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Public Universal Fiend @publicuniversal.bsky.social

Like if you had idk a CSU like Republican Party and not voting for the Dems meant there was a reasonable chance CSU won, ok that would suck but there’s a reasonable tradeoff of upside risk versus internal leverage and pols can make intelligent decisions about the cost of alienating XYZ side.

apr 12, 2025, 3:16 am • 6 0

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student of the guilty✨ @carodjah.bsky.social

It’d be more like knowing one candidate said “I will disappear your neighbors based on skin color, take away your rights, and make your food poison, and I promise I might stop a war” And another said “I promise I might stop a war, otherwise do some good things” And 🤞 the disappearings won’t happen

apr 12, 2025, 10:50 am • 0 0 • view
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student of the guilty✨ @carodjah.bsky.social

Like, your framing presented it as “genocide will probably continue regardless so fuck everyone” but the ‘everyone’ included not just Palestinians; there’s also the local—the neighbor, the family, the coworker, the friend, the stranger getting fucked and/or killed now.

apr 12, 2025, 10:53 am • 0 0 • view
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student of the guilty✨ @carodjah.bsky.social

And no it’s not a “only care if it impacts me,” because obvi it’s not. It’s a “this will impact an entire people” vs a “this will impact an entire people plus many, many more people.” Sensibly, protecting as many as possible should win out.

apr 12, 2025, 10:55 am • 0 0 • view
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student of the guilty✨ @carodjah.bsky.social

But crossing fingers and sitting out, *hoping* the lower number of casualties happens even if the actual literal fash gets in, is…indefensible, immoral, unjustifiable, other adjectives.

apr 12, 2025, 10:57 am • 0 0 • view
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Public Universal Fiend @publicuniversal.bsky.social

And without this you need a sense of actual buy-into the party’s outlook, which the Dems don’t do well because they’ve let the kind of ordinary orgs connecting party to base wither and get Consultanted

apr 12, 2025, 3:23 am • 3 0 • view
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Public Universal Fiend @publicuniversal.bsky.social

In any case i think basically everyone in this fight badly miscalculated how salient I/P actually is politically and how much leverage the pro-Palestinian half of the party had.

apr 12, 2025, 3:20 am • 3 0 • view