If you would like to test this hypothesis, Go ahead and travel to a Right To Work state in the US, get a factory job, and tell me how much you made after a single year.
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Right, people romanticize factory jobs but what they actually want is the effects of having a labor union bargaining for you, which they won’t get because the places they would put these hypothetical plants would be right to work
apr 14, 2025, 2:04 am • 18 2 • view
And also a job where you can make a decent living without an expensive college degree It ties in with the perception (right or wrong) that the USA has lost the ability to build things, or is in danger of doing so
apr 14, 2025, 3:09 am • 2 0 • view
This is legitimately a problem, I agree. Manufacturing jobs were not historically necessarily poorly paid compared to other jobs (labour laws, unions etc) That is a consequence of outsourcing acting as competition and weakened labour bargaining power.
apr 14, 2025, 6:08 am • 0 0 • view
Welcome back, Rhys. If you believe that manufacturing jobs were "not historically necessarily poorly paid compared to other jobs", you're wrong AGAIN. Remember, in 1914 Henry Ford had to DOUBLE his employees wages to "5$", because his own employees couldn't afford his product.
apr 14, 2025, 11:55 am • 0 0 • view
So, let's see what Ford was actually paying his workers in today's money. Show me a single factory job in this country that pays that for it's WORKERS. Once again, feel free to come back here once you've actually WORKED in one of these places.
apr 14, 2025, 11:57 am • 0 0 • view
Your ignorance on this matter which you choose to speak with authority, without having seemingly any real world experience in this issue really fucking disturbs me. I'm only 36, and you're clearly much older. Yet your age has gifted you only fantasies, while I'm unfortunately awash with reality.
apr 14, 2025, 12:00 pm • 0 0 • view
Steady, I've spent a two decade career in manufacturing, often in automotive and adjacent industries. I'm in the UK so perhaps the US is different, but in my experience, auto & aero paid well compared to comparative jobs for school leavers, & competitive even today with say retail or logistics.
apr 14, 2025, 12:42 pm • 0 0 • view
You being in the UK currently explains why you sounded completely daft before. I would recommend you spend some time and read up on the realities of how America has historically treated it's workers. "America will do everything but the right thing, until it's tried everything else" rings so true.
apr 14, 2025, 1:35 pm • 0 0 • view
Gonna leave you with little "trick" I've learned between college, being a veteran, and moving all over this country and working in various factories and other industries. Find out how much the Boss makes compared to the Janitor, and you'll get a good grasp on their real priorities.
apr 14, 2025, 12:05 pm • 0 0 • view
And, if at your age you can't fully grasp what that means, come back here and I'll explain it. Promise.
apr 14, 2025, 12:06 pm • 0 0 • view
And please take note of how factory workers are treated and spoken to by some of their bosses
apr 14, 2025, 3:13 am • 0 0 • view