Does this look like success to you? Even Zelensky is quoted here as saying EU guarantees of security without the US are worthless. www.theguardian.com/world/2025/f...

They’ve been a bit slow but I think by now they have the picture. Which is that the US is their enemy not their friend. Collectively, they can hurt Trump’s dictatorship. They’re not all going there to be nice to him.

Your take from that article is that they've been "a bit slow"? The EU has handed Ukraine's future to the US. Even now, there is no cohesive EU strategy towards Ukraine, but individual EU countries offer varying degrees of support.

It’s an evolving situation. You’d agree that this meeting is not same old same old. Everyone in the Oval Office at once looks cohesive to me.

Those are the optics, and many strong words will flow, but actions and follow up have been lacking in recent history.

Totally agree with you there. Millions of us are following this closely. Meanwhile in Aotearoa NZ our Prime Minister is so lazy and useless that he couldn’t be bothered to join a virtual meeting with the EU delegation because it was at 1-2am NZT and he had a meeting in the morning. Shameful 🤬

Dervish, some people aren’t happy unless they’re miserable.

Misery is the conservatives way of life in America. And they feel obligated to try and spread it throughout the rest of the country. And they all can just fuck the hell right off! I’m happy and I know it and there ain’t a magaT anywhere that can change that. EVER