There are two ways to interpret how Trump and his vile ilk reacted to Comey’s “86 47” post. Is it just an example of how they lie to stoke fake controversy? Or … does it reflect their penchant for psychological projection—how they believe, or want to believe, everyone thinks and acts as they do?
I think they assume all people, at their core, are evil & vengeful like them. I am hoping that this assumption will eventually bring them all down.
what bothers me more is that we will see 24/7 coverage an all news outlets about Bidens health rather than the corruption and bullshit coming from trump. The Comey "scandal" will be forgotten by wednsday. It will all be about the bullshit Don Jr now started: Howw could noone see Biden was THAT ill?!
And by the time that wore a bit off the obvious characters like Patel or Bongino that had to... step into line with realiy a bit lately will come up with new conspiracies arround bidens health and the Dems plan to use it...
Considering the decapitationvideo Kash Patel shared i think it is more projection than idiocy
Or this. abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...
Or .... Both.
Based on the interaction I've had, they are simply willing to lie about what they believe in support of their cult. Someone insisted to me that "86" didn't mean anything to most people but that the head of the FBI would know its association with murder. It just doesn't pass the smell test.
"his vile ilk" has TSS - S for stupid. The principle of not insulting the opposition voters won't work with cults. They'll call you TDS and smugly declare a win. I believe that Harris would've enhanced her odds if she was bold enough to call out MAGA as a "stupid cult".
Everything is a smear campaign.
86 could mean impeach.
The projection now permits their open and notorious behavior later so your MAGA relative at Thanksgiving can shrug and say “all politicians do it.”
Every accusation is a projection. ALWAYS.
Maybe also a reflection of their self-involvement? Everything must be about them and their God.
All of the above…
How many MAGA are offended by Comey's post but love it when someone talks about "2nd amendment solution?" (Both are wrong.)
My Dad was my 7th grade (1964) homeroom & English teacher. We all learned to "86 our gum into file 13." Sometimes he called it the "round file." I 86ed a lot of stuff into those war surplus forest green metal cans. In private he called on my brother and I to "shitcan" bad ideas, etc. Comey was nice.
People power needs to be engaged. Hopefully it works like with F. Marcos in Philippines but it may be civil war But that moronic, incompetent Admin have got to go!
Projection in everything they accuse others of doing. I have said this for years.
It’s about controlling the news cycle.
I vote the latter
both
Persecution complex that makes them feel righteous
Everything and anything they do is to keep the cult energized and distracted. Look at the shiny object over there…
8647
BOTH?
Going with both
Geez… just ask Kelly Anne we can all get a quick answer.
Do we REALLY need more examples? Did we REALLY forget how not-great poverty combined with corruption gets?
Every accusation is a confession when it involves Trump.
In Canada, we interpret it only one way.....No bashing your dictator any way, shape, or form, or you go to a detention and reprogramming center.
Yes Yes
"Ilk" is never used positively, as in "Anti-Trump conservatives such as George Conway and his ilk are the GOP's and the Constitution's best hope."
IDK, but the word "ilk" is making a comeback.
1-800-TOGS-NOW
Both ways can be true... The GOP aka "Genuine Obnoxious Panderos" has totally embraced both of trump's "victime mentality" and "projectionist" defense mechanisms as propaganda in a desperate quest to justify (and enforce) their anti-American policies. #TheyAllBelongAtCECOT
I believe you meant to say Pendejos. Let’s blame autocorrect.
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I don’t want him to die yet. I want him to suffer with an illness first that leaves him disabled for a while as payback for mocking the disabled.
Stroke would be happyfying to me. Say June-ish timeframe?
Option 2.
8647! Love it! My favorite lottery number! 🥳🍾
Maybe Trump is reacting just as Comey knew he would. Perhaps he’s poking the bear deliberately just to irritate the fuck out of Trump!
I find that learning about 8647 or 86 47 in essence it summarizes my intense feelings in 4 digits! Ironic Trump himself would provide me with a ‘Coles Notes’ version of me wanting him ridded from my life!
We are expected to believe that Comey posting "86 47" is a bigger threat than this. abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...
Okay, you definitely got my point ….
Couldn’t have said it better 😎💙💙
This is MAGA 100%: “Or … does it reflect their penchant for psychological projection—how they believe, or want to believe, everyone thinks and acts as they do?”
I wouldn't rule out both.
Yes.
I choose door number 2
Both. They project every bad behavior and policy AND they lie their ass off…all of them, up and down the cabinet.
Both can be true 🤷
Well, both. Of course…
It's both There are a select few who stoke fake controversy because they know maga takes the literal interpretation of every faux outrage that they "jizz up". They're incapable of nuance. It's the same reason the responses to a satirical post are often more entertaining than the post itself.
I suspect its more to generate controversy and to flood the zone, so we don't focus on more important things.
Two things can be true at the same time.
MAGATS consistently uses projective identification as an ego defense mechanism. Because it allows them to legitimize their actions.
Both. There is a third possible reason: Forcing Comey to lawyer up to hurt him financially. But this is simply too absurd, so even if an investigation should be initiated, you wouldn't need a lawyer for the paper work. Oh, I nearly forgot: 8647.
They act how they think their fearless leader would approve of. Their fearless leader is a Russian asset and a stupid ass
Both
Or, they’re just assholes.
Well that goes without saying. One of the demon spawn children posted a tweet claiming that Biden hid his prostate cancer diagnosis from the public.
First one because they don’t see themselves as doing anything wrong
It’s actually C: Any small reason to project grievance and victimhood.
Both
It all hypocritical grandstanding. They nearly all put out 86 46 tweets during Biden’s presidency. These people have nothing but fake outrage. They certainly don’t have any talent or ability.
There is that and there is also this. Yes, its fake outrage. abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...
Both
Perhaps not mutually exclusive?
Why not BOTH?
Why does it have to be one or the other?
Harassment tool
I just wish someone would really 86 him and end this fucking ongoing nightmare.
Hey George 👋, this seashell thing is soooo wrong. The 86 47 is not at all correct. It should have been 86 51/50 47. But, you can't argue with nature!
I think the answer is yes. I mean no. I mean... 'present'.
Both
Why not both, the latter in service to the former.
And the former in service of the latter, hence the positive feedback cycle where every little flaw or faux pas from non-MAGA are amplified beyond 11, and every evil the MAGA inflict on the country and its residents diminishes to inaudibility after a short time.
Trump wants everyone to attack anyone who calls him out on things and rallies them behind any message of that. The rebels in Star Wars didn't always let the Empire know where they were.
A quintessential element of MAGA is their hypocrisy. When Biden was in office (even now that he's out) the GOP attacked and criticized him relentlessly - even making up things to attack him over. But the slightest criticism of Trump is seen as a threat.
They had no issue with 86 46, and in fact merch is still out there online.
I think they just invite trouble and chaos, constantly
Both
Or three: 0 Comey being a stooge and everything is designed deliberately so that folks waste time with this utter drivel, whilst behind the (iron!) curtain, all the Presidents Men, including Putins are laughing up their sleeves!
It was OK for them to us the same expression Such hypocrites
I don't have to analyze republicans, they are just not nice, they are mean, greedy and selfish, end of story.
It is both. They lie and project simultaneously.
I think it is the latter, mostly, but a combo of the two. I will suggest that democrats- to our detriment- also tend to believe (as humans do) that everyone thinks / acts like they do. The difference: dems/liberals think everyone cares about others and republicans think everyone is up to no good.
A crook always thinks they’re getting robbed.
Every accusation is a confession with that group.
Option 1 seems to require the least thought. At this point it’s a normal reaction for them.
It's #2 with the evergreen corollary that it's only an outrage when someone else does it
It works on their base. Keeping the hate alive.
May be a little bit of both but they definitely want to push fake controversy. cbwrong.blogspot.com?m=1
Has anyone stopped to think that Comey didn't arrange those shells? That he came upon them? That someone else laid them out that way? And they did it on May 15, 2025? I saw someone somewhere mention this fact, but... how many days between September 11, 2001 and May 15, 2025?
Comey is the "golden shower" guy. He pulled Trump aside and told him what "American intelligence" thinks of him. He'll never forgive Comey.
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The former. Too many examples support their “drama queen” approach. youtu.be/uyXVG29p5xw?...
yes, and yes
The latter
It's propaganda, that gets embedded in people's consciousness, so when the administration actually threatens someone, they pull the both sides card
As George has said many times it's diversion, diversion, diversion, and psychotic sickness. They will never miss an opportunity until they are out of office to stoke the latest outrage and play it for all it's worth. It's the outrage presidency...
Just another case of Trump holding a grudge and ordering his minions to exact revenge.
It’s the latter. I can’t tell you how many times someone I hardly know has expressed right wing views to me out of nowhere, assuming I am likeminded. I’ve never had a liberal do that to me.
Trump and his vile ilk are trying to reinterpret/redefine a term and then get worked up over that new definition they just created. Fake controversy.
God help us George, and thank God you're among the vanguard in the know. I wasn't familiar with the term, but T always does PP - just read the Springsteen ramble. Everything he tosses at the boss is himself. (I abbreviated it to PP for space sake not realizing I'd have space - still, its apropos)
Every accusation is a confession.
They think?
The latter is more true. They project everything they accuse others of doing.
Or both.
Both.
Can’t both things be true?
Given what Don Jr. posted about Biden, I realized how deeply malevolent they are, and how much pain they endured, passed down from Fred to Donald and on to Don Jr. The humiliation they both suffered at the hands of their father of course causes them to lash out to relieve the fury they feel.
I vote for the former. They seek to dominate the news cycle with chatter and fluff whilst they gut American institutions and influence quietly.
Nope
Yeah,Don’t say 86 Trump,maybe MAGA would be less offended if u just broke into Mara Lago with a hammer. MAGA followers loved the hammer idea when it was Pelosi! Maybe paint a picture of Trump hogtied on a tailgate of some hillbilly’s pickup! Just like McConnell, Republicans ooze hypocrisy!
It’s the #1 tactic Trump taught Republicans in 2016. Like a child, Trump thinks to hurry, lie & blame the other side for what he’s guilty of, then no one will suspect him. 3rd grade tactics from a 3rd grade mind! It just makes them look dumb as hell! Well,to everyone but maga,but they’re uneducated
Everyone knows "86" doesn't mean to kill. It only means to kick out and likely ban, permanently. What planet are these eejits from? Yes! I wish we could 86 47, too.
In slight defense of these morons, "86" means to get rid of, and it has been used to mean "assassinate", although most people don't think of it to mean that. I'll be honest, I really didn't know anything about this til this dumb controversy.
But these same people who are trying to ascribe a hidden meaning into "86" and say Comey is advocating assassination are the same twits who criticize us for trying to find hidden meanings into what Krasnov says.
I have notice a large number of Republican figures have taken to social media to say it was a call for assassination so i believe that was an official communication, and can mean anything given how “truthful” they are.
🙄 they can’t do anything. Just say 👻 they run like crying little babies.
So we need to look downstream, an ordinary conservatives, and it is them who will say what they really think. They are pretty insistent that 86 means “kill” sowhen they were saying 8646 that is exactly what they meant.
must it be an either/or situation? can it not be both?
As always, every accusation is a confession with them...
Yes.
As the quote goes, “two things can be true at the same time”.
Both
Covert abuse
I believe you need to put your hands together here. The answer is "yes."
Or intimidation? ¿Por qué no los tres?
They had to gin up controversy since their fake assassination attempt seems to have been forgotten about Remember, Trump claimed he's on par with, if not better than, Lincoln...who was assassinated It's also a distraction from his crimes. We discuss this, we're not talking $400M bribe from Qatar
I so wish he was on par...
He's not even on par with the dirt on the bottom of Lincoln's shoes.
he doesnt need to be on par with that but with holes in his head.
I’m pretty sure they have an entire department to identify and promote distraction stories.
Much simpler: “For my friends, everything. For my enemies, the law.”
"yes"
2
He is extremely corrupt but justifies his actions by thinking everyone else is also. We know that's not true and he is just severely mentally ill. Never in my long life have I ever heard the number 86 associated with killing someone. Never!
Ummmmm, tough question (not). Both… they just have to sling shit and create divisions any way they can.
I’m guessing there’s a spectrum that spans both responses.
Did the DOJ go after them, too? Did the secret service interview them? Hell, no!
It’s Black Belt Baghdad Bob Certification Level. On “Bob”level you tell insanity lies while smiling - Example-“thrilled to announce the sun has been turned to an aqua color thru the Presidents collaboration with Saudi scientists. Don’t see the new color? Hopefully you stop lying, fake news.”
Notice how the furor over a 747 'flying bordello' gift from Qatar just 'went away?'
86.
Dunno George but assume their nastiest mendacious worst. I had to google it- nothing came up re inciting injury to anyone.
One may hold two truths simultaneously. In Trump's and ilk's case it saves time.
It's not either or, and they aren't mutually exclusive. Authoritarians and fascists make up controversies and scandals for their political opponents. Some of those will be unrelated to their own crimes and corruption while some will be projections.
Everything they do - investigations, arrests of govt officials, etc. - are intended to create soundbites for right wing media. Period. Watch as proceedings against govt officials quietly fade away without trial or plea. The admin can’t afford to lose in court.
Why does anyone anywhere care one iota about anything James Comey does or says?
Both. They lie to stoke fake controversy AND it reflects their penchant for psychological projection.
Both
It's both. They love to create outrage out of nothing.
Both…. The “entertainment wing” does it for controversy and monetization. For the base, it’s the latter.
yes
Not only is he a malignant, sadistic narcissistic psychopath, he's also paranoid & thinks everyone is out to get him. There actually might be a kernel of truth to that belief, though.
Yes. They cast blame for their own actions, behaviors, words, and BS penchants onto others to stoke fake controversies with their little followers so they can later throw around their what-aboutisms if someone calls them out for something.
both
It is hard to judge the nuttiness of fruit cakes.
3. Pissy little bitches.
Easy answer: When many of them posted “86 47” a year ago, they meant “86” = “kill,” so of course they would construe Comey’s post as death threat since that’s what they meant.
Trump thinks everyone is sadistic, malignant psychopaths hence his paranoia
Both
Either way, they are dangerously and disgustingly effective. Democrats and the media react, become defensive, and suddenly it pushes out factual stories with real consequences.
Probably the latter.
Both
a heaping tablespoon of acrid bile, both.
I think it's 50/50. It's up to us to decide which.
I’m going with “they’re utter scum”
Perhaps we should all remind them of all the vile posts he & his cult have made about President Joe Biden. Not to mention Trump's attacks on Liz Cheney...
the answer is "yes"
30% A, and 70% B.
¿Porque no los dos?
It's the second.
She sells seashells by the seashore but the seashells that she sells are seashells nomore...repeat
This isn't allowed on Twitter. When Biden was President, 86 46 was allowed. But this is crossing the line for them. Pictures of Joe Biden hog-tied in a truck bed were allowed. But calling for the REMOVAL of Donald Trump has been banned on Twitter. So much for freedom of speech.
Cokehead Jr’s recent post about Jill Biden proves there are people in the world who are just vile and disgusting at their core. They don’t have a single redeeming quality or purpose in life and will never amount to anything worthwhile.
Both/and
And stoking fake controversy is a way of distracting the rubes from their actual wretched deeds
And to keep people fighting with each other rather than challenging the rich, the powerful, the oligarchy.
Yes.
The correct answer is number 2.
Are these the same people that have every color available of the 86 46 t-shirts hanging in their closets?
Stoking controversy seems like fun weekend thing for them. The psychological projection is more of a Monday to Friday full time gig.
They are disgusting. Pure evil.
Every single thing Circus Clown says or does is a) a lie b)a projection or c) both. It's both of your suggestions.
No, they are just vile disgusting piles of crap. Very simple.
There is a third way to interpret this By accusing their enemies of what they do, or plan to do, it makes corruption seem acceptable to the weak minded All three of these reasons can be true at the same time The goal is to give those who want to support them something to salve their conscience
