Everyone is going to put 1984 on the syllabus, but what young people really need right now are novels from the reactionary 1830s and 40s that show how to get ahead through ideological sail-trimming and flattery. Stendhal, Balzac, Thackeray.
Everyone is going to put 1984 on the syllabus, but what young people really need right now are novels from the reactionary 1830s and 40s that show how to get ahead through ideological sail-trimming and flattery. Stendhal, Balzac, Thackeray.
What was going at that time that there are so many French writers being mentioned.
Napoleon
Stendhal was a flatterer? In what way? Do you mean by this that he supported Napoleon?
Napoleon at least represented a revolutionary change, even if he hijacked it for his imperial megalomania. What does Trump represent other than nihilistic grift?
Or perhaps you meant to say that these authors depicted and criticized how flattery functioned. That makes more sense.
I was going to say. I haven't read much Stendhal but his scheming protagonist in The Red and The Black ends up guillotined after being exposed for what he is
The plot details are a bit hazy for me, it’s been decades since I read it, but yeah, sounds about right. 👍🏻
Steinbeck’s Grapes of Wrath presents an absolutely horrible time in US history. We got through it but it took a world war and ramped up factory production of war weapons to do it. I fear that may be the way we’re headed. I hope not.
And hopefully my memoir soon, once I get it to publishing
Thanks for the reading list
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"Flattery" seems a poor substitute for principled action and "getting ahead" a poor substitute for mutual respect. 1984 and Brave New World do also present problems not paths.
For a more recent flavor of the same topic, novels from the Soviet times are also a great choice: Bulgakov's "Master and Margarita" or some of Ilf and Petrov's.
Add the Jungle
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Dune needs to be required reading... Messiah's are Bad.
I first read 1984 circa 1964 Tried to reread 1984 circa 2024 DNF so fast – tendentious & booooorrrriiinng Animal Farm? ✔ still readable
I would put Fahrenheit 451 on this list. Not because "censorship bad," but because I don't know that anyone has written about what happens when media becomes useless and banal in the way Bradbury did. He wrote about AI slop without even knowing it.
Bradbury was an absolute master. Something Wicked This Way Comes is an all time favorite. It too feels poignant.
What about... Emmanuel Joseph Sieyès And Jean-Paul Marat?
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Chernyshevsky
Need more young men with big Rakhmetov energy
Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Tressel. Any History of the French Revolution.
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War is a Racket by Gen. Smedley D. Butler. 1935.
Civil Disobedience by Henry David Thoreau. 1849.
Any recommendations mate?
Lord of the Flies and Entropy
In Texas, it might then be removed from the syllabus.
Henry Esmond ftw
Always respect the Balzac.. .....sorry. 😅
V.I. Lenin, Imperialism.
Rereading as we speak. Makes me feel very ill, however.
Stamped From the Beginning to learn US history not taught in public schools but very much a primer on how we got here. On Tyranny so you have a plan for taking action. 1st mention is by Ibram X. Kendi 2nd is by Tom Snyder
Timothy Snyder
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This is a great nudge. I appreciate that you didn’t give specific recommendations. I would like to see the world learn how to read a few synopses and see what catches their eye as relevant.
I was looking for these subjects. Which books?
Any particular work of these writers you'd recommend for 9th grade?
Ooof. They're probably all a little too cynical for 9th grade. Ease in gently with "The Lottery."
I'd heavily recommend "The Coming of the Third Reich" by Richard J. Evans
Y'all don't get it yet. This next generation of fascists was trained on quotes from Orwell. Orwell's arguments aren't going to work this time. It's been two generations since 1984, the year.
They should be reading about the 3rd Reich
Better to read Voltair and Thomas Payne. Maybe bring back the age of reason
Proudhon
People need to put The Jungle on the syllabus - the full novel, not just the food contamination parts. Immigration, worker abuse, limited options for young men, gender discrimination, socialism, AND an author who ran for public office on issues that still resonate
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Any specific book recommendations from those authors you mentioned?
Stendhal, _The Red and the Black_ Balzac, _Lost Illusions_ Thackeray, _Vanity Fair_ all deliciously cynical
How about Charterhouse of Parma? I never finished reading it, maybe I should when I get a chance.
Agree with Animal Farm as it does provide an easy read for younger people and is thematically deep for adults, but I fear we are heading into Slaughterhouse-Five territory. that's my next.
Insightful and a good suggestion. Reposted accordingly. Thanks.
Oh, we need things like this on the syllbi: ia801309.us.archive.org/14/items/Sim... And: dgrnewsservice.org/resistance-c... And: libcom.org/article/why-...
Another great idea for school readings: craphound.com/littlebrothe... And it's sequel.
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In the Garden of Beasts by Erik Larson explains Berlin 1933. A must read for 2025.
We had to watch The Wave in 1981. It was an afterschool special. This, ironically, was in Texas.
Animal Farm is more instructive in regards to the coup/revolution taking place in the US currently
Yes, both are important. And the “Brave New World” of Aldous Huxley.
Animal Farm is the only one where the pigs take over. Metaphorically and literally the state of the US just now
No, I agree. The Brave New World also highlights the apathy induced by the drug soma, making everyone complacent, which is the infotainment and social media of today. It’s a combo of that plus pigs, dogs, and sheep.
I bet Pink Floyd members are having a stark sense of Deja vu. Pig man, fat man, haha, charade you are.
I always get this mixed up with Funny Farm when I see the reference.
Read On Tyranny by Timothy Snyder.
Also “The Road to Unfreedom” and “On Freedom”. Both highly relevant.
Only a matter of time, the way things are going, before 1984, Fahrenheit 451, The Handmaiden's Tale et al become banned books. The messed up way things are currently I am waiting for some republic somewhere to use the 1st act of Logan's Run as both manifesto and blueprint for society