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Uneasy Writer @uneasywriter.bsky.social

I’m not sure what “vandalism” you’re talking about.

jul 4, 2025, 4:30 pm • 0 0

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Bill Hayden @billhayden65.bsky.social

Mainly the weird revisionist shit they did to the spelling for no reason. Then there was all that verbing that happened more recently; verbing weirds language.

jul 4, 2025, 4:33 pm • 0 0 • view
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Becca @beccastevens.bsky.social

You need to talk to a competent linguist about this. It’s not “revisionist” that people speaking the same language on a whole other continent naturally developed different spellings and word usage. That’s just how living languages work.

jul 4, 2025, 8:00 pm • 3 1 • view
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Uneasy Writer @uneasywriter.bsky.social

That wasn’t done for no reason. In the early days of the colonies, spelling conventions weren’t entirely set yet. As time went on, spelling words like colour here as “color” became the accepted way. What do you mean by “verbing words”?

jul 4, 2025, 4:38 pm • 0 0 • view
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Bill Hayden @billhayden65.bsky.social

What was the problem with colour, plough, connexion etc?

Calvin and Hobbes cartoon explaining how nouns get turned into verbs, and how this is strange.
jul 4, 2025, 4:48 pm • 1 0 • view
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TKarney @pecunium.bsky.social

What was the reason to keep vowels Americans weren’t pronouncing (and lots of Brits don’t either)? As to spelling I know how to pronounce Chomondley, Featherstonehaugh, and St. Jean. Conversions change, which isn’t vandalism.

jul 4, 2025, 5:02 pm • 1 0 • view
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TKarney @pecunium.bsky.social

(To be fair I am good at dialects, and pronunciation, but was still confused the first time I saw my friend Sinjin’s name spelled out, esp as his family was SE Asian)

jul 4, 2025, 5:04 pm • 2 0 • view
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Bill Hayden @billhayden65.bsky.social

Oh yes; there's a lot of English orthography that has become quite opaque... but "sinjin" being spelt 'St John' makes the etymology pretty apparent. That's got to be worth something.

jul 4, 2025, 5:07 pm • 0 0 • view
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Bill Hayden @billhayden65.bsky.social

Going from colour to 'color' isn't phoneticisation. If anything it'd be 'kulir', which ... I could embrace after a fashion. There are etymological clues within spelling that are lost if you just ... revise it. And I think that's a shame. You may disagree.

jul 4, 2025, 5:05 pm • 0 0 • view
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TKarney @pecunium.bsky.social

Your parochialism is a you problem.

jul 4, 2025, 5:06 pm • 0 0 • view
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Bill Hayden @billhayden65.bsky.social

Where do they say 'color'? I've spent a long time in the United States, mainly up and down the east coast, but never have I heard anyone say 'color'... unless they were saying 'collar'.

jul 4, 2025, 5:08 pm • 0 0 • view
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TKarney @pecunium.bsky.social

Except that those letter groups don’t actually map the way you think they do (which has now’t to do with what is parochial in your outlook, though perhaps chauvinism is the better wordchoice) logicballs.com/tools/ipa?re...

jul 4, 2025, 5:31 pm • 0 0 • view
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Bill Hayden @billhayden65.bsky.social

I think I understand how phonemes work thanks. The AI model has been trained on the same preconceptions you've got. You can't be surprised when it gives the same answers. Tell you what; I'll throw you a bone... one's trying to be Latin and one's trying to be French.

jul 4, 2025, 5:46 pm • 0 0 • view
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Uneasy Writer @uneasywriter.bsky.social

I’m sorry, what? I don’t know what you mean.

jul 4, 2025, 5:19 pm • 0 0 • view
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Bill Hayden @billhayden65.bsky.social

Well what would the pronunciation guide be for 'color', or for that matter 'colour'? Because I'm finding /ˈkʌlər/. So 'color' is no closer to it than 'colour' is. That's the thing that never made sense to me in Webster's orthography.

jul 4, 2025, 5:22 pm • 0 0 • view
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Uneasy Writer @uneasywriter.bsky.social

It’s not that deep.

jul 4, 2025, 5:23 pm • 1 0 • view
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Uneasy Writer @uneasywriter.bsky.social

What? What parochialism are you talking about? Why are you trying to start a fight here.

jul 4, 2025, 5:21 pm • 0 0 • view
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Uneasy Writer @uneasywriter.bsky.social

There’s nothing “wrong” with any of those spellings. They’re just British.

jul 4, 2025, 5:20 pm • 0 0 • view