I have my own harsh criticisms of how the media has covered this era, but I'm mystified at this perspective.
I have my own harsh criticisms of how the media has covered this era, but I'm mystified at this perspective.
The leader of American journalism, the NYT, has treated Trump as a controversial figure, not as the existential threat he is. The lesser "msm" organs, like the USA Today. WaPo, CBS, CNN have either followed that example or simply submmitted. The Atlantic, Wired, The Intercept are noble, but niche.
I agree w/ everything you said except about the Kompromat-ized Intercept.
I guess Jaime Harrison is hoping if he pushes his head far enough down into the sand, he'll strike oil.
The mainstream news media isn't worthy of anyone's viewing time. It's nothing more than conservative managed propaganda machines.
Biden, Schumer, Jeffries, Harrison, consultants, etc....none of these Dem "leaders" will EVER take responsibility. The Dem party will not recover until there is accountability and heads roll. Can Dems pick up seats in the mid term? Yes, because Trump is so bad, not bc Dems are very good.
Why?
Not wrong, it’s all around giving the current administration a soft fall landing on all their questions and reporting. Wouldn’t wanna ruffle any feathers or do something unconventional LIKE THEIR JOB
You know it’s uneven coverage. T is old and says crazy demented stuff. The media ignores what they criticized Biden for because T controls their mergers. Media isn’t afraid of Ds. They’re afraid of T. Thus the uneven coverage. Follow the money. Maybe you’re also scared of your corp master.
I get it. The mainstream media is normalizing the GOP authoritarian narrative and framing the opposition as feckless and unserious, instead of providing serious pushback against lie after lie after lie.
Right, it’s not very complicated.
Here's another perspective (in the spirit that momentum builds momentum - we have to highlight & applaud the good things and encourage they keep going and get everyone to do more. All doom and gloom paralyzes, demotivates and snuffs out action ) bsky.app/profile/arie...
Katie Hill's treatment vs any GOP sexual scandal?
I’m proud that I never married it.
Mystified? Really?
Strange because it is exactly what we experience every day watching DEMS get torn down by panels and tr&&p or GOP lackies get ignored.
Jaime Harrison was never part of the solution.
The media has a way of framing the news from a republican perspective as default, so dems naturally seem defensive and reactive. On the other hand you wouldn’t know that dem senators have thwarted judicial nominations and slowed down the republican agenda because the media finds it boring.
GOP has groomed media since Gingrich's lists. We see the results of 30 years of 4th estate uncritically echoing GOP agitprop Message of the Day in trade for access. The real revolution we need requires an engaged media willing to challenge, investigate, & report objectively with context in real time
It’s called investigative journalism and these days it’s a quaint vestige of the past. 60 mins owned that space forever.
Is it the last line that mystifies you? Me, too. But what precedes it is spot-on.
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Media continues normalizing right wing extremism, failing at demanding recognition of the sickness.
Both things can be true Their head is in the sand, but the media also treats the parties as he says
Somehow the intended message seems caught in an absence of clarity.... Do you mean to say that news coverage of Democrat activity/comments/etc. makes the proverbial mountain out of a molehill, while coverage of GOP extremist actions/commentary/etc. is not the focus of any coverage? i.e. media bias?
I guess you haven’t failed upward hard enough?
I agree with his assesment. He said "part of the problem", not "the entire problem". Dems have massive problems internally, esp. leadership, big money, a spine. The media has also absolutely enabled the rise of fascism by "both sides"-ing everything instead of calling out obvious facts vs. lies.
You're mystified at this perspective? I think its just fact.
CNN was asking every Dems that they interviewed if what Cali was doing in response to TX redistricting coup was the right thing to do? CNN did not call out TX brazen bad faith, but was quick to question the Dems response. This is close to what Harrison is saying. The media is corrupted by the GOP.
Good example of journalism today.
Personally, as an Independent, I'm tired of the sane washing of the media towards Trump and MAGA, and the feckless responses of most Dems towards the same BS. Why they aren't covering Trump like Biden last year is disgusting. And Dems just wring their hands. Wake up, folks...
George, please clarify your comment.
George, please clarify your comment.
Dems are corp and AIPAC owned, have little interest in improving the lives of their voters. Stacked with old money grabbing parasites. Silent when the loudest voices should be raised.
I get the general statement, but not the posters further statements- as I do not see that the case for MSNBC. But other mainstream media does seem to question &criticize Democrats differently than GOP and Trump. Take Trumps health for just one. If Biden was missing for a day - they’d spend 2wk on it
Wasn’t there a huge scandal when Lloyd Austin (?) was incommunicado for a few days due to surgery or something? Republicans have co-opted the media referees and the media has been beat into submission and now basically have crazy impossible standards for Dems and none for Republicans!
Oh yes, I forgot! Exactly
Jaime is 💯 right.
It’s a double-pronged problem and a cop out imo
Really? Obama’s beige suit and birth certificate, Hilary’s emails and misstep, Biden’s proclivity for being a touchy person and Alzheimer’s…where is the media on tRump’s health and Epstein Files?
I would love to hear more, maybe when you chat again with @sarahlongwell25.bsky.social
The entire world is laughing while simultaneously staring at the U.S. in disbelief. Media has failed you. News is now pundits trying to score political points. It’s insane.
I just got back to the US today after a few weeks abroad. I’ve been to 60+ countries over the last 20 years and this time the vibe was completely different. Nobody was laughing, it was pity and disappointment.
The influence of media vs education.
In my opinion Jamie is very weak, horrible when he headed DNC and Ali is awesome. Mainstream media is awful but not Ali
Because you agree or disagree?
George, you confused us... 🤔
I’m curious as to why you’re mystified. Do you think what @jaimeharrison.bsky.social said is wrong?
He was just another status quo guy who wanted to play nice, when then time for nice had passed, especially after Jan 6. Biden was too nice to hire an AG who would get serious about prosecuting, and too nice when the Supremes let #FirstFelon delay everything. NO MORE NICE FOR AN EXISTENTIAL FIGHT!
He’s a party hack whose job it is to hype the Democrats downplay their share of the blame.
Huh?
So much apathy and so many tuned out +media is horrendous. Can’t watch anymore
If he thinks trump is doing a good job then he should FOCUS- Fk Off Cuz U Stupid
Why are you mystified? I know MSNBC has a lot of Never Trumpers on, but they don't really convey what Democrats are doing.
What’s mystifying about it? The man is making a valid point.
Where is the NRA now that actual tyranny of govt is here? Where is the TEA Party now that tariffs are here? Where are the Christ (an immigrant) followers now that the govt is disappearing migrants? Last where are protectors of children now that the GOP is protecting pedophiles? They’re so quiet.
Is this the same Jaime that lost a senate run against ms Lyndsey in sc and that sort of elevated him to dnc chair and we lost mid terms next time and next general. Not quite sure what George was perplexed about but whatever, Harrison ain’t the answer
Jaime is not wrong.
This is the double standard that Gavin is exposing.
Time to move away from mainstream media!
Fox has programmed Americans to believe the left is evil and that the right can do no wrong. It's disgusting. They are a huge part of the problem that needs to be fixed in this country.
I get it. There are certain people in medialand who want to cynically use this crisis to push out serious Democrats for the unserious bomb throwers on the left who claim they are the base, but aren't actual reliable dem voters. Catering to DSA and the ratfucking Bernie left is bad for the party.
What exactly are you mystified by? He is spot on.
Ngl, this perspective sounds pretty darn accurate to me.
Welcome to the circular firing squad.
Ali Veshi isn’t a Democratic Party anything. This isn’t a circular firing squad.
Jaime Harrison is, so yes it's a circular firing squad.
It’s people like Harrison that have cost Democrats voters. Let’s not forget he supported Biden even after it was clear Biden was too old to run.
I had no idea Jamie had so many fans. That thread is full of Democrats who are in denial.
Ali's or Jaime's? I'm in Jaime's camp. But I'm just some rando from randoland that votes.
I had the same question! I’m so confused.
Dude there’s a lot of folks on this app(they’ve all attacked me tonight) who can’t hear that dems need to do more and feel the only issue is the media. To be sure many in the media are horrendous. But come on- asking Dems to get a marketing and communications strategy shouldn’t be attacked.
This Dem agrees with you. It’s almost like they’ve thought we’re above it all. Always bringing our ethics to gun fights. Predictable outcomes often.
Yes, the media IS a problem which makes a communications and marketing strategy *all the more important*. The good party people I talk with seem to think that asking more from the party than their traditionally (self)defined roles is ignorant and it’s up to us to figure out the way the party works.
YES!!!! Someone who gets it!!
Maybe you are not objective given you still earn a living as a participant in the punditry... As an observer, Jaime is spot-on.
The left needs its own version of Fox “News”. But like everything else on the left, it will be full of facts and receipts. There’s already great reporting on YouTube, so there needs to be a tv network competing with Fox and doing the same things they do, but with truth and integrity.
Like having Gavin Newsome calling in and given softball interviews while letting him troll Trump like he has been doing. I think if a network put this on, it would get ratings and help build a larger base.
The MSM make all of their money by having high standards for democrats and NO STANDARD for republicans.
I see everyone passing judgement on both parties, people who voted and people who didn't vote, churches, media,Palestinians, Jews, Christians and atheists, baby boomers, millennials and gen z. The truth is we don't know how to fix this. Taking a stand against oppression is dangerous and terrifying.
Democratic aren’t suing them
I agree with Harrison.
GEORGE, he's right. I find it very frustrating that YOU don't get it. It's the primary problem in my book: Trump/Republicans are never held to the same standards of decency, for example.
hah, it is just gut instinct for the classic "lifetime republican" to just point fingers at (D) at this point for even shitty weather at this point. even the "never-trumpers" and "one-time-trumpers" love to hitch that bandwagon.
Jaimes weak leadership depressed the base
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