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Laurie Voss @seldo.com

I understand that perspective but I think the vast majority of people using LLMs are using them as tools, not as totally autonomous servants. I think using a tool to make web development faster is still being a web developer.

aug 25, 2025, 2:36 am • 2 0

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Konnor Rogers @konnorrogers.com

Thats where it gets tricky. Do I become a web dev once I start editing the code given to me by the LLM? If I got the HTML from some pre-built HTML template and edited that, how is that different from editing a pre-built HTML template from an LLM?

aug 25, 2025, 2:39 am • 1 0 • view
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Laurie Voss @seldo.com

I think you become a web developer the second you start reading the generated code and trying to understand what it does, which is to say immediately.

aug 25, 2025, 2:41 am • 2 0 • view
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Undafiend|Foundation @undafiend.com

maybe if they try to understand *before* pasting it into their tag manager and costing their company a bug bounty, rather than afterward

aug 25, 2025, 4:11 am • 0 0 • view
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Konnor Rogers @konnorrogers.com

At the end of the day it should really be a tool in the tool belt. A LLM can't make a decision, and therefore can't be held liable for said decisions. If your answer is "well the LLM said it was fine", we have big problems.

aug 25, 2025, 4:17 am • 1 0 • view
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Undafiend|Foundation @undafiend.com

word for word, that’s how the same client continues to defend pasting untested code despite the security fiasco other day I mentioned something wouldn’t work on slow mobile (attempt to work around a race w/setTimout) and *even when I demoed it failing* they said ‘well chatgpt said it was fine’

aug 25, 2025, 4:28 am • 2 0 • view
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Undafiend|Foundation @undafiend.com

if you can’t wake someone up with a HackerOne report then I’m thinking they’re not a web developer

aug 25, 2025, 4:28 am • 2 0 • view
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Konnor Rogers @konnorrogers.com

Apathy can be found across all skill levels unfortunately :/

aug 25, 2025, 4:32 am • 1 0 • view
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Undafiend|Foundation @undafiend.com

yeah fair point in my exp every company has a vulnerability they’ve been hand-waving internally for years hell even every CISO has the things they care about and the things they help minimize

aug 25, 2025, 4:35 am • 0 0 • view
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Konnor Rogers @konnorrogers.com

"its just 1 security vulnerability Michael, what could it cost...$10?"

aug 25, 2025, 4:30 am • 2 0 • view
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Undafiend|Foundation @undafiend.com

fr the fact it was only $5K blew my mind because it made [major electronics manufacturer].com an engine for all kinds of hijinks

aug 25, 2025, 4:36 am • 0 0 • view
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Konnor Rogers @konnorrogers.com

It'd be like me saying "oh the 4lead said they had a pulse", but never actually checking for a manual pulse on the patient.

aug 25, 2025, 4:17 am • 1 0 • view
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Chris Ferdinandi @cferdinandi.bsky.social

That’s a fair and nuanced take, though presuming most folks actually do that feels like a leap

aug 25, 2025, 3:39 am • 2 0 • view