“vote blue no matter who” is a singularly reprehensible slogan which should become immediately apparent under even the merest examination and the fact that it was allowed to become a genuine cry from so many is an incredible condemnation of liberal america
3 presidential elections I’ve heard this chant and it is so utterly offensive, dismissive and it didn’t even work.
It did work. When people voted for Biden we didn't get Trump. We also got a lot of great legislation.
Covid is the reason people came out and voted for Biden. Not because they wanted him. They just knew Trump was doing a bad job. Biden also did a bad job but it was minimally better. And what legislation do you mean? All the legislation that people had to fight and fight for? Never codified?
i keep repeating it to myself and marvelling at how anything so egregiously fucked up could ever have become something people literally say with their chest. the more you go over it, the more insane and just plain wrong it sounds. it’s just so brazen
i mean *even if* you believed it and intended to do it, how could you say it, how could you admit to the politicians how much of your power and independent thought you were handing them, why wouldn’t you keep that buried
Its like you have never heard of primary elections
Oh, when exactly did Kamala Harris win a primary?
Millions heard what they were really saying was "vote blue no matter genocide." RIPiss, Dumbs.
Thank you! 👏🏻 This is what I’ve been saying for years! We need to be electing people not a party ideology. Like we all plugged our nose to vote for Biden & the Democrats to stop this mess and instead they choose to run the country on a weak infrastructure bill and enable genocide.
the rally cry of people for who politics is their first team sport
And, that is why Trump is president and Johnson is Speaker and ...We need to vote blue to save the ability to vote.
we must save the ability to vote…it just doesn’t matter who we are free to vote for.
💯💯💯 Well said, Chris. By espousing #VoteBlueNoMatterWho, Dems confirm they'll accept/embrace any crappy Dem Pol No Matter What. No matter how Crappy Dem Pol policies are, Dem voters will Blindly Vote Blue No Matter Who. Dems are such Loyal True Blue Soldiers. #DemExit #Sheep #BlindLoyalty
This is how we got Donnie 2 Dolls, twice. Millions of Dems deciding that unless their candidate was on the ballot for prez, they'd just stay home and pout. There's a generation out there that were never told no and given trophies when they LOST. If they don't get their way, they turnover the board.
it’s the most politically stupid thing you could ever say to anyone in power
You're either with the fascist theocracy or you're against it. I'll go with those who are against it, no matter who.
i agree, you’re either with the fascist theocracy or you’re against it. stop being with it
....you seem confused
you seem ignorant and uninformed
do you have any idea how old american fascism is?
Meanwhile, here in reality, there are only two sides to this fight. One side has been warning about trump for years, and nazis dont support or like them. I'll go with the side who warned us and who the nazis dont like.
Neither of those sides is fighting for the people though, so let’s make a new side.
maybe don’t base your decisions on the political judgments of american nazis, they’re not known for their astute readings of any playing field
Oh, I would disagree. Basing my political decisions on what nazis do is really common sense. You go with what the nazis want eradicated. That's Democrats, liberals, anyone who isn't like them. So I'll continue to base my political opinion on what they do and dislike. Thanks for your opinion
no shit you disagree, if you agreed we wouldn’t be having this conversation. but you’re wrong and that’s why you’re fucking up
Yeah. Im wrong for basing my political opinion on what nazis are doing. You're special. People like you are why we're ruled by nazis now. Because youre too dumb to realize theres only two sides in a fight against nazis. Its weird to have to explain that to an adult.
you literally haven’t even understood what i’ve said, there is literally nothing the likes of you could ever “explain” to me because you lack the wherewithal to
do you think that if you say wrong shit with more conviction and in a more self-righteous tone that it stops being wrong shit?
go ahead, repeat yourself again, with just as little understanding of my point as every other time. say the word nazi as many times as you can in a sentence and see if that changes anything, dipshit. god, there really is just no hope for vast swathes of you, is there
if a moron chooses to eat a mushroom it is neither an indication that it is safe to eat or that it is not. it’s irrelevant info. the fact that u.s. nazis are less fond of one than another is as useless an indicator of whether either has anyone’s best interests at heart as a moron eating a mushroom
Lol "less fond" is a nice reduction of fact. And your mushroom drivel was a silly strawman.
it’s not a strawman, is an analogy. that’s where you use an unrelated example with the same logical structure as the point you’re making in order to illustrate your meaning through a correspondence between the relational set up of the two ideas, so that the objects in each stand in for one another
Lol same logical structure. Sure it is pal.
Enjoy Trump, kiddo.
i’m sorry, i repent 😞
*this saying not applicable to Zohran Mamdani
It's basic game theory In a zero sum dichotomy, where one option is a literal existential threat, the other option has no standards to live up to besides being a slightly better version of the other The Dems could literally run George Bush, and if we didn't vote for him, then we "deserve" fascism
The DNC is playing us
Let. Him. Cook.
and what’s being revealed is it’s actually “Vote Blue No Matter Who”* * = actively undermine anyone who is truly progressive, anyone who mildly challenges the pro billionaire corporatist system, anyone who suggest the US does slightly less imperialism
you literally may as well shout “do anything you want to me!! i serve at your pleasure!”. that ppl say these words proudly without recognising the nauseating corporate capture of their minds, that they can speak these words without recognising how messed up they really are, shows how far you’ve sunk
💯 Nothing says I'm your puppet like 'Vote Blue No Matter Who' Blue MAGA. It's Zombie behavior.
you speak of losing freedoms and yet your minds are already so fucking chained
It's precisely the same problem in the UK with Labour. Those who cling to the party are wilfully blinding themselves to the fact it doesn't adhere to its founding charter and, in policies and ministers, is indistinguishable from the Tories. See reality for what it is, not what you wish it was.
absolutely. there is nothing labour about this government at all, and that’s not an exaggeration
This is stupid. You can't just let fascism win because the alternative isn't literally perfect. When you choose not to vote you are eliminating any possibility that your opinion could be a factor in politics at all.
The alternative is a genocidal party of AIPAC stooges who serve an apartheid state of baby killers, a party of warmongers sending billions of our tax dollars to murder children and a commitment to endless wars. A party that serves a terrorist state. Keep your alternative.
Who was it that enabled the fascism by actively assisting it and sitting on their hands when it came to doing something meaningful to prevent it before it took hold? Might want to have a look at that so we don't end up here again... Again.
It was facism here or genocide over there. Y'all were willing to sell out others to avoid your own problems. You got played by a political kayfabe. Shut the fuck up.
If enough people voted against rightism, it would be electorally unviable, and you'd have better options in the first place. And if you want better options sooner, just vote in the primaries. But if you lose the primaries fair and square the correct solution isn't to just let the right win.
Wild to say "just vote in the primaries" when Mamdani is still facing in-party opposition despite winning his primary. Sorry, I draw the line at transphobes like Newsom or Buttigieg. I'm not asking for a "perfect" candidate, but we don't beat the fascists by becoming them.
Mamdani is also winning according to polls; it's not even close, so I don't see how this is evidence that voting in primaries is a bad solution
I don't believe I ever said that voting in primaries is bad. What I said is that "just vote in the primaries" is a callous dismissal of the problems with the party, including the fact that the party's own leadership STILL refuses to support its own democratically elected primary winners.
Yea its funny its all "Vote blue no matter who" for US. But when it has to be dem leadership who does it they'll do everything in their power NOT to.
no, what is stupid is that slogan. deeply, deeply stupid, offensive, and politically backward
Republican voters are so much smarter about power than people like you
Republicans openly brag about how weak liberals are and thankful that people like yourselves are their emery. Why would you need to worry from people who can't demand better or dream bigger than maintaining the status quo?
It is always scream "demands" with zero leverage for you clowns, while "do" is not something you understand. Of course, we dream bigger than defending the status quo - Biden actually improved the status quo a lot, and we hope for much bigger changes. What is wrong with you people?
“i’ll vote for literally any of you offering literally anything” - you, dreaming bigger
Now you are just lying. But even bad Democrats can be useful. Joe Manchin voted 70% for Biden's reforms and more than that for Biden's judges. But, I forgot, Progressives have such great success running in W. Va. What was it, 30% ?
i guess not enough of you were voting blue no matter who
on mute, for being too boring.
I guess that you make it clear you don't care about what happens to victims of Trumpism.
what a coincidence, that’s precisely how i feel about people like you
They always vote. They understand the importance of legislative majorities and of every office. They never keep gaining power because they know a R politician who they don't like will still vote with and cooperate with the R caucus. They are not whiny performative losers begging for attention.
so it’s performative to think that the laws that get passed actually matter? to me it seems more performative to care about a team jacket so much that you literally don’t care about…y’know…politics. but that’s just me
This is such a dishonest response. My point was that Republican voters act like they care about what laws get passed and what officials are appointed and they know how that happens - through electoral wins. People who always don't vote or protest vote or just sulk act like they do not care.
I care. This team bullshit is so tired. I care that people are getting disappeared by secret police. Fuck your team loyalty nonsense. I care Democrats historic climate change mitigation is being dismantled. You want to be irresponsible
Kamala campaigned on the most lethal fighting force in the world, which will be used by the duopoly on us citizens when economic & climate collapse hits us in a few years. you believe in a Disney version of reality and are incapable of understanding fascism is late capitalism
Well, go ahead and campaign on weakening the military - show us how it's done when you propose things that the vast majority reject.
Obama appointed Tom Homan. Biden dramatically expanded ICE. Dem establishment expanded the militarized police state at home and abroad. engage with reality
Homan sold out to MAGA. Not surprising. I don't expect Obama to see into a person's soul. www.nytimes.com/2025/01/17/u...
the “blue no matter who” picks don’t fight fascism at all, they enable it. wearing a blue facade isn’t anti-fascism, that’s delusional and ignores how we got here. vote blue and relentlessly push the blue facades to actually fight fascism. the problem with the slogan is it doesn’t do the second part
vote blue no matter if a hollow sham that doesn’t fight fascism is fucking child mind logic
What's offensive and stupid are people like you who make the perfect the enemy of the good. "Vote blue no matter who" is how you keep Trump and Republicans from destroying America. If that's not something you care about then just be up front about it and say so.
unfortunately, i don’t know if you’ll ever recognise that trump and this slogan are both merely symptoms, among many others, and that they stem from the same, deep sickness. and the tragedy of it is that nothing will be saved until enough people *do* recognise precisely that
Your post is that of someone so privileged that he can sit on the sidelines while things turn to crap under Trump. In fact, that's actually a positive in your mind.
it would be more privileged for me to ignore what i just told you and pretend it isn’t true, since doing that will ensure america’s slide continues. did you forget that the democrats won the presidency and trump still returned? almost seems as though they can’t fix america like you think they can
Yup. You are happy to see Trump win because it means America will turn to shit faster. No one needs you as an ally and no one should care why you won't vote for Democrats.
ok cool, well then i’ll leave you to enjoy your discussion with this imaginary version of my position that you’ve created, he should be pretty easy to knock down and i’m certain you’ll get a lot of your frustrations out
"nothing will be saved until enough people *do* recognise precisely that" This is you saying you want things to get worse. It's also you telling us you're not even American so, again, you don't care that Trump is awful.
actually, i’ll rephrase that. it’s not can’t, it’s won’t
What's stupid is whining about a slogan that if people followed would have resulted in a far better world.
ur right, words are meaningless & silly. after all, it’s not even remotely possible that the slogan itself may have been a contributing factor in the kind of off-putting vibe tht resulted in it not coming to fruition. that was sarcasm, by the way. i said a thing but i meant the opposite of the thing
