In the negotiation between Hitler's pistol and Hitler's brain the gun won.
i heartily encourage Putin to end the war as Hitler did.
Um, WW2 ended in the 'unconditional' surrender of Germany and then Japan. How can something 'unconditional' be negotiated?
Japan would like a word……
Technically, the Japanese surrender wasn’t unconditional because we allowed them to keep their silly god/emperor thingy…
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A man who is transactional/immoral enough to switch from opposing "America's Hitler" to being his vice-president will be transactional/immoral enough to throw Ukraine to the wolves - and think himself a hero for doing so.
Putin wants the US to give them Eastern Europw again. Republicans are pro communist.
Ignorant douche
No No they didn't.
Good Lord, can he be that ignorant? The only thing we were negotiating about at the end of WWII was when and where the surrender papers were going to be signed.
So bombing the enemy is a negotiating tactic!?
The US can no longer be a mediator for negotiations between Ukraine and Russia. Trump already ruined this with his disgusting awe and praise of Putin that was shown to the whole world. He made things better for Putin and much worse for Ukraine! He is no deal maker and won't get a Nobel Peace prize.
This is what a failed mainstream media looks like. Cc @maddow.msnbc.com @oliverdarcy.bsky.social @chriscillizza.bsky.social
A donkey have an IQ higher than this asshole.
Never let facts get in the way . J.D. Vance , even his name is a lie . Goes on Faux lies his head off , then goes back to his couch tour .
Why does Vance try and talk as if he is Harvard educated smart but then up sound like white trailer trash in his arguments.
He doesn’t want to remind people what happened to the nazis at the end of WWII. Our nazis will get it much worse.
Vance is proving that Trump isn't the only delusional idiot in the White House.
This is just such a dangerous comment. "Oh this war will end like WW2 did" Okay so... getting rid of the leader or *two atom bombs.* So suddenly Russia thinks either we have regime change on the mind or are going to resort to nukes. Well no, because Vance is trying to change history. But still.
And by the way, this is what you get when you try to rewrite history and make it more “white washed” then it was.
Maybe he should ask Japan how those negotiations went? I hear they were a little one-sided. JD Vance is a moron.
Where was it he went? Yale? Must have been a DEI admission.
WW2 settled by negotiation? 😂😂 What a clown.
ah, WWII? check your history books Mr. VP. Japan surrendered unconditionally. On the deck of the USS Missouri. "We hereby proclaim the unconditional surrender..." And the Nazis? That's called Defeat without negotiations.
Manspreader
That is… some kind of gaslighting, all right, from the WH traitor felon conman’s right-hand hillbilly boy! 😡
Loser.
Dunning-Kruger with Vance. Always. He’s just so full of himself.
Tragically laughable
JD Vance knows as much about history as he does of his own identity.
Harvard mouth. Shit for brains.
Prince Andrew will be negotiating the settlement between the US and Russia whereby Russia doesn’t release the pee tape in exchange for Florida. Wait, I could support that!
JD Vance is an imbecile! We defeated the Germans and Japanese through battle, not negotiations!
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Aw. Love me some Tim Miller.
JD clearly slept through his history classes. The end of WWII came about when both Germany and Japan unconditionally surrendered in that conflict. There was no negotiation
Yes we negotiated with Germany by turning Berlin into a parking lot and then we negotiated twice with Japan by dropping atomic bombs on them. I see JD Vance is a graduate of the Trump University School of History.
Ya know who actually did negotiate with Hitler? Neville Chamberlain - and we all know how that turned out...
Hitler’s men goosestepping down Pennsylvania Ave to chat with FDR?? Mansplaining ugh I remember why I dislike this man so much.
I guess suicide in a bunker could be considered a negotiation??
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Wish Tim Russert was still alive to dissect this clown
Why didn’t she stop him and correct him?
Himmler tried to negotiate with the Allies through Bernadotte of Sweden. The Allies rightfully refused. When Hitler found out, he had Himmler arrested and removed from all his powerful posts.
What history book did JD read that in?
I don’t remember a single war that ended from a negotiation. Vance is full of shite.
And they also don’t remember The Democrat FDR placing Japanese-American CITIZENS in internment camps.
Japan would like a word
May I ask, how the Vietnam war ended in 1975? 🤔🤔
"Reality is what we say it is" - the GOP, from Cheney to the present.
Vance is such an arrogant nobody. He's a made man.
and the negotiations with the Japanese, too. He's a real history buff, isn't he?
Oh my god.
I think he knows better and is lying his ass off. WW-2 ended in full UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER by the Germans and Japanese. I wish there was a penalty for Vance et al. when they lie to us like that.
JD Vance, what a moron. WWI theoretically ended with the Treaty of Versailles. The allies dictated the terms of the treaty; it was so draconian that it created the conditions for the rise of Hitler. WWII ended after the axis powers were reduced to rubble. These were not negotiated ends to the wars!
Is he this stupid or does he just play this stupid on TV? Either way MAGA will never love him.
Their point is they lie because people will believe them Undereducated MAGA.
And then when Truman had the emperor over for tea.
WW2 got settled through negotiations? Vance must have skipped his history classes. Level of ignorance is astounding.
If thinks WWII was resolved by negotiations he's unfit for office for that reason alone.
Fun fact if you mistype "that reason" here you get "tha treason" which is interesting because that's what he's guilty of.
Yes, it's called surrender you dolt.
Vance is either ignorant or lying, wars end when the aggressors are defeated. WW2 & WW1 Germany was defeated then Japan was defeated by the atomic bombs in1945. No wars are ended by negotiation. Negotiations come after the war to create a peaceful settlement.
Exactly. Thank you!
Has the man ever read a history book? WWII in Germany ended with Germany a bombed out wreck, millions of her people dead, and her leaders mostly dead by suicide.
If most of our WWII vets were still alive.. this shit wouldn’t be happnin’
I guess Hiroshima and Nagasaki were one of the best sit-down negotiations. Publically attempting to humiliate another leader is also a great negotiations tactic.
This isn't a regional war. This is one fascist country invading another to try to take it over. Negotiations here are "get out of my house".
But not by selling out!
You know, who is more vile, JD Vance or Stephen Miller, is actually a closer race to the utterly warped, willfully ignorant, ghoulish bottom than I once would have thought.
It's such a cliched phrase, but this literally is what it feels like to be on the wrong side of history.
A competent junior high journalism student would stop that Vance B.S. in its tracks. 😒
Vance got into Yale but apparently flunked history.
Negotiation is not surrender. What Putin, and our fearless leader want, is surrender. If Ukraine surrenders, then, it will be completely gobbled up as it becomes part of the new Soviet Union. Next come Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldova. Then onward. What will we do? Absolutely nothing.
He doesn't believe it and he knows better. He's just spouting talking points for the dinner table arguments.
Is this woman qualified as a journalist? Is her job to only ask questions and then let him ramble on without correction? How is that serving the audience? Since Russert passed I don't waste my time.
Yeah, and WWI negotiations led to WWII. That went so well! Or the negotiations between Israel and Palestine led to genocide! Man's inhumanity to man leads to wars!
he clearly ignores why there is a war in the first place he knows full well why russia started this war and is doing a bang up shit job of protecting their sinister deeds just like those sinister #epsteinfiles that are being covered up
Who hired the 🛋️ dude to represent the USA? 🇺🇸
You wanna start calling some of these cunts out? Or are you just going to let everyone else do it?
Vance is ignorant about history. WW2 was not ended through negotiations.
Doesn’t look like a negotiation to me.
France? Just France? Heck, FDR rolled out the red carpet for every country in Europe. FDR whole heartedly agreed to Hilters terms, which were: lay down your arms, kill all the Jews, do medical research on anyone that has any kind of abnormality (FDR was in a wheelchair), and learn to speak German.
What uni did you attend Vance? What a full blown idiot!!
That’s easy! Trump university!
I don’t remember us giving Germany or Japan more territory as appeasement.
The only concession (and I barely call it that) was leaving the Emperor in place as they were unsure how the Japanese people would do with occupation. Germany was partitioned and Italy gave up Libya, thus conceding territory. both were occupied.
Italy surrendered in September 1943 after being invaded.
I dont know all of history but I cant think of an armed conflict in the past 200 years on the west at least that would be concluded with a negotiation - isnt an inability to negotiate the whole reason for war in the first place?
Hes such a fartnugget
And when Trump finally dies we're going to be stuck with Vance
Media you got to stop normalizing this administration your a failure !
What a dimwit. The destruction of Germany and its trek across Europe and the A-Bombing of Japan ended the wars not “negotiation”. Elect an unqualified author to be VP and you get a dimwit unaware of actual history. Every with the twits in this admin. Embarrass themselves with stupid statements
Nope a Dope
I’ve heard many people clam Vance is intelligent. Sorry, not seeing it.
*claim
Did she push back? I don’t watch the show because I got tired of “Moving on to our next scripted exchange” after responses like this. Has anything changed?
I can’t with these people. Does he practice saying things this stupid? Seriously, I would have to work at it, I would have to practice saying the lies to have them come out this fluidly….🤷♀️🤦🏼♀️
Mother fucker doesn’t know that France was totally liberated. His Hill Billy is showing!
Remember when George Washington said you can keep Valley Forge because it snows there in the Winter. Also we don’t need the French Navy at Yorktown since who needs Virginia. Also, about Boston, that ole Sam Adams was just a beer drinker. Heard later on they built a brewery in his honor.
He's never heard of Japan's unconditional surrender if WWII??? If you believe Trump Iran was bombed into oblivion and sought peace; no negotiations there. No wonder there's a hate on for "politicians".
He forgot about the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, strife bombings in Japan and Germany to finally bring Germany & Japan to the table. You negotiate via a position of strength, not tRump capitulation.
What an embarrassment.
MacArthur and Hirohito in a Jubilee-style debate.
Germans surrendered unconditionally. Surrender of Axis was the reason for end of Ww2. Hitler’s suicide was not a negotiation . Nuremberg trials were not a negotiation. Dropping A-bombs were not a negotiation . JDVance should stick to couches and writing fiction
When factual history does not matter.
Maybe JD should just go on vacation permanently.
Was this guy doing all his mom’s drugs growing up and he wrote that Hillbilly book to get her more? Because he sure as hell wasn’t reading any history I feel really fortunate that my entire family served in WWII Our generation completely understood what had happened They didn’t have to tell us
Kristen Welker must go.
A nuclear bomb is one hell of a negotiation tactic.
What negotiation ended world war 2 dumbass?
The country with the most metal wins. Fact.
Poor America, a country run by cartoon people
Vance can say anything because his followers don’t know WW2 from the War of the Roses.
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He is so full of shit.
Only negotiations is for Putin to leave Ukraine
...says WW II expert Shady Vance 🙄
Yeah right, Adolph negotiated with his Luger, the residents of Nagasaki and Hiroshima negotiated with " Little Boy" and "Fat Man" Thanks for your history lesson Vance.
Exactly
Thank you for this. As I recall, WWII ended with unconditional surrender by the Germans, and then the Japanese. No peace treaty was signed in either case for years.
Putin's a warmongering, aggressive expansionist, like Hitler, & Trump praised Putin for invading Ukraine There aren't negotiations between Trump & Putin, it's a photo-op Trump supports Putin 💯 Vance's ignorance will lead to WW3 A history lesson for Vance (who called Trump "America's Hitler")...
The "Ministries Trial" was one of a dozen trials held in Nuremberg after WWII to deal with many of Hitler's "enablers" - the underlings who promoted and administered his "vision". People like Vance. Most who were charged went to prison. Remember: We'll be looking for all of you enablers one day.
Weird how Japan waited until after the second nuclear bomb to agree to a cease fire.
JD Vance gives daily evidence that he does not know history (or purposely ignores it), has no idea what truth is (knowledge of things as they are, were and are to come), and is certain in his heart and mind that his existence ends at his death.
Guess he was absent the day they studied August 6, 1945. And the day they discussed Japan's unconditional surrender, because even if you slept through that class, there's no way you could mistake that for a negotiation.
Where did this moron go to school?
Good journalism would’ve been interjecting to say WWII ended in unconditional surrender, before he could say another word…
Yale needs to rescind his degree
Putin does not negotiate. Trump doesn’t have the art of negotiation in his wheelhouse, so Ukraine will continue to suffer. Trump won’t stand up to Putin and the EU is the only help for Ukraine. What happens if they put troops inside of Ukraine? Will Trump do anything ? No. He will disappear. Sad
What a piece of shit! There was no surrender negotiations with the hitler. Vance is just as dumb as the rest!
It’s a travesty
WELKER MUST RESIGN! AND IF SHE LOCKS DOWN ON ONE MORE OF HER IDIOTIC YES OR NO GOTCHA LOOPS....I'M SWITCHING BACK TO CBS... AND THAT'S FREAKING PARAMOUNT FOLKS!!!!!!!
Why does this regime seem so unfazed and almost drugged about everything.. seeing and hearing all of them is just so repulsive
Hahaha. Can someone please send the hillbilly back to school. Seems he missed his history classes, civics, and humanity classes too. Must have been too much moonshine during his school years. What a f***king ignorant clown
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Donald Trump is a Russian asset and a traitor. He's also a liar, a sexual deviant, possibly a pedophile, a convicted felon, a cheater at everything, an adjudicated rapist and an all around bad guy. Release the Epstein files! Keep that war criminal Putin out of our country
This man is either a monumental idiot or he thinks we are! My money’s on the former.
Why not both?
True!
So plainly incorrect. It makes you wonder exactly how stupid JD Vance is.
Vance is an idiot!
Evil Shady Vancescara.. what a creep!
For those who need to know. This was not a negotiation it was an unconditional surrender.
Atomic bomb is some serious mother f'ing negotiation
Harvard should demand he return the diploma. Yeah, no duh! The Japanese “negotiated” their surrender after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuclear bombed to smithereens. Germany “negotiated” after Germany was occupied by Allie’s snd Hitler committed suicide. Arrogant putz.
Negotiated end to WW2? ,Germany's unconditional surrendered in May 1945 , Japan's unconditional surrendered in September 1945, Ohio State University and Yale Law School should be so proud
Not to mention the Japanese unconditional surrender on the decks of USS Missouri at Tokyo Bay—my Dad was there.
Vance-The negotiation in YOUR STORY would be Roosevelt negotiating w/ Japan after they bombed Pearl Harbor. Didn’t happen! Japan wanted dominance and Roosevelt said FAFO! We helped reconstruction and political reform. We should be punishing RUSSIA and they should reconstruct Ukraine. Are you stupid?
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Can he explain what exactly we "negotiated" with the Hitler?
Negotiation Vance note bootlicking a dictator. Trump is a disgrace to our country.
Vance is very bad at history and an embarrassment to the memory of those who served*.
Stupid analogy. France had already fallen to Nazi Germany. Ukraine has not fallen to Russia.Kiev still stands
Annd she shot him down right away, right? Right? The credulous press is a huge problem.
So ignorant.
JD Vance has less than a fourth grade education evidently. Throughout history negotiation does not play much of a role. The historical story is one of genocide. Sure, war has been through a short, almost negligible time, where war had a pretense of being, “civilized.”
Both of mum’s parents served in the Canadian and British armies during the Second World War and mum assures me that NEITHER of them said there was a “negotiated” end to that conflict!!!
WW2 did NOT end with negotiation dumbass.
Did Welker quickly correct that supersized whopper? As that is her job.
‘Unconditional surrender’ was the peace terms with Germany. Famously.
Yup. WW2 ended in a negotiation, as exemplified by Hitler shooting himself in his bunker and the suicides of Goebbels, Goering and Himmler.
Yeah, I remember when the US "negotiated" with Japan in WWII.
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World War II ended with Hitler eating a cyanide caplet and two nuclear bombs being dropped. What JD is talking about is appeasement, that caused the whole fucking thing
Adolf Hitler killed himself with a gunshot to his head on April 30, 1945, in his Berlin bunker. After his suicide, his body was carried outside and burned to prevent his remains from falling into the hands of the Soviet Red Army, which was closing in on the city.
Yes, I believe it was the Goebbels family that was the cyanide
Well, the parents fed it to their unsuspecting children before killing themselves. They feared capture by the Russians, and rightly so.
Stop letting him lie. Confront the lies.
The MSM is weak cowards
I agree. Why wouldn’t there be a correction right then and there so he has to stare at the camera and get angry like it’s someone else’s fault he’s stupid.
The new Smithsonian is gonna be lit!
On fire.
Now a new version of WW II. No my father and mother won WW II and their generation.
And a lot of dead people and all the atrocities don't forget those and also ruined infrastructure and economy
But the hun surrendered unconditionally…
“Every major conflict in human history “? Tell that to the good citizens of Carthage, you ignoramus.
Ah yes, the negotiations of Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Blow hard. This is another example of the failings of our education system.
Eat shit, Shillbilly.
Or don’t forget #PromisesToUSSR then double cross US made after word of #NuclearWeapon.
@stuartpstevens.bsky.social it’s STILL all a lie
Would someone tell that bearded, couch-fucking asshat that the victims of Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki would like to have a few words with him about negotiations! It was the “negotiations” that ended WWI that caused all of WWII. Where did he go to college? What a clown!
Everybody hates JD
Yes, the Japanese negotiated peace. And by negotiated peace, they offered to stop the war, if we promised not to nuke another one of their cities.
Well, we did agree to let them keep their emperor, but that was about the only condition they were able to get out of us.
Negotiations on the battle field.
the hillbilly is so full of shite
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j.d.v. is Either Very Stupid or An Arrogant Liar.. or Both.. take your pick
His lack of understanding for how WW II ended (with out giving up land) is staggering for someone in his position. However, he knows that he must say what ever daddy wants him to say!
Exactly thank you Tim. Vance morons
Vance the history major
The best way to rewrite history is to have never learned in the first place.
WW2 was unconditional surrender—what an ignorant-fuck JD Vance is.
False
tim miller is wonderful
The hell? Here’s what I think of when I think about the end of WW2 in Europe:
FDR didn't see the end of the European war nor the war in the Pacific! What was divided up by the allies was Germany & allowing Stalin to take east Berlin a BIG MISTAKE! These Putin stooges, Vance & Trump just want an easy way out. No interest in justice only self-interest just like in U.S.
Surrender isn't negotiation
J DiVance is not only ignorant, but he thinks the people listening to him are ignorant, & he thinks the people interviewing him will let him lie without a challenge. Putin is leaning on Felontrump to end sanctions on Russia, that's what he told him in the private talk/ride. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
has that fckng moron ever even read a book>?! we know how fckng disastrous it was for chamberlain to hand over czechoslovakia on a silver platter. i am no one; if i learned this from history, how is it that our elected leadership has not>? are they ignorant, or simply duplicitous>?
I wish we could get Trump and Vance in a room with historical scholars and just let them start talking. It would be educational for people to listen to experts explaining to these two bozos why they’re wrong.
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Zelensky should offer putin the same deal vance would offer someone who broke into his house, raped and killed his wife, kidnapped his children, ransacked and burned some rooms, took over his kitchen and rec room because he likes them, refuses to leave and wants ownership of the back yard. ftg
So George wants American military in Ukraine. Don't see your fat ass on the front lines George.
Trump, Rubio and Vance are vile grifters talking crap.
Yes they are, besides being big pieces of 💩
We didn’t “negotiate with Japan or Germany, they surrendered, Hitler took his own life, there were years of trials and convictions for war crimes. We shouldn’t be feting and negotiating with a criminal for whom killing means nothing. Ukraine needs to win and we should be doing all we can to help.
If we are lucky, tRump will copy Hilter’s ending.
In trump's case, the bunker will have sand in it! 😁
World War II ended with the unconditional surrender of the Axis powers.
What a fucking idiot. I thought Vance was college educated.
The confidence these people have while spewing such garbage is beyond belief.
That's why they called them confidence men.
The Union ceded WAY too much to Confederates after the war. Statues of Confederate officers should have been banned & Congress should have passed laws to withhold funding for any schools named after Confederate officials! Naming military bases after Confederate generals? Are you f’ing kidding me?!?😡
Dear Ohio State University Yale University, US Marine Corps, and the US Senate. There is nothing wrong with you invoking the ancient practice of 'Damnatio Memoriae' when he departs this world. Sincerely, Humans who have not been corrupted by avarice and perfidy