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tisane al-gaib @dallaninvictus.bsky.social

if they are out of touch with current society why is that society re-electing them?

aug 29, 2025, 4:32 pm • 6 0

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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

Because our system has developed effective means of shielding that from the electorate. Aides issuing comments instead, going on friendly media outlets, etc.

aug 29, 2025, 4:37 pm • 1 0 • view
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waxmonkey @waxmonkey.bsky.social

younger representatives also have aides and also prefer friendly media outlets

aug 29, 2025, 4:39 pm • 5 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

Younger representatives are much less likely to have mental capacity issues that are masked by those.

aug 29, 2025, 4:44 pm • 2 0 • view
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waxmonkey @waxmonkey.bsky.social

what they are much less likely to have is experience

aug 29, 2025, 4:45 pm • 1 0 • view
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waxmonkey @waxmonkey.bsky.social

it is very strange to assume that older people all suffer from mental incapacitation

aug 29, 2025, 4:46 pm • 1 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

How in the world did you interpret "less likely" as "all"?

aug 29, 2025, 4:48 pm • 1 0 • view
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waxmonkey @waxmonkey.bsky.social

let me put this another way i am older than a 20 year old. does that mean i am more likely to suffer from mental incapacitation and should therefore not have my job have i lost touch with society because i cant tell you what the point of a skibidi toilet is

aug 29, 2025, 4:50 pm • 1 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

Who said they should never have a job, or even shouldn't be elected? All I said was that the fact that there are disadvantages to older representatives that can be hidden and disguised is a problem that isn't solved. Not all problems are disqualifying.

aug 29, 2025, 5:05 pm • 1 0 • view
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waxmonkey @waxmonkey.bsky.social

perhaps the people arent all being tricked into their ongoing support

aug 29, 2025, 5:06 pm • 1 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

So you believe that the majority of voters are well-educated and are never misinformed or believe lies told to them by politicians? I'm glad you have that much faith, but I don't have it. A lot of people are busy and can't pay that much attention, and noise and echo chambers make it worse.

aug 29, 2025, 5:09 pm • 1 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

Of course, I never said all younger people are always better than all older people. I was addressing a specific potential issue.

aug 29, 2025, 4:49 pm • 1 0 • view
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Aaron van Dorn @aaronvandorn.bsky.social

This is treading into agism, tbh

aug 29, 2025, 4:46 pm • 3 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

This argument is treading into strawmanning to dismiss my point of view, so I've made my points and I'll leave it there.

aug 29, 2025, 4:48 pm • 1 0 • view
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Not very hopeful ball of otter @kiymon.bsky.social

So what you're saying is that if someone has a mental disability, we should prevent them from running for office, correct?

aug 29, 2025, 5:05 pm • 0 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

Please point anywhere I said anyone should be prevented from running for office.

aug 29, 2025, 5:07 pm • 1 0 • view
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Aaron van Dorn @aaronvandorn.bsky.social

C'mon, now, what else do you mean by all this? You don't think people above a certain age should be able to run for office. Just because you don't like having that stated plainly doesn't make it not true.

aug 29, 2025, 5:11 pm • 1 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

You inferring something doesn't mean I actually implied it.

aug 29, 2025, 5:13 pm • 1 0 • view
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Aaron van Dorn @aaronvandorn.bsky.social

I mean, if your point is, "Feinstein shouldn't have run for a third term," I agree. But if you mean, "She shouldn't have and we should do something about it" I disagree because I think any conceivable cure would be worse than the disease.

aug 29, 2025, 5:15 pm • 1 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

I think the fact that they were able to hide her mental decline in the later years of her term is a problem that I don't think is solved. Reagan was the same way. My prescription wouldn't be to stop anyone from running. I don't know how to solve it. All I did was identify a problem I perceive.

aug 29, 2025, 5:18 pm • 1 0 • view
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Aaron van Dorn @aaronvandorn.bsky.social

Okay, but my solution ("she died and was replaced") while admittedly suboptimal does have the benefit of not having to judge someone's mental acuity post-election, which I would hope you agree has a lot of problems with it.

aug 29, 2025, 5:20 pm • 1 0 • view
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Not very hopeful ball of otter @kiymon.bsky.social

That's the entire implication you're providing here by trying to argue about why it's bad old people can be in office lol.

aug 29, 2025, 5:17 pm • 0 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

All I did was identify a problem I don't think is solved. I don't know how to solve it. My mental state or any solutions are just projections people are putting on me.

aug 29, 2025, 5:19 pm • 1 0 • view
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Devlin Burgess @devlinburgess.bsky.social

Illness and injury can impact *anyone*, not just the aged. Fetterman being a prime example. Your issue isn't really with age-it's you wanting to dump any elected official that might have actual human struggles in favor of some imaginary electoral ubermench.

aug 30, 2025, 6:09 am • 0 0 • view
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Aaron van Dorn @aaronvandorn.bsky.social

This is a very rare problem with a handful of high profile cases, and I don't think there's any reason to conclude that it's endangering the system.

aug 29, 2025, 4:38 pm • 2 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

I wouldn't go so far to say it's "endangering the system" overall. Just that it's a problem that pops up that there's not a great solution for because of barriers that can mask it.

aug 29, 2025, 4:44 pm • 1 0 • view
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Not very hopeful ball of otter @kiymon.bsky.social

And the solution you choose is? Barring people from voting for someone you arbitrarily say is too old?

aug 29, 2025, 5:05 pm • 0 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

Wow, that's a wild interpretation. I never said they shouldn't be elected All I said was that the fact that there are disadvantages to older representatives that can be hidden and disguised is a problem that isn't solved. Not all problems are disqualifying.

aug 29, 2025, 5:06 pm • 1 0 • view
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Not very hopeful ball of otter @kiymon.bsky.social

"Hidden and disguised" So voters are too dumb to notice things. Got it.

aug 29, 2025, 5:16 pm • 0 0 • view
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Tom D @thinkert.bsky.social

Sure, let's go with that, since it's obviously what you're going to interpret no matter what I say.

aug 29, 2025, 5:20 pm • 1 0 • view