On that day, a rump Nazi government led by Grand Admiral Karl Dönitz was holed up in a naval academy gym on the Baltic coast, the Soviet flag had been raised over the Reichstag, Hitler had been dead for a week, and German forces controlled only the tiniest bit of ... Germany.
Thanks. I saw all sorts of responses to Vance, but didn’t know what lies he had spouted this time. I wonder where the last fascist MAGA troops will be hunkered down when they surrender unconditionally? Appomattox, for old time’s sake? Houston? Tupelo? There will not be a third time.
Didn't the Japanese, Also, surrender unconditionally?
Japan also surrendered unconditionally. Where was this guy in history class
JD vance the world's biggest idiot.
Vance is a clown who is trying to appease Putin and Trump. These MAGAts will say and do anything not to offend , or correct their treasonous leader. But speaking of WW2... it's a dilemma for me as I can't decide if Trump should blow his brains out like Hitler or be upside down like Mussolini.
He should be like Ceausescu and his wife (yeah, in each case, the wife/mistress gets it, too). Taken out and shot by the people he oppressed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolae...
George. This is one of Trumps 6 to 25 wars he’s ended. I lose count as more are ended all the time by his Art of the Deal negotiations. He has deserved the Nobel award for 80 years and the libs and Obama have conspired against him. Sad. Thank you for your attention to this matter.JAL
You forgot to add all the times he says “Kristen”. To be clear, JDV does not lack knowledge, but he does Lack humility and the ability to speak the truth.
Vance is a compulsive liar and manipulator. FWIW six million Jews and any millions of others were executed by Hitler’s regime and had no opportunity to negotiate. They were simply murdered. Just like what Putin is doing in Ukraine & what Trump/GOP plan to do the good old USA.
Vance is a moron.
No, JD, there was no negotiation at the end of WWII except that between the Allies as to how the corpse of the Axis was going to be carved up. JD is no better at history than he is at governing.
Goodgodalmighty. We have been invaded by ignorant idiots from all points. Let us wake up and cast out this recurring nightmare. Resist! Defeat! Replace! 2026
Can we make that the amount of the US the dickwad in the WH controls and run him out on a rail after tarring and feathering?
On the 17th of October The British Surrender to George Washington
They were still negotiating to grab the "Germans by the pussy".......
He is the greatest bullshit artist. This is nothing about what he really believes. This is bull. He has a job to create outrageous thoughts while he fiddles with his little twiddle.
JD Vance needs PBS more than anyone.
Surrender is not negotiated peace.. 😡
He can't even remember that not that long ago he wasnt a big fan of your royal emperor dicKtator Trump!
… or as our local Nazis here in Germany demand: „Let’s go back to the borders of 1945!“ 😂
Ignorance on a new level
Vance didn't pay attention in his history class....no surprise. Regime attitude about education: Let's cut it out of our funding, they(taxpayers/citizens)don't need to know. Slavery? Was never a problem. Hitler? Won, let's bring back the Nazis (especially brown shirts=ICE, and concentration camps).
"Some kind of" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. James David/Donald/Dumkopf? is being way too clever. "OK we surrender don't shoot" is technically some kind of negotiation.
News flash: Vance has no fing idea and is acting like a Russian puppet.
Try again, Dum-Dum. The negotiations were to surrender.
Germany must have been a horrible negotiator if they negotiated an unconditional surrender, eh?
This map is not correct. The German troops in Denmark and Norway surrended in the evening of May 4th.
Except for Bornholm.
Correct. Until 9th of May. I apologize.
I don't understand all the details, but it would appear that it was General Montgomery who delayed the negotiations of a surrender in Norway to 8 May. There were 350.000 German troops in Norway, so I think he was trying to avoid a blood shed.
What about the British Channel Islands? They weren’t liberated until much later
I was just checking to make sure. The message came out at 8.34pm on the night of May 4th. It stated that the German troops in Holland, Northern Germany and Denmark had surrendered.
Exactly :-) "I dette Øjeblik meddeles det, at Montgomery har oplyst, at de tyske Tropper i Holland, Nordvesttyskland og i Danmark har overgivet sig. Her er London. Vi gentager: Montgomery har i dette Øjeblik meddelt, at de tyske Tropper i Holland, Nordvesttyskland og Danmark har overgivet sig"
No negotiations w/Germany nor Japan ONLY surrender! Only negotiation taking place was how to carve up Germany between the allies & Russia AFTER Germany surrendered! Vance uses historical lies as a rationale to carve up Ukraine! Putin wants back that big slice Stalin got in WWII. Vance is willing!
I love the fact I can zoom in and read the articles.
Not nothing, they stand for hate, jealousy, kidnapping POC, child rape & murder of anyone that doesn’t worship trumpy(mark my words, it’s coming)
Rewriting history and teaching the maga fictional version, is critical for trump's regime to control the minds of his followers. Obscuring actual facts creates confusion. trump will forceably divide and conquer, (illegal, domestic military deployments) as he attemptes to steal the 2026 midterms
So how does this work any country can start an unjustified war and that guarantees them a concession prize?
Patton was right Vance isnt
Guess #JDPogue 's soul wasn't worth all that much in the first place, judging from how cheaply he sold it.
Even WWI there has been no negotiation between the opponents. France UK and USA forced Germany to accept the Versailles treaty without negotiation. The non negotiable conditions of this treaty are also one of the cause of WWII. JD Vance always lies knowing it just like migrants eating dogs and cats
Jaydee's private reality and grasp of history are tenuous at best, ludicrous and self serving.
MAGAs are incredibly ignorant and stupid and will believe whatever they are told by Trump and his sycophants.
Well, it is obvious why J(ethro) D. Vance did not become a history teacher.
Stupid a stupid stupid, that's what he thinks we are
I didn't realize that Nagasaki was a sophisticated negotiating ploy.
Vance is soooo dumb
Ironic that now Germany reports that The Washington Post has surrendered its journalistic integrity to the Nazi’s. Oh how times change
It's called VE Day for a reason. It's "Victory in Europe Day" NOT "End of Negotiations Day".
Albert Speer's memoirs include the period between Hitler's death and 8 May 1945. The government officially moved from Berlin to Flensburg, and for a week, Speer and other officials went through the motions of governing when they had in fact nothing to govern and no way to govern it if they had.
After the fighting stopped.
Doesn’t say much for his education. Ohio State???
MAGA being negociated with in November 2026: youtu.be/2FttbI-Vxrs?...
Yale should revoke his degree. Vance is just another lying, stupid pedo protector.
The ignorance of the man who will likely become President once Trump goes to meet his maker is appalling.
Japan as well.
I guess those two nuclear bombs were “negotiation” too 🙄
The Civil War also ended in unconditional surrender.
If there was negotiation after the Civil War, we might still have slavery. Or perhaps there would still be the Confederacy.
He should change his name AGAIN
I guess history isn't JDs strong suit...
Won't happen this time. We'll need to remove them by force. That's what the 2A is for
Vance, the son of a drug addict, probably raised on Medicaid Is a moron
The Germans had already surrendered in Denmark, the Netherlands and northern bits of Germany on 5 May, with celebrations starting the night before. So the map does not show 8 May correctly.
JV Dance has a way of smiling while he’s lying that makes him as hate worthy as Ted Cruz or Steven Miller. He talks like he’s lecturing a bunch of third graders who haven’t done their homework . He assumes his audience is as gullible as they are stupid .
they negotiated not to die by surrendering
Vance is trying to rewrite the history of Nazis to make modern day dictators seem more "reasonable" in their murderous plans and actions.
Vance maybe take a history lesson
The GOP loves to rewrite history
Pure Ignorance‼️
Vance isn't MATURE ENOUGH to understand basic history many of our relatives lived through
What Vance is apparently not alluding to—is the land grab Stalin undertook at the end of WWII. His malign maneuver we are still flighting to remedy today.
they don't know historical facts . . . nor do they care . . . they are re-writing and ignoring history so it suits their narrative
Let Russia negotiate pull out of Crimea!
Fm. Model negotiated with his Walther.
Scoreboard
He never paid attention in school, as never did his boss
The best negotiation will come with the destruction of oligarch fascism. VOTE
This is an illegal newspaper/newsletter that my grandparents saved from Monday, May 7th 1945 (I've added a rough Norwegian to English translation of the top half in the Alt-text)
So what you’re saying is that other than all these tiny details, Vance very nearly didn’t make himself look like a total fool?
Vance, in this statement, has possibly said one of the stupidest things a VP has ever deliberately let slip from their idiot thought centers. The deliberate or more likely ignorance of not understanding how the largest War in History ended is shameful.
Yet the press / media / the public largely ignore or don't challenge it. This is the concerning part to me Where did it all go wrong?
Its almost as if the far right took the old Soviet play book and decided to implement it here, with a few twists and alterations to suit the average American mind. Im 44 and we went from the cold war to russia is the victim in my lifetime. It didnt take long to gut the country like a fish
After Dan Quayle, that’s impressive.
Quayle was when I was 7-11 years old, but I remember him being made fun of relentlessly on SNL and other places for his gaffes and dumb statements. JD has surely surpassed
This collection of Dan Quayle speeches, interviews, etc always makes me laugh. In his defense, he at least didn’t have malicious intent, he was simply ignorant. It’s more jarring seeing twelve year olds asking more intelligent questions than today’s average adult. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN0t...
Those kids on the bus are better interviewers than most anyone in corporate media today. We really have regressed badly on the whole.
The contrast between kids asking questions about the draft with more concern and reason against today’s average [Republican] adult shouting conspiracy theories and personal insults is striking. We really have lost the plot globally. Being British-American living bet Berlin and NY, it’s everywhere.
Once you wrote "lost the plot" I knew you were English / British. Being a LFC and Premier league fan and listening to a lot of Irish and English podcasts the "Brit speak" is detectable by myself. But to your point, we really have devolved intellectually to a place that is quite pathetic
lol yup it’s more “transatlantic”. Back stateside, people often think I’m Canadian - only a few pick up on it. Back in London, RP. In Berlin, I’m all over the place. Fellow Brit-Am Gillian Anderson is a perfect example. It’s chilling how far we’ve fallen. Social media certainly hasn’t helped.
Please share with Vance.
That map is all kinds of wrong *
Does he consider dropping the atomic bomb a negotiation as well?
unconditional surrender doesn't sound much like a negotiation...
JD "Just Dance" Vance singing a little tune in his head 🎶🎵🎶🎵 "Don't know much about history, don't know jack about Geography"
It is Vance's condescending manner, combined with his arrogance, that just grate with me, especially when his facts are wrong.
Exactly, Nick25, JD Vance always exudes this air of somebody thinking he knows better, and is entitled to more, than others (and his actions, such as raising the water level to canoe, show that he really feels that entitled). I cannot stand him.
Vance will say whatever he thinks will please the nincompoop in charge. Truth has no relevance in such a pathetic dictatorial regime.
cough, cough, the Appomattox Court House
Treating the public with contempt is Trump’s (and the people in his orbit) MO. Suckers and losers. Which goes to prove that MAGA is just a con being played out on those same suckers and losers.
I guess Ohio State and Yale Law are shit schools.
The negotiation is how the winners are gonna split up the spoils
The Nazis fell because Berlin fell. Good to remember when fighting Putler and the PedoFührer.
One day later, Denmark freed and the retribution against Nazi sympathizers was swift. Like that very day swift.
This was before Bezos though. Now it would read “Germany to move on from past misgivings”
Japan also, unconditional surrender. Land swaps are only in "The World According to Trump". He has always been looking for a way to make Ukraine surrender. Traitor.
Vance can't negotiate. Look who he works for. 47 just knows how to threaten or cave. #TACO
He is as smart as Trump 🙄🙄🙄
Thought you missed a “T” there.. “a rump Nazi..”
Please, please, please can somebody stop this idiot from talking such monumental rubbish! He hurts my ears and my brain.
Ivy League education isn’t all it’s cracked up to be for ‘inventive’ people like Vance.
Everyone empowering Trump needs to realize that consolidating the power of the President through loopholes in the law is going to give the NEXT one ALL of those abilities. You may love Trump will you be just as in love with who is up next?
Knowledge of history can be ignored.
JD’s grasp of history isn’t very good. No negotiation with Japan, either.
Sure there was. It went “surrender or we’ll drop another one”. Not that we had another one.
They know their vocal minority base will believe their revisionist history due to a lack of education and personal biases. The world sees their lies as what they are: manipulation.
We won’t be negotiating with this regime. Total surrender is the only thing we will accept.
Vance is, I believe, a Yale man
Law school. Undergraduate the Ohio State Buckeye
So did Japan. We only focus on one theater of operation. Read Japans Longest Day. It chronicles Japans decisions after the Potsdam meeting while they waited for Russia to come to their aide
WaPo = Fake News
Not much negotiation in Vietnam where the US just packed up and left
It is so sad that Americans need to be educated even about this
Neither did Japan negotiate before surrendering.
One of the last things Hitler said was he blamed the German people for his failure
Hitler flooded Berlin's subway system tunnels with water, at rush hour, to kill as many German citizens as possible, as Narcissistic Retribution against Germans/Germany for losing World War Two. This happened mere days before Hitler committed suicide.
I've never heard that before... Do you know who he got to do that?
I am not sure, unfortunately. One of my university Dept. of History professors mentioned this little known fact, during a lecture that involved the end of World War Two in Nazi Germany. Apparently thousands were drowned during these incidents. It fits, because Fascists always devour their own.
Amazing.
And most of Germany's cities were flattened. They are still digging bombs out
Didn’t we drop a bomb on Japan to end the war with them? That’s one hell of a negotiation.
“Unconditionally” being the operative word. Without exception, this administration believes their followers will believe anything. When will they realize how insulting that is?
I think he knows the factual history. And he knows that the MAGA base doesn’t care. Look how they reacted to all of Trump’s false history for 10 years. This is just VP buying time for Putin to avoid more US sanctions by putting the onus on Zelenskyy.
Wrong again JD
it's mind boggling, he's quisling.
Perhaps he was thinking of the negotiation following the epic duel between King Arthur and the Black Knight. After all, the Black Knight only suffered a flesh wound.
And then negotiations begun.
JD Vance is an idiot.
He is an opportunist. JD Vance has taken advantage of every crack you can slither through. He has made money not through brains. Perhaps it's called cunning, but it is it the way Rattlesnake catches his dinner
Maybe Vance should read history instead of molesting couches.
Is this true JD????? Did you take American history in 3rd grade? Did you go to college?????
He’s a fiction writer.
Those who do not have a deep knowledge of history are mere empty vessels …
