the right to hang it upside down. Like Martha Ann Alito did.
How about change the number of stars? Me I'm getting rid of Mississippi. Hell, they've always wanted to secede anyway but they need the welfare checks.
Think we should hold a national flag burning day. 🔥 Do think Confederate ones should get torched first. How to mess with the enforcers.
EOs cannot create new criminal law. It’s not worth the paper it is signed on.