I’m surprised this clown of a writer can even spell MLB let alone baserunner.
I’m surprised this clown of a writer can even spell MLB let alone baserunner.
emotional click bait… they know it’s the opposite & those who know baseball may click it just to read the absurdity of the article.
Nope. Rickey was the goat. He had me so stressed out watching . I was a Blue Jays fan in the early 90s. Rickey gave me anxiety. lol ..
He was the Boat. Best Of All Time. Goat means failure.
Ok. I’ll bite. So who is his greatest base-runner/stealer, if not Henderson?
Excuse me....WHAT??
Who the suggest was???? Babe Ruth?!?!?
I call them the N.Y. Post-Relevancy for a reason!
Didn’t read this crap. Who did they argue was the best?
Define greatest base runner. I call it the guy who can get to the next base without a hit.
NO!
Literally just looked this up. No one will ever catch up to him in so many of his records.
Should be just called Murdoch News.
Everyone knows Donald Trump stole at least twice as many bases, hit over 1000 home runs, turned at least 20 unassisted triple plays from center field, and never committed a fielding error in his MLB career. /s
It’s unbelievable!
Yeah, I saw this but didn’t bother reading it. Asinine.
How is Phil Mushnick still a thing
The New York Post could fuck up a wet dream
🙄🙄🙄🙄 pathetic
It's the NY Post...if they get anything right it's by accident.
Why? What’s the point of writing an article like this?
Just more Racist Normalizing
Dumb as a “Post”…see what I did there?!😏😏😏
The White racist is so jealous of a great player. R.I.P. Rickey.
Well, still, he was awfully good...
Credible source claims that Hunter Biden leading base stealer. Comer investigating
give anyone a paid column and they have to fill up the column inches, even if it is pure and utter shit
deadspin.com/your-regular...
Beyond stupid.
A phenomenal athlete dies and the headline reads like he quit after his rookie season?! The writer is a piece of shit! Henderson ALWAYS performed like a demigod!
Not Equal Time… Dumb Time!
"he was no angel" type behavior
"Running Game" "Far from the best base runner" Ummm....they need to explain more of that line.
Yeah that banning gender affirming care wont kill 1.2 million ppl at least.
Who did they rank # 1? David Ortiz?
what a pos paper unreal
I always thought Vince Coleman was better. I know it's a hot take but I am a fan of the National League back then.
Vince Coleman is one of my favorite players all-time. Willie McGee is my favorite player of all-time. Ozzie Smith right there with em. As great of a stealing threat VC was, he never reached Rickey status. Rickey led the league in steals 12 times, runs 5 times and still leads MLB in both all-time.
Maury Wills was a good base stealer,
I don’t know why you do this to yourself. Of course they’re gonna come up with the most garbage can opinion. The premise of that article is laughable.
He does hold the record for being caught stealing
He stole 460 more bases successfully than anyone else ever so he was running the risk a lot. This is like the turnover argument for NBA stats (stupid)
Is FG% stupid as well? Score 50 points but take 200 shots?
That's like saying white cars are involved in more accidents than blue cars. Go look at the career stolen base leaders and tab over to stolen base attempts and you'll see the list doesn't change much. www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/SB_c...
So whoever gets on base the most is the best base runner?
Nope. I think the best baserunners are those who put themselves in the best position to score and to be a distraction to the pitcher. To do that, you've got to be able to take risks. Sometimes when you take risks, you lose.
And how often you lose is a metric to measure success
It's behind their paywall so I can't check, but I'm assuming they're trying to promote someone white instead.
I think Cobb’s the only one you could really argue. I also think you’d be wrong.
It doesn't matter. Cobb is so far below Ricky that it's just asinine.
I don’t disagree.
"Ricky wasn't as good as Patches McGurney of the Akron Groomsmen" [footage of a baseball game from 1921 where everyone is moving 20% faster than they actually were]
What effing baseball were they watching? Good lord.
Well it’s the ny post. Everything and anything they publish is nonsense.
RH is as important to baseball as Babe Ruth.
More like mush dick
Yeah, he wasn’t even close to being the greatest baserunner. This is either revisionist history or lazy analysis or both.
What a dickhead article both to write and publish right now.
The Post is a tabloid. They are absolutely awful and have zero morals
Was the article posted a week after the man died? Are we fucking kidding? @nypost.com
Phil mush mouth is a rage bait POS that probably has never seen a pitch he didn’t ask for circa 1870’s
Rickey don’t like headlines that lie about Rickey.
But the only thing they get right is the date usually.
Its Phil. He has been dropping bad takes since the 80's
I remember listening to the Scooter in my car on Yankee’s baseball, screaming that Ricky was stealing bases. Before he went to Oakland he was a Yankees star. NYP can go 🤬 themselves.
He was a star in Oakland before the Yankees.
Yeah forgot about that. I knew him from his time in the Yankees en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickey_...
That’s right. Hulk Hogan and Ted Nugent were the best.
You can't spell "Mushnick" without shmuck
Who writes this shit there ?!
3) Rickey Henderson 2) Jim Gantner And the greatest baserunner of all-time: Freddie Patek
No one was cashier on the basepaths as Freddie. Master of the delayed steal.
Did Patek steal more bases? Base runner doesn’t seem the same as being the king of stolen bases, is that what it means??
Up is down and down is UP with the Post. It's not a newspaper, its a RAG/Tabloid. Rickey Henderson IS the Greatest Base Runner/Stealer of all time. "MAN OF STEAL"
Rosie, you are insulting tabloids by calling Murdoch's money-losing vanity project one. LOL!
I watched that game. Yup, he earned it.
Years ago, the NY Post had a sense of humor. Coverage was mostly crime, sports and gossip. Then Murdoch bought it. Every day on the front page is now just a variation of "Biden is the worst president ever!!!" Just a Maga rage machine now.
Worst baseball post
Their next headline...the Devil is actually an OK dude.
Keep in mind that NY Post is a Murdoch publication and racism is part of its wheelhouse. If Ricky were white, NY Post would recognize him as one of the greatest, if not THE greatest, players.
He was the best!
Rickey 100% is, though Honus Wagner did succeed 96% of the time he tried to steal a base. He just tried 1000 times less than Rickey
They think Drumpf is the most masculine man alive, so consider the source. #SDE
He’s the Biggest Man Baby ever. Flabby, bald and limping with his pee bag strapped to his leg. U will never see his pale scrawny chicken legs in public #taco man!
Ya know I had to actually see if that was real. I couldn’t believe those idiots would have wrote something so stupid. He was the outright best base stealer the MLB ever had and holds the record for the most runs scored as well. Every time he was on any base he was a threat to steal, even Home Base.
What a trash rag the post is
Wonder what white guy they think it is
The fact that people even read the NY post is what's interesting to me🙄
You don't have to even acknowledge Mushnick anymore. He's behind a paywall.
Stopped years ago because of “columnists”like Mushnick.
Never bought the Post. Terrible comics selection. It was the Daily Newz and Newsday for me in the 80s.
The NY Post is the Mean Girls of “news”.
Clearly An A🤬🤬HOLE WHO NEVER WATCHED A BASEBALL ⚾️ GAME..
He was the premier base running of his time. The NY Post is a racist rag of lies and hate.
Greatest ever to steal a base!!! No question about it!!
All these people who are upset clearly never saw John Kruk run.
hmm, point taken...
Despicable take. Blasphemy
“Let me tell you about Terrence Gore”
let's say that is true. WHY do you write this after the man's death?
It's a Rupert M publication so the answer is no, there's nothing they can't fuck up (regrettably, most of my novels were published by HarperCollins and that cocksucker owns it too)
The really ugly part is that they waited to post this 'lie' (I'm trying to be nice) after he dies to sell papers/get clicks
I always thought Phil Mushnick's column should have been called "I Hate Everything."
I remember he was the premiere baserunner in my day. If you want to say he isnt the GOAT of baserunning, that's fine. But this headline is asinine.
I equate the NY Post with The National Enquirer. I wouldn't wipe my ass with either of them.
It does make a good bird cage liner also
Truthfully that is the only thing both are good for
In his time, when he played, YES HE WAS! We could argue ad nauseam aboutwhen exactly was the greatest rea for stolen bases and prove exactly nothing, In his time, however, no onr did it better
You just shared their content. Their mission was achieved.
WTF, is Viveck Ramaswami writing sports reviews now?
Contrarian journalism at its worst it’s not coy it’s just being an ass
The next closest is like 500 stolen bases away
...and no one thought Lou Brock's record would be broken either!
No one said it wouldn't be broken? ....... 🤔
The NY Post is a rag and always has been.
This is thexsame gang of idiots who cast the USA-England game at the 2010 World Cup as: USA beats England 1-1.
Murdoch owns the Post. Expect bulls#it.
Click bait with😱shocked headlines. Nothing to see. Liken to “Territorial Expansion” spin instead of “Senile Vengeful Fool mouthing off again”
Mushnick is a clown
No, clearly, they are trying to be the wrongest
Why would this even be necessary to write
Its click bait. It's the sleaziest form of journalism.
Not sure I'd even call it journalism
This is blasphemy.
They realize Rickey was a Yankee at one point, right? They should be glazing him, too!
Yeah but Beltrán played for both NY teams (I didn't read the article to see if the argument is only base stealing success rate, because both of my grandfathers' ghosts would haunt me if I clicked through to the Post.)
I have a theory that they pivoted internally to posting rage bait articles as a way to get more clicks.
"pivoted"?
I watch baseball when Ricky Henderson was in the game. I know about Ricky Henderson's game. They don't know anything about baseball!
Well... Maury Wills was kinda spectacular too
Vince Coleman’s the only guy who came even close to Rickey’s production over just a short period of time, and he fell off a cliff in terms of base stealing after a handful of years
Who’s better? No one!
Phil Mushnick taking over the grumpy old man thrown from Murray Chass.
Big mistake to expect anything remotely resembling the truth from any alleged news source owned by Rupert Murdoch. Rickey's loss is huge. He was amazing. I used to watch the As practice on the UC Berkeley field during study breaks!
Him dying doesn't change baseball. You know he retired long ago, right?
Huh? not sure what you are getting at?
That his loss isn't huge.
There are lots of ways to experience loss. Huge doesn't necessarily mean a sea change of an industry.
Same. Got to meet him twice and he was delightful. NY Post is a garbage fire anyway. Fitting that he should pass the same year we lose our beloved Athletics.
Yup sadly these dumb assholes can not find the rock or the bottom they deffo smoke exhaust PIPEs in the meantime between the angry headlines
Well, Ricky wa
I refused to click through this, but this feels like an article designed to celebrate Joe DiMaggio or Mickey Mantle. But it is insanely wrong, like saying the US doesn’t have the biggest GDP or Usain Bolt isn’t the fastest ever.
Nope. The New York Post has dedicated its entire publication history to being 100% wrong 100% of the time.
Pure tabloid shit...
Ran well enough to cross the plate 2295 times, more than anyone else ever.
Great stat!
The Post has been getting things wrong for most of the 20th century. Might as well start on the 21st.
Pretty sure that no one reads Mushnick any more.
So did they say who was a better base stealer or did they just make a statement without any research. As usual
This guy must fucking hate baseball…or black players
Just flat out wrong.
Phil Muschnick is a terrible person who writes articles like these so he can get into arguments with people he hates.
This might be the wrongest headline I’ve ever seen. Weekly World News feature on Bat Boy was more accurate
They're just idiots. Rickey could have stolen the pitchers mound and still been safe. He was that good...
It’s Mushnick, the “get off my lawn” columnist…
I mean, why? Now? Stupid.
Had @mlb.com not gotten rid of Black players, there would be more Ricky Henderson's. That's why it's now behind the NBA and the NFL.
I bet they’re saying Pete Rose or Mickey Mantle.
Having seen Ricky lead off on a base hit, steal second, then third, and finally score on a pop fly to the right field ... there was no one better at manufacturing an offense.
NY POST racism has no bounds it's PRAVDA on steroids.
The New York Post is only good for potty-training puppies.
Nope. They fuck everything up.
Every Writer For That Piece Of Shit Newspaper Never Knows What They Are Talking About Especially Since They Think That The Criminal Trump Can Do No Wrong.
oh please
Sports writers are the absolute most useless form of journalism. Watch the game, enjoy the sport, I don’t need anyone to do anything more than that.
Good sports writing is a beautiful thing, it’s just extremely rare.
At first I agreed with you Then, I had countering thoughts
You are certainly welcome to your thoughts.
The New York Post could fuck up a wet dream.
Greatest I ever saw.
Since '82 Phil is a guy who has not left his home, just monitoring TV/radio sports for Murdoch's money-losing Post. Repeating the same column ideas for years, all he does is change the names with special vitriol for people of color. Now behind a paywall no one has to read his hack rants again.
One more thing. Did Mushnick mention in his column any of the live comments on the MLB Network by friends & former teammates of Rickey? (There were heartfelt stories.) Did he go over the stats? My 3 most fearful MLB players are Rickey, Willie & Rose. All they would do was beat you.
NYPs main audience is ragebait junkie conservatives.
You nailed it.
We were friends with Maury Wills. I think he was a much better base runner than Ricky Henderson.
For people who are not from NY, this article is written by Phil Mushnick, a man entrenched in the early 1950s. this is not a legitimate critique: Ricky was a black man, which, to Mushnick, means nothing he ever did can equal the feats of white men.
It takes conscious effort.
That's classic clickbait. The murdoch editorial policy.
Modern media business model: let’s drive consumers away.
Wow. Just... freaking wow. Guy led the league in steals at age 39. Greatest leadoff hitter ever. Changed the way the game was played for two decades....
These are the same idiots who have ruined baseball by their emphasis on launch angle and exit velocity which has led to more strikeouts, one dimensional emphasis on home runs and fewer players who know how to advance a runner.
You’re giving Mushnick too much credit. He’s just a bitter old man who says provocative things just to get a reaction from people
I can’t believe they printed that. They must have ZERO sports reporters.
Phil Mushnick is a notoriously moronic “reporter”.
Why do it now, also? Just crass.
Guessing they said Babe Ruth was better.
Rupert Murdoch owned paper. I’m sure their guy is white.
This is just click bait. There isn't a single person who appreciates baseball and saw Ricky Henderson play that would say he was a"far" from the greatest base runner. That is basically = to stating he was overrated. Writer loses all credibility with the headline.
The Post is a conservative organ, and he was Black. They can't let him be best at anything.
The headline must be sarcasm. Ricky wasn't just a good base stealer he was a great all around base runner. He rarely got picked off or thrown out on the bases.
Well, only boomers watch baseball...
It's all part of the act. They post stupid stuff like this in order to rage bait and get people to argue with them and boost their posts. No one who knows anything takes them seriously.....
How did Jim Rice have more career triples than Rickey? Makes no sense except Rickey was dogging it.
What does triples stat mean exactly? Fenway has a tricky outfield and a center that went 420 plus feet. Fenway is near the top for parks that have the highest triples factor. You can’t compare player’s stats without taking into account all factors.
Good try but I believe Rickey should’ve had way more than Rice.
This is such a bullsh*t heading I followed Ricky during his career He was a gift to the game and it's fans A privilege to watch He was never called best baserunner Best leadoff hitter yes and true Stolen base all time yes and true Baserunner? No. PM has to create things to be negative about. Loser
I would say he is undeniably the greatest base runner in the history of the sport. What do you expect from that rag, though.
Not sure if MLB stats go back very far, but if the measuring stick is base running then you would need to include: Beating out a DP Bunt base hits Scoring from 2B on a single Inside the park HRs Also: Henderson - 80.8% success Raines - 84.7% success www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/stol...
New York Post are the dumbest fucks ever. Stats don’t lie, Rickey was the greatest. Period.
Like they say,”consider the source.”
I mean, what is this even about the nerve of people picking on dead people that can’t defend themselves. How can you possibly be?
Consider the source. Trash writer in a trash publication.
maybe running isn't involved in stealing bases, is that Mushnick's take? probably doesn't involve being the greatest leadoff hitter, either the only 'far' thing about Rickey is how far he was ahead of anyone else...and how far behind any current player might be
My guess is they are going by success %. He's 69th in that.
did into the stats and there's all kinds of stuff...some of which doesn't necessarily compute to on-field results for the comparison expressed...Munch's angle only 3 other players even have half the attempts as Rickey, which reveals his ability to get on base and in play baseball IS the stat sport
I mean it's the NY Post.. clickbaity bullshit is kinda their bread and butter.
It’s the fact that they’re even commenting on his ability that’s hideous Man’s died ffs
this is their version of getting an answer to a question by posting a dumb wrong answer and waiting for people to correct it.
I fondly remember their "Exclusive" scoop about how then Prince Charles was the most likely successor to Queen Elizabeth II
ALWAYS tearing things down.
Amazing that Phil Mushnick is still going. Wrong for 40 plus years.
His job was to get on base and he was good at it
Henderson would get on base with a walk or cheap single, then he'd steal second, then get home on a stretch single. That was the Rickey.
If he didn't steal 3rd & possibly home.
He also led off the game with a solo HR a whole lot.
That one might be within reach. www.mlb.com/news/most-ca...
I think the NYP buisness model is put out ridiculous headlines that generate controversy and thats how they get attention
No.
Lunacy
It's Phil Mushnick, no one should be surprised. He's the possessor of a deeply unserious intellect.
Mushnick gonna Mushnick
This is just click bait. He has for years earned his living by being a nasty contrarian.
Yeah, its gotta be some white boy somewhere.