None of them got a red carpet.

In conclusion, World War II is a land of contrasts.

The great negotiators that ended WW 2.

Hiroshima was “a negotiation”?

Hillbilly.

There you go again...stating facts.

Dimwitted. A dangerous dimwit.

He and his pals have all made deals with the devil. Maybe that's what he's thinking about.

Vance is such an arrogant bastard.

Vance must really think we're stupid. Allied forces had to bomb Germany into rubble and Hitler to commit suicide before that conflict came to an end in Europe. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were nuked for crying out loud.

Welker is trash letting Vance sit there and say trump "has ended 6 wars" without asking which 6 wars. She's WORSE than chuck Todd.

How about asking were they actually at war and did the aggressions truly stop?

Her “job” is to provide a bullhorn for the rich and powerful to amplify their message to masses. MSM stopped being a reliable check on power and misinformation since the rush to war in Iraq.

yup

And then came the war crime trials. Because the peace was not negotiated.

Thanks, George Conway. I was 12 years old when WW2 ended and distinctly remember the actual battles and bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, along with D day in Europe and the deaths of Hitler et al and Mussolini. Any negotiations took place after surrender and occupation.

Wait until he’s in charge. There’ll be a line of MAGA Republicans from here to Appalachia trying to step over him to get into power.

Would be nice if we could give Putin and Trump the Mussolini treatment.

It’s well known that the Carthaginians were able to negotiate a ceasefire after their entire population was killed & enslaved and the Romans salted the earth where their civilization once stood.

Jimmie Don Bowman is a shillbilly.

I don’t remember learning in school that Hitler negotiated with the US.

Couchy Vance, Amateur Historian

Ah, there goes Jennifer Darlene Vance again with the revisionist rhetoric. That or he doesn’t know history. Probably both.

Let’s not be transphobic. Plus he is most definitely not a Jennifer

It’s a reference to JD in Scrubs always being called a girl’s name by Dr. Cox. I see where you’re coming from, though.

WTF is he talking about? His lies and stupidity make a person's head hurt

You would've thought Kristen would know a bit of his story to push back but I guess I was getting my hopes too high.

American forces in Europe negotiate with Nazis.

Taxi of the American negotiating team to the Japanese Imperial Army.

Vance is so STUPID.

Vance is silly.

Ridiculous little Weeble. 🙄

Let the negotiations begin!

What an idiot. An entire administration of power hungry, unqualified, ignorant idiots with no awareness of history, globally or domestically. Except for Stephen Miller. He’s a very aware, minister of evil taking us back to Hitler’s Nazi’s and, dare I say, Stalin’s “Great Purge” Don’t let them win!

Naivete posing as insight.

U.S. Grant’s nickname was Unconditional Surrender Grant and Grant was from Ohio.

Isn’t he an Ivy League grad? I’ve lost All respect. My kid’s going to community college!

Good historical parallels. But I prefer Saddam Hussein's fate for JD.

Muammar Gaddafi anyone?

He just makes shit up. Every day. And with such conviction. Since his first book through today. He doesn’t even recognize the truth anymore.

Just like Trump. Their relationship with reality is quite tenuous.

It's on the first page of the Authoritarian playbook, and it's in there because it works.

he recognizes his alternate facts

Will accept ending negotiations with Putin killing himself in a bunker or one small nuke dropped on Moscow followed by one on St Petersburg three days later and his abdication.

Also don’t recall Germans “negotiating” $20 billion+ in reparations at Versailles

This turd is smarter than Trump but people should stop tripping over themselves to proclaim him any smarter than that.

Sure, but the Iraq War was settled when Saddam Hussein.... never mind.

World War I famously ended with a successful negotiation that led to lasting peace.

What stopped WW2 was overwhelming force. What stopped WW1 was the collapse of the state aggressors. The US and USSR ended wars in Afganistan by giving up, as the US did in Iraq. The Koreas are still at war because nobody won. Very few wars end in negotiations.

Panmunjom negotiations have been going on since 1953 with no movement whatsoever.

There haven't been serious negotiations in decades. To say they are negotiating is a fallacy.

I know. Yet, there they are every damned day.

Vance is a total moron.

He doesn’t know his history.

Idiot needs to study history.

Surrender does not equal negotiating peace… he’s an ass hat..

Mussolini was strung up in the street with piano wire. #TheArtOfTheDeal

Wut. 😒 Does this dipshit have zero understanding of history? (The answer is clearly yes).

"...if I only had a brain"...

He should stick to appearances on FOX. Most viewers over there believe anything they're told.

Mmmmm...Hitler and Hiroshima...not so much, ya moron!

Hes so fucking dumb ,no wonder Trump chose him ,their knowledge of any history is on par?

WELKER NEEDS TO GO!!!!

Would be nice to have journalists know history

What a fucking idiot.

Ouch! Reality sucks.

And now that we are working towards no one knowing history, he can rewrite it and boldly make shit up.

if, by negotiation, you mean kill a shitload of people, then yes.

Russia didn't negotiate an end to its war with Afghanistan. They walked away. The United States didn't negotiate an end to its war with Afghanistan. We withdrew. Not every conflict concludes at the negotiating table. Sometimes the invading nation just quits and goes home.

It’s a teachable moment in how to BS in your best condescending tone.

Notable by its absence from the post WW2 negotiations was the country which started it

… and where the hell was Kristen Welker to point this out?

They began with negotiations that failed. War was the result.

Russia invaded Ukraine. It is the country who should receive nothing Stop Putin’s dreams of the USSR.

No unity without accountability.

Anyone who conflates "negotiation" with the reality of "total surrender" either knows better and is purposely trying to twist public sentiment in favor of Russia (the aggressor) or is historically ignorant. Since he was cogent enough to once think Trump was America's Hitler, I vote for the former.

VD Couch fails to grasp you don’t get humpy with someone else’s upholstery - it’s not your cushion to give away.

Those negotiations were called surrender, Dum-Dum.

Vance’s arrogance is just a cover for his ignorance. And Welker really stinks as a journalist. I lost all respect for NBC as well as other news media outlets since the election.

Our negotiation with Japan was "Surrender, or you will get nuked again"

Quick question: how much new territory did Germany and Japan add in these negotiations?

That’s what happens when you rewrite history.

Heavy mascara today!

May we be so lucky.

They tried appeasement with Hitler. He said thank you and moved on any way. Negotiations have to be in good faith or have consequences. Being stupid won't give a do over.

Hmm.. 🤔

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WE all know this. You need to share this crucial information with JD and Maga.

The United States is the sole nation that employed nuclear weapons during wartime.

Few modern day despots leave office anywhere near peacefully. Ceaușescu, Gadaffi, Saddam, Assad, etc. I think negotiation in this case will likely involve non-extradition treaties.

Maybe Vance knows a little something about law but he sure doesn’t know much about ANYTHING else.

Only because they switched sides did the Soviet Union come out, territorial speaking , ahead.

And neither Germany nor Japan gained a single acre of new territory as a reward for their aggression. JD Vance is a FUCKING MORON.

J D feeding their masses, their daily dose of pablum. They love the undereducated .

Please don't distract Donald Trump's whiny little bitch JD Vance with any facts!

Blatantly, disingenuously ignorant. Drop the hillbilly crap and channel that Yale Law degree you psycho.

The end of WWII was NOT a negotiation. It was a surrender.

He doesn’t know his history.

Hitler shot himself in a bunker. Was he at these 'negotiations'?

Your mouth to their god's ear.

The man who makes up four or so names to identify himself and makes shit up about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Oh thinks we should listen to his take on history.

The current war will end like Russia's involvement in WW1, the people's horror at the endless deaths finally overflowed and they ended the ruling classes power using a combination of bullets and walls.

History is a mystery to this bunch.

How do you get those who don't automatically get this to get this?

So what you are saying is they weren’t invited to US soil, had a red carpet rolled out for them by US Troops, or were served an expensive nice lunch?

In Just Dance's case we're much better off when he's on vacation and keeps his mouth shut.

Shady is a liar

Profound idiocy! There was no negotiation to end WWII.

Millions of dead from WW2 are unfortunately unable to slap the shit out of JD Vance for his complete disregard for human life. What a piece of crap!

If you call bombs and occupation "negotiation".

That's some kind of negotiation!

we say in such a case: "he is talking out of his neck". (dutch, and belgium, but it has been a long time back since we broke up 😅)

Good old Welker, never met a far right nazi she didn't LOVE.

US negotiating tactics test (mock debate), 1954

JD should have stuck to sofas

He was stuck to a few sofas

Is he this stupid? Or only thinks we are?

You forgot to add that Japan was nuked….that’s one hell of a “negotiation”…

This administration majors in either not knowing much or lying.

🤣🤣🤣 so much for Yale educated 🤣🤣🤣

I didn't know JAMES DONALD BOWMAN (aka JD VANCE) wear skinny suit pants.

Mussolini negotiated poorly

JD meant Neville Chamberlain Marco will back him @marcorubio.bsky.social

Didn't #jdv Lear this at school?

If you are invaded, and you don’t surrender, that’s it. The invader eventually has to leave. For example, AFGHANISTAN…

GOOD POINT, Michael!!

Yeah, take Japan, we blew the shit out of two cities.

Also, D-Day and the Enola Gay were great negotiators!!!

Yep. And, my Dad was part of the Marine force that occupied Japan. Damn these people are ignorant.

😳 🤦🏻‍♂️ Is he really that stupid? … never mind …

Whoever gave this dumb fuck a degree should DEMAND its return. When Trump dies, we could give Vance one chance to just walk away...otherwise its on.

Vance ignores the fact the aggressors didn't get rewarded and given an invite to the World Cup

Just Dance Vance: noted historian and couchfucker.

Well, he clearly wasn't there for any of them

These people are idiots. How the hell are people dumb enough to vote for these dolts?

After attempting to flee the country, Mussolini was caught and strung up upside down.

How did this guy graduate from Yale? The “negotiations” were allied troops marching across Europe from every angle, beating the Nazis into submission.

But surely you remember the back & forth, give & take for weeks that led to the signing of the 200 page contract on the deck of the USS Missouri?

How to say you did not pay attention in school without saying you did not pay attention in school.

Vance = glib. You = truth.

Please stop giving this piece of ass-kissing slime a public platform. He's a nefarious extreme right-wing operative who is one of the Rockbridge Network founders. The organization uses "dark money," to influence elections, is secretive nature, and uses aggressive tactics. Thiel is also associated.

The "negotiation" that ended WW2...

When British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain tried to negotiate peace with Hitler, that didn't exactly end up in peace.

OMG they lie about everything... That is not how either one of those wars ended.

He sure does like to hear himself talk...

There is the tiny detail of 40,000,000 or more dead, most of Europe and Japan in ruins and the violent deaths of the fascist leaders who started the whole thing. But you do you Vance.

The U.S. let Japan keep its emperor, but that’s about it.

JD changed his name a couple of times, previously Lavrov

And JD Vance went to visit Neo-Nazis in Germany. apnews.com/article/germ...

Stop teasing us

Apparently JD doesn’t know what “unconditional” means 😂

What about the Hatfields and McCoys?

Trump could rape a child on 5th avenue and never trumpet Vance would try and spin it for trump to not look so bad. This man is a creep. Full stop.

Yes the US and allies sent 160,000 negotiators to Normandy. The negotiation end when Hitler killed himself in a bunker.

The “negotiations” is that Zelenskyy surrenders. JD (or whatever his name is this week) is such a dope.

looks like Johnny Parallel-Hands is back on his bullshit

WWI no "negotiating" with German, what was "negotiated" was the destruction of Germany, borders and economy. We dropped two bombs on Japan. Yeah, that was "negotiating" wasn't it. Almost as important, she didn't even blink or think about correcting him.

White Nationalists like Vance have a version of history they prefer and they are obsessive about making it everyone’s reality.

We used atomic bombs in Japan and completely decimated Germany. We were dealing with a deranged Hitler and supporters and in Japan, a population that thought the emperor was divine There was no negotiation

Not the smartest pea in the pod.

First Putin must be defeated like Hitler @jdvancevpotus.bsky.social

He's not speaking to the educated remember... It's the uneducated who they cater too!! They are sitting in their living rooms watching this shit and are hanging onto his every lying word!! Then they'll spread it like it's truth.. I'll say it again... Stupidity has no grade level for the dummies!

LOSER JD X 2000

Vance has no clue about anything other than being a horrible human.

The only war we were engaged in that ended in negotiations was Vietnam . We withdrew and basically agreed to stop hostilities. Korea technically didn’t end . Most ended in unconditional surrender. JV is just hoping that those who follow him don’t have the brains to fact check him .

Negotiations? Only after the aggressor realized the jig was up.

This is elementary and high school history.

You can take a hillbilly out of Appalachia, but you can’t take the hillbilly out of the man.

Negotiations? What history book did he read?

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OMG Vance is stupid and proud of it!

Waste of money at Yale😵‍💫

Trump knows it is against the law to send troops to a city without the permission or request of a mayor or governor Furthermore, The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of federal military personnel, including the National Guard when under federal control, for domestic law enforcement purposes.

He’s giving Neville Chamberlain

…with one side having the upper hand.

Vietnam ended with a governmental collapse and the Korean War is technically still on.

He’s so stupid just like his daddy Donald

Clearly, JD Vance’s hillbilly ways are so close to the surface. You can take the couch-f**ker outta the hills, but ya can’t take the hillbilly outta the couch-f**ker.

I guess the losers who surrendered unconditionally, really negotiated a win-win for their respective countries.

I'd love Vance to explain how any of the wars since WWII ended. Did the Vietnam War end in negotiation? Did the Korean War end in negotiation? Did the Gulf War end in negotiation? Did the Bosnian War end in negotiation? Did the Iraqi War end in negotiation? Did the Afghan War end in negotiation?

Time for a new Downfall parody.

Vance was the white hillbilly affirmative action admit to Yale Law

Vance obviously wasn't paying attention in history class.

SOME PEOPLE SAY MILLER AND VANCE SHOULD BE JAILED WITH DJT!

History is hard!

Missed the "unconditional surrender" bit, did we?

I need a red hat that says 'JD IS WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING'.

Then there's the everpopular minority rule gambit that never seems to end well (gerrymandering without maps?). Ask Saddam Hussein or Muammar Ghaddafi. Hafez al-Assad died in office of natural causes but his kid screwed the pooch.

This is lack of education even though history is mandatory in school. He must of skipped the part about WWII and civics class too.

How the fuck did JD get into an Ivy League school? An over-qualified DEI student was denied that spot that JD occupied.

DEI: lower income who served briefly.

That common garden tool 🔧has no shame, and even lies to US about OUR IWN history.

So how do we fast forward to those, um, final negotiations?

But…. He’s preaching to a choir that sings whatever garbage he writes.

Why didn't the interviewer correct him?

Because they're all in bed with him. They legitimize him every chance they get.

Why don’t they EVER?!

This is the infuriating part. Nope. Just sit there and platform this stupid bullshit. Vance is the smart one in this exchange. He knows he can tell any lie he wants and MSM will let it slide by. Fact checking is up to the viewer.

This man (J.D.) is a BS historian…

maybe the atomic bomb having been dropped on Hiroshima was a negotiation, you couch f'er!

so jd,,, were those big bright flashes in the sky what you call negotiation???

Dude don’t know history…or much if anything else! Dumbest WH Ever!! F you GOP 🖕🏼

Republicans in the 1930s helped spread nazi propaganda and that's a fact

JD 'Just Dance' Vance surely must have graduated with a degree in history How else could one person be so skilled, so confident sharing soooo many historical facts?!

Does he know he's lying or is he just that stupid?

I don't remember Cesar, Octavian, or Caligula negotiating.