if they are out of touch with current society why is that society re-electing them?
if they are out of touch with current society why is that society re-electing them?
Because our system has developed effective means of shielding that from the electorate. Aides issuing comments instead, going on friendly media outlets, etc.
younger representatives also have aides and also prefer friendly media outlets
Younger representatives are much less likely to have mental capacity issues that are masked by those.
what they are much less likely to have is experience
it is very strange to assume that older people all suffer from mental incapacitation
How in the world did you interpret "less likely" as "all"?
let me put this another way i am older than a 20 year old. does that mean i am more likely to suffer from mental incapacitation and should therefore not have my job have i lost touch with society because i cant tell you what the point of a skibidi toilet is
Who said they should never have a job, or even shouldn't be elected? All I said was that the fact that there are disadvantages to older representatives that can be hidden and disguised is a problem that isn't solved. Not all problems are disqualifying.
perhaps the people arent all being tricked into their ongoing support
So you believe that the majority of voters are well-educated and are never misinformed or believe lies told to them by politicians? I'm glad you have that much faith, but I don't have it. A lot of people are busy and can't pay that much attention, and noise and echo chambers make it worse.
Of course, I never said all younger people are always better than all older people. I was addressing a specific potential issue.
This is treading into agism, tbh
This argument is treading into strawmanning to dismiss my point of view, so I've made my points and I'll leave it there.
So what you're saying is that if someone has a mental disability, we should prevent them from running for office, correct?
Please point anywhere I said anyone should be prevented from running for office.
C'mon, now, what else do you mean by all this? You don't think people above a certain age should be able to run for office. Just because you don't like having that stated plainly doesn't make it not true.
You inferring something doesn't mean I actually implied it.
I mean, if your point is, "Feinstein shouldn't have run for a third term," I agree. But if you mean, "She shouldn't have and we should do something about it" I disagree because I think any conceivable cure would be worse than the disease.
I think the fact that they were able to hide her mental decline in the later years of her term is a problem that I don't think is solved. Reagan was the same way. My prescription wouldn't be to stop anyone from running. I don't know how to solve it. All I did was identify a problem I perceive.
Okay, but my solution ("she died and was replaced") while admittedly suboptimal does have the benefit of not having to judge someone's mental acuity post-election, which I would hope you agree has a lot of problems with it.
That's the entire implication you're providing here by trying to argue about why it's bad old people can be in office lol.
All I did was identify a problem I don't think is solved. I don't know how to solve it. My mental state or any solutions are just projections people are putting on me.
Illness and injury can impact *anyone*, not just the aged. Fetterman being a prime example. Your issue isn't really with age-it's you wanting to dump any elected official that might have actual human struggles in favor of some imaginary electoral ubermench.
This is a very rare problem with a handful of high profile cases, and I don't think there's any reason to conclude that it's endangering the system.
I wouldn't go so far to say it's "endangering the system" overall. Just that it's a problem that pops up that there's not a great solution for because of barriers that can mask it.
And the solution you choose is? Barring people from voting for someone you arbitrarily say is too old?
Wow, that's a wild interpretation. I never said they shouldn't be elected All I said was that the fact that there are disadvantages to older representatives that can be hidden and disguised is a problem that isn't solved. Not all problems are disqualifying.
"Hidden and disguised" So voters are too dumb to notice things. Got it.
Sure, let's go with that, since it's obviously what you're going to interpret no matter what I say.