A friend recently found out I hadn’t read Lonesome Dove and gave me one of those looks that said, “Have I misjudged you all these years?” He was right. It is amazing. Like Cormac McCarthy if he wasn’t depressed.
A friend recently found out I hadn’t read Lonesome Dove and gave me one of those looks that said, “Have I misjudged you all these years?” He was right. It is amazing. Like Cormac McCarthy if he wasn’t depressed.
I named my son Augustus, “Gus,” because of Lonesome Dove. It was my father’s favorite book. He was dying and I wanted to memorialize him
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Love this.
One of my absolute favorite books is by Larry McMurtry (and Diana Ossana). It's called Zeke & Ned. I can not recommend it more than I recommend it. Also, Lonesome Dove is pretty friggin' swell.
Oh yeah. It’s great. And I don’t even enjoy cowboy type novels but this is so enjoyable on many levels. So many different storylines. I’m due for a reread.
Cadillac Jack is another road story and hilarious. Enduring love for Lonesome Dove
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Added to the list. :)
I read the entire book starting about 45 minutes after the 94 Northridge earthquake. Scared shitless and couldn't sleep, so I parked myself under a kids play table, for protection of course, and read that fucker. Epic.
I dismissed larry as the type of fluff my grandpa would read mass paperback style, but then i read a different nyrb piece on him a few years after he passed and i had the realization hes been pegged all wrong. I bought "walter benjamin at the dairy queen" and its great, who knew?
Good book!
The whole series is amazing, the sequel streets of Laredo imho is just as good.
Have just finished it, thought it was brilliant!
I’m 53. I remember most good books, but I read 2 books in my 20’s that I still think about like it was just yesterday. One is Lonesome Dove, the other is Aztec by Gary Jennings.
Did not know about this book and now must must read it. Thank you! And Lonesome Dove is unforgettable.
Be forewarned-it’s pretty gruesome.
AZTEC BY GARY JENNINGS! Me, too! The Flowery Death!
I’m fangirling, Peter!
For decades, I have been reminded of this book every time I'm in the produce section of the grocery store.
I don’t get it now, but hoping that becomes clear shortly.
Okay, I'll give you a hint: it's in chapter 3. It probably says something about me as a much younger woman that this has stayed with me all this time (and what it says would be correct, too), but as a mature senior citizen I'd like to say I've outgrown all that. I'd like to. I sure would. LOL
Love the analogy. Was just trying to explain the dichotomy in McCarthy's work yesterday. You nailed it.
Check out The Last Picture Show. And Reading Benjamin at the Dairy Queen. I would put him more in the category of Wallace Stegner than Cormac. I adore them both but not as much nihilism in McMurtry.
I've never liked westerns, cowboy movies, the wild west, etc., but I did read Lonesome Dove and found it amazing, a great read.
Read that as a teen, still haunts me. So so good. Should re-read. And the tv series did a pretty good job too.
Best book! I give it to everyone who hasn't read it.
Check out the Berrybender Narrative series.
Saw it many years ago! Great!
Such a good book!!! Even my Bible Belt, West Michigan schooling from the 90's had us reading that.
I began writing a book on the American West inspired by one of my ancestors. But I don't read a lot of westerns and wanted to see how authors handled certain things so I read Lonesome Dove. AMAZING.
Fun fact: Larry McMurtry's son James is a pretty unique country musician. I recommend "Choctaw Bingo" as a good track to start with.
“Choctaw Bingo” should be the Oklahoma state song, but my favorite is “Charlemagne’s Hometown”. The first time I heard him live, years ago in a small club in Denton, his voice was so resonant it made me think of standing inside a cello. I don’t think I’d categorize him as country, but Austin.
> Like Cormac McCarthy if he wasn’t depressed. That's a sentence I'm going to remember for a long time.
One of my favorite fiction books ever.
Hate how he does Newt in the sequel
The prequels and sequels are also very good.
Wait til you discover how talented a writer and musician his son James is!!!!!
I'm lucky to have a signed copy from a meeting on the University of Washington campus. The TV series does the book justice. Larry said he didn't watch it.
best mini-series ever
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I must be the strange duck out. I liked the TV series even better than the books.
You’re not alone. The mini series was so well done. I feel like I’ve truly lost my own friend when Gus dies. I mourn for at least a week after I watch it, every time.
If we get the choice “It’s been quite a party, Cudro” Should be everyone’s dying breath.
An amazing book
Oh man, I wish I could read it again for the first time.
Generally, everything written by McMurtry is a really great read. Now that you're familiar with Larry, check out his son James McMurtry. He got his dad's writing ability but does it with music instead of novels.
Picks up where all of Louis L'Amour books leave off. Classic western, with descriptions of the actual countrysides involved.
Lonesome Dove is one of my all time favorite books. It really is amazing.
My favorite McMurtry is All My Friend Are Going to Be Strangers and Terms of Endearment (they share the same characters). The latter was unfortunately turned into a terrible film that is nothing like the novel (I hope you haven't seen the film, but if you have it won't spoil the book for you.)
Oh my gosh! My whole family passed that book around to each other. What a great read. Have you seen the mini-series?
we don’t rent pigs !!
...agree 100%, masterful.
Loved Lonesome Dove in all forms ! Cheers! Now read The Cowboy and the Cossack, By Claire Huffaker! My favorite of all time,so far.
one of my favorite books EVER.
Absolutely, me too.
Stunning book. It changed me.
I really like the original miniseries. I’ve been meaning to read the books.
Absolutely one of my all time favorites!!
I read it about 30 years ago and loved it. And I started re-reading it a few days ago. Looking forward to being drawn in and deeply impressed all over again.
LD is a masterpiece.
An astonishing, stunning work.
The AI summary of the plot when you search on Google is hilarious. Apparently, it's the story of a woman named July who is taking care of her invalid husband and thev story is all about her struggles. Lol.
That's one of those books I pull out and read again every few years
An older friend of mine used to gush about McMurtry and McCarthy interchangeably. If Charles Portis had a Scottish patronymic surname we could probably wedge him in there too.
God I love Portis. Nobody writes dialogue like him. The Coens basically farmed out their screenplay to him and it worked.
I love the mini series - it was so perfectly cast! I rewatch it about once a year. That's also how often I re-read the book.
fun fact originally robert duvall was cast as woodrow but turned it down to audition as gus
Now I'm imagining a world where Jones and Duvall's roles were reversed and my brain rejects it as impossible. There has never been a more perfectly cast film.
Gus Smirkiness was way better portrayed by Duvall than by Jones.
Jones is an incredible actor, but I don't think he could have played Gus McCrea. But he absolutely nailed Woodrow Call.
Oddly enough, having never seen it, but knowing Duvall was in it, I assumed he played Call. And it didn’t seem right. But there’s no better actor for Call than Jones. He learned his stoicism at Harvard.
Within 5 minutes of watching, you'll instantly learn that it was cast perfectly. Both Duvall and Jones buried themselves in the book to play their rolls.
Duvall *might* have been able to pull off Call. I could believe that. But no way Jones could have played McCrea. I don't think he has the snark and facial expression.
Exactly. Duvall and Jones made one of the best Duos in TV history with that.
Couldn't agree more. For all the classic cinema out there, I can't think of a better match for the characters they played in those rolls.
He was right to do so! It’s a better part!
Robert Duvall is sublime.
Looking forward to watching it !
When I was laid off years ago for around 6 months, I watched it daily. Get up late, fry some bacon, crack open a beer, and watch Lonesome Dove. Even 15 years later I can still quote the entire 6.5 hour miniseries.
Gus ❤️🩹 …
Well, well worth watching. Extraordinary in it’s own way
I’m reading it for the first time now in my fifties. It’s so so so good.
But..you're Peter Sagal. I thought you'd read everything already
One of my favorite authors.
I didn’t read Lonesome Dove until I was in my late 30s. Still the only western I have ever read. youtu.be/m3n79Zst9ac?...
Agreed. Very good book
Ah, one of the very few true classics of Wild West Fiction.
My old photography website had the following disclaimer- I don't shoot weddings, and I don't rent pigs. Anyone who understood the reference got a discount just for being groovy.
Check out his son, James McMurtry’s music. He has his dad’s gift condensed in song.
It's an amazing read
I’ve only seen the TV adaptation’s, and they’re terrific. Val Kilmer has a good role.
Oh man I loved that whole series. A man who loves him some men. In what way I don't know. But it just oozes off the page. He loves their flaws and he loves their mess and he loves their mistakes and he loves their moments of brilliance and bravery.
Glad you have such good friends.
So am I!
One quibble: my commemorative edition has a forward by McMurtry about how he came to write the book and he casually drops a huge spoiler about one of the major characters. WTF, sir?
Glad you read it. I haven't read a ton of fiction in my adulthood, and I don't really like Southern fiction... but turns out my 4 favorite novels are ALL Southern. Including this one. (Dove + All The King's Men, Kill/Mockingbird, Prince of Tides)
Now I need to read The King’s Men because I love the other three. Prince of Tides guts me every time I read it.😩
Yeah, 'All The King's Men' by Robert Penn Warren is really something special. 'Prince of Tides' is my favorite. Guts me, too. Inasmuch as it argues that "In families, there are no sins beyond forgiveness," DAMN, it really demands the reader engage that question for their own family. Oof.
I’m glad you mentioned it. I’m always looking for recommendations. Thanks💕
You're welcome. I hope you enjoy it.
Oof is right😕
Oh man…foreword is a must-skip for a classic you’re reading for the first time.
I came to say this. As a former English prof, I always gave my students that same advice. If you want to catch a classic in all its nakedness, don’t read the re-matter!
Read the same version and couldn't believe that he dropped that in the forward. I felt somewhat robbed of the pure experience, as if "The Crying Game" had included the gender reveal in the opening credits.
I was going to watch the Crying Game and The Sixth Sense for the first time tonight. What do you mean, "gender reveal"?
"Oh, and that Dove? He won't be so lonesome by the end of this story."
You read the forward first?
I do.
If it shouldn't be, perhaps it should be placed last?
They put it at the front of the book, David.
Nice burn
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My copy was in Hebrew. Back of the book.
I think you're being unreasonable. I mean, who reads Lonesome Dove for the first time?
I always read forwards and introductions after I’ve read the book. Like watching a movie and then the extras on how they made it.
That description was perfect.
If I'm not mistaken (please note that I could be mistaken) that was an article about the book that was first published elsewhere. I don't think McMurty had anything to do with using it as a forward to the book.
I loved it. I read it cover to cover one hot and humid August bank holiday on my deck in Brussels knowing that one day, I'd live there too - which I did.
Planning to teach part of McMurtry’s Colonel and Little Missie (about Buffalo Bill & Annie Oakley) next spring and Lonesome Dove keeps coming up as a must-read. Guess I know what I’m reading this summer.
About 20 years ago I read almost the entire McMurtry canon starting with Lonesome Dove. He was a once-in-a-lifetime storyteller.
A wonderful read
In the 80s, I bought a $2 paperback version from one of those circular bookstands drugstores used to have so I’d have something to read at the laundromat. 12 hours later, at 2 am, still reading and skipping a Saturday night out with friends, because I could not put it down.
I miss the ubiquity of the racks. And the squeak they made as you turned tgem
One of the books that I finished reading and immediately started reading over again because I wasn’t ready to let go of the characters. 💜
Leaving Cheyenne is a wonderful novel of the changing west. It's my favorite McMurtry novel.
It is honestly
It's so goddamn good. Highly recommend the audiobook version while swimming (or, for you, running). The miles just disappear.
Lonesome Dove is the only book that ever made me cry
Larry McMurtry's writing has made me shed the most tears of any author, but I don't begrudge him this. He develops complex characters and doesn't use cheap sentimentality manipulating readers. I have learned to welcome those literary crying jags. He is very life-affirming and wise.
He has no qualms about killing off his main characters. That's my only gripe!😉
Have you ever grieved a dead character and gone back to read the chapters prior to their demise? That's my sad literary death defense mechanism. 😢
Yes, but I'm reading again hoping against hope for a different outcome.
Haha we readers are such weirdos.
The crazy thing was, I read LD when I was 21 and was deep in my cynical college phase … and, boom. I was surprised why I did and that I did.
I didn’t cry, but I was utterly devastated by one character’s death, and was surprised at the depth of my feeling for a made up person.
Deets.