Ukraine would be open to withdrawing from Donetsk region in exchange for a full Russian withdrawal from Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions, WSJ claims. This information is unconfirmed and not in line with recent statements by Zelensky, who said Ukraine would not cede territory.
This would bear at least some advantage for Ukraine in terms of territory, but I'm sure Putin would never agree, because this way russia would lose the land bridge to Crimea. So maybe offering this could be a smart move at some point, to show that russia is unwilling to make real concessions.
America can cede Brighton Beach to Putin. They've already given him the White House.
Actually, nice offer by Zelensky. Will never happen, of course. Putin wants to go all the way to Moldova and Romania. And, of course, there's the water supply issue for Crimea. But the offer makes Zelensky look like a negotiator and Trump will like this.
Pres. Zelenskyy has issued a firm statement to the contrary: www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025...
what about crimea?? fuck putin
Putin is unlikely to agree to fully withdraw from Kherson because that would sever his critical land bridge to Crimea and threaten the supply of freshwater. Likewise Zaporizhzhia, because he wants the Zaporizhzhia NPP to supply power to Crimea.
President Zelenskyy has said NO www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025...
Maybe, maybe not: bsky.app/profile/noel...
How about “Nyet, Vlad”? Ukraine wants its 2014 Border back now. What’s in it for your buddy Trump, the worst negotiator in the world? #TheArtOfTheKneel
Only to stop the slaughter, I would offer Ukraine everything but Donetsk and Luhansk, and make those neutral, with a UN protectorate for 5 years, after which a free, outside-observed election is held to decide a final outcome.
At which point crimea becomes unsustainable( no water)
War criminal Putin wants all of Ukraine, not just Donetsk.
the more zelensky stands tall the more his leverage grows ... djt wants a win make him work for it
2. Option A. Trump is meeting with Putin so he can get a fresh set of instructions on two issues: how to prolong the war in Ukraine while still looking tough on Russia. And further advice on how to end US democracy. Option B. More useful deflection from the Epstein affair. And all three may apply.
1. Given the reporting we've now had on the "misunderstanding" that Steve "Witless" conveyed to Trump about what Putin was offering (which was: nothing new), it'd seem 100% certain no deal can be done. So the question is, why the meeting? Two scenarios - not mutually exclusive (see next comment)...
This is so dumb. Feels like the US officials are spreading misinformation on purpose just to get Putin out of russia to Alaska so they can assassinate him properly, but that kind of scenario would be way too optimistic to be real. It’s all just a waste of time as usual.
If so then with a demilitarised zone at the “border” with multinational western contingents on one hand and Indians on the other and no limit to Ukrainian armed forces
There is, of course, no evidence at all that russia has offered to withdraw from anywhere.
Plus joining NATO or Putin will do it all over again in few years.
Realistically, I think, for Ukraine the challenge is to make sure that Trump doesn’t blame them for “collapse” of negotiations. So play a hardline in public whilst offering “reasonable” compromises that they know there is no way that Russia will sign up to.
Yes. Psyops is an important battlefield, one which ruzzia excels at and has dominated for a long time. But Ukrainians are very familiar with the terrain on that front...
Perhaps they can cut a deal if Russia turns Kursk over to Ukraine.
This SHOULD end one way: Russia leaves entirely to pre-2014 situation. Bad juju if he’s allowed to keep one meter of stolen land. Precedent. #krasnov is really inviting pootie to American soil (Alaska)?! Fuck #epsreintrump in his fake-shot ear. #justiceforVirginia Slava 🇺🇦
I a just world yes. But thats not reality. Russia is still moving forward, and Ukraine cant find the troops they would need for big offensives. (Because millions left the country already).
That’s why Europe needs to sack up. Military blue balls is no way to win a war. In or out? Victory or nah?
Ideally, we should have issued russia an ultimatum to leave Ukraine or face war with European nations already. If putin allowed any sort of gains from this, we will eventually have war anyway.
You don't need many troops - only bombs and drones.
Why would he make concessions before the failed talks even start?
He hasn't and in fact said NO www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025...
That was my point, the contradiction in reports.
Usually teams are already active making preparations for these talks beforehand, you don’t start negotiating from scratch at the summit.
We know.
The WSJ print anything they throw at them.
Trump-Putin summit will be turnover ceremony for return of Alaska to Russia in exchange for total and lasting peace in Ukraine
The idea of a swap may not be without merit. I suggest Ukraine offer to return what they control in Kursk to obtain St Petersburg and Moscow. Putin seems to like lopsided bargaining.
WSJ is owned by orc war criminal supporter. Large number of real reporters quit that now MAGA toilet paper recently.
No way Donetsk is far more heavy populated. Massive mineral wealth is also in Donetsk. No rewards of any kind for invasion of Ukraine.
Why the fuck would they ever cede territory? everyone knows it leads to further aggression.
It might make sense under very rigid conditions but I don't believe the report.
This is why real negotiations need to happen behind closed doors so that negotiators can talk about radical proposals without people and politicians sabotaging things. This is absolutely a non-starter, but negotiators still need to be able to talk about it.