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Ted Underwood @tedunderwood.me

Everyone is going to put 1984 on the syllabus, but what young people really need right now are novels from the reactionary 1830s and 40s that show how to get ahead through ideological sail-trimming and flattery. Stendhal, Balzac, Thackeray.

feb 26, 2025, 3:33 pm • 1,071 128

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dna-adn.bsky.social @dna-adn.bsky.social

What was going at that time that there are so many French writers being mentioned.

feb 26, 2025, 5:15 pm • 2 0 • view
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Kimmi🌟🐻⛵️🐬 @kimmi00.bsky.social

Napoleon

feb 26, 2025, 5:34 pm • 3 0 • view
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Bohdan Pechenyak @bohdan81.bsky.social

Stendhal was a flatterer? In what way? Do you mean by this that he supported Napoleon?

feb 26, 2025, 6:36 pm • 0 0 • view
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Bohdan Pechenyak @bohdan81.bsky.social

Napoleon at least represented a revolutionary change, even if he hijacked it for his imperial megalomania. What does Trump represent other than nihilistic grift?

feb 26, 2025, 6:38 pm • 0 0 • view
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Bohdan Pechenyak @bohdan81.bsky.social

Or perhaps you meant to say that these authors depicted and criticized how flattery functioned. That makes more sense.

feb 26, 2025, 6:41 pm • 1 0 • view
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btswanfury.bsky.social @btswanfury.bsky.social

I was going to say. I haven't read much Stendhal but his scheming protagonist in The Red and The Black ends up guillotined after being exposed for what he is

feb 26, 2025, 7:41 pm • 2 0 • view
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Bohdan Pechenyak @bohdan81.bsky.social

The plot details are a bit hazy for me, it’s been decades since I read it, but yeah, sounds about right. 👍🏻

feb 26, 2025, 8:09 pm • 0 0 • view
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rapslav.bsky.social @rapslav.bsky.social

Steinbeck’s Grapes of Wrath presents an absolutely horrible time in US history. We got through it but it took a world war and ramped up factory production of war weapons to do it. I fear that may be the way we’re headed. I hope not.

feb 27, 2025, 8:01 am • 3 0 • view
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100fordem.bsky.social @100fordem.bsky.social

And hopefully my memoir soon, once I get it to publishing

feb 26, 2025, 3:44 pm • 0 0 • view
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Sandra Wohali @mylittletower.bsky.social

Thanks for the reading list

feb 26, 2025, 4:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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Stork @eightxeroxedbutts.bsky.social

I'm listening....

feb 26, 2025, 8:00 pm • 0 0 • view
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majortomncc1701a.bsky.social @majortomncc1701a.bsky.social

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feb 26, 2025, 5:25 pm • 11 3 • view
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Mike Sweeney - Artist @mikesweeney-artist.bsky.social

"Flattery" seems a poor substitute for principled action and "getting ahead" a poor substitute for mutual respect. 1984 and Brave New World do also present problems not paths.

feb 26, 2025, 3:47 pm • 2 0 • view
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Adrian Constantin @adriancjr.bsky.social

For a more recent flavor of the same topic, novels from the Soviet times are also a great choice: Bulgakov's "Master and Margarita" or some of Ilf and Petrov's.

feb 28, 2025, 1:53 pm • 2 0 • view
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Ma-at 🫀⚖️🪶 @ma-at.bsky.social

Add the Jungle

feb 26, 2025, 7:32 pm • 0 0 • view
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Kartika Damon For Book Lovers @kartd.bsky.social

TU

feb 27, 2025, 12:53 pm • 0 0 • view
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crimson-rove.bsky.social @crimson-rove.bsky.social

Dune needs to be required reading... Messiah's are Bad.

feb 26, 2025, 7:13 pm • 0 0 • view
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Joseph Jones @jonesj.bsky.social

I first read 1984 circa 1964 Tried to reread 1984 circa 2024 DNF so fast – tendentious & booooorrrriiinng Animal Farm? ✔ still readable

feb 27, 2025, 4:22 am • 0 0 • view
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VictorK @victork1862.bsky.social

I would put Fahrenheit 451 on this list. Not because "censorship bad," but because I don't know that anyone has written about what happens when media becomes useless and banal in the way Bradbury did. He wrote about AI slop without even knowing it.

feb 26, 2025, 6:13 pm • 13 0 • view
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Craig McIntosh @craigmcintosh.bsky.social

Bradbury was an absolute master. Something Wicked This Way Comes is an all time favorite. It too feels poignant.

feb 26, 2025, 8:22 pm • 2 0 • view
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Katherine Fulton 🫡 🏳️‍⚧️ 🏴‍☠️ @thekatfulton.neocities.org

What about... Emmanuel Joseph Sieyès And Jean-Paul Marat?

feb 26, 2025, 4:36 pm • 0 0 • view
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Tea4Me @tea-n-me.bsky.social

📌

feb 26, 2025, 8:53 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jesse (The Mr.) Friend @themrfriend.bsky.social

Chernyshevsky

feb 26, 2025, 4:24 pm • 1 0 • view
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molotovrouge.bsky.social @molotovrouge.bsky.social

Need more young men with big Rakhmetov energy

feb 26, 2025, 5:21 pm • 1 0 • view
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Roy @charlamagne.bsky.social

Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Tressel. Any History of the French Revolution.

feb 26, 2025, 4:19 pm • 1 0 • view
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Kimmi🌟🐻⛵️🐬 @kimmi00.bsky.social

Also check out @workingclasshistory.bsky.social

feb 27, 2025, 7:47 pm • 1 0 • view
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Kimmi🌟🐻⛵️🐬 @kimmi00.bsky.social

Here's a little gem. A piece of IWW's Utah Philips giving a talk on the early days of the labor movement and it's music. youtu.be/ymY6y6o6PAo?...

feb 27, 2025, 2:59 am • 0 0 • view
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Kimmi🌟🐻⛵️🐬 @kimmi00.bsky.social

Here is a different recording where he was talking about old time soapboxing first before the song. youtu.be/gTOC4zej_S4?...

feb 27, 2025, 3:10 am • 0 0 • view
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Kimmi🌟🐻⛵️🐬 @kimmi00.bsky.social

Different event songs and stories. youtu.be/dd4yNMo5r14?...

feb 27, 2025, 3:24 am • 0 0 • view
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Kimmi🌟🐻⛵️🐬 @kimmi00.bsky.social

War is a Racket by Gen. Smedley D. Butler. 1935.

feb 26, 2025, 5:21 pm • 0 0 • view
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Kimmi🌟🐻⛵️🐬 @kimmi00.bsky.social

Civil Disobedience by Henry David Thoreau. 1849.

feb 26, 2025, 5:12 pm • 5 0 • view
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Velociraptor @dariowilson9.bsky.social

Any recommendations mate?

feb 26, 2025, 4:02 pm • 6 0 • view
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coleslaw12.bsky.social @coleslaw12.bsky.social

Lord of the Flies and Entropy

feb 26, 2025, 5:10 pm • 0 0 • view
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leanne7908.bsky.social @leanne7908.bsky.social

In Texas, it might then be removed from the syllabus.

feb 26, 2025, 6:46 pm • 2 0 • view
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Anne @iamanneharris.bsky.social

Henry Esmond ftw

feb 27, 2025, 3:01 am • 0 0 • view
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Armand @armand-79th.bsky.social

Always respect the Balzac.. .....sorry. 😅

feb 26, 2025, 10:40 pm • 0 0 • view
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Endtimes @endtimesenjoyer.bsky.social

V.I. Lenin, Imperialism.

feb 27, 2025, 1:12 am • 0 0 • view
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Anderson, D. Ed @andersonded.bsky.social

Rereading as we speak. Makes me feel very ill, however.

feb 26, 2025, 5:53 pm • 2 0 • view
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Victoria @vmarie7.bsky.social

Stamped From the Beginning to learn US history not taught in public schools but very much a primer on how we got here. On Tyranny so you have a plan for taking action. 1st mention is by Ibram X. Kendi 2nd is by Tom Snyder

feb 26, 2025, 5:33 pm • 25 3 • view
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Paul Elledge 🇺🇦 @pelledge.bsky.social

Timothy Snyder

mar 4, 2025, 12:29 am • 1 0 • view
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Victoria @vmarie7.bsky.social

🤦🏻‍♀️ Thank you

mar 4, 2025, 12:34 am • 1 0 • view
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Victoria @vmarie7.bsky.social

*Timothy Snyder* Apologies!

mar 4, 2025, 12:36 am • 0 0 • view
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Ian Ramsrud @ianramsrud.bsky.social

This is a great nudge. I appreciate that you didn’t give specific recommendations. I would like to see the world learn how to read a few synopses and see what catches their eye as relevant.

feb 26, 2025, 4:44 pm • 0 0 • view
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Twinkle-Toes ✨🤘🏻 @tenacious-tt.bsky.social

I was looking for these subjects. Which books?

feb 26, 2025, 4:15 pm • 1 0 • view
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artzcat.bsky.social @artzcat.bsky.social

Any particular work of these writers you'd recommend for 9th grade?

feb 26, 2025, 5:51 pm • 0 0 • view
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Ted Underwood @tedunderwood.me

Ooof. They're probably all a little too cynical for 9th grade. Ease in gently with "The Lottery."

feb 26, 2025, 6:30 pm • 1 0 • view
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Lefty Noname @angrydemocrattwo.bsky.social

I'd heavily recommend "The Coming of the Third Reich" by Richard J. Evans

feb 26, 2025, 4:25 pm • 5 1 • view
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Wah @robotpirateninja.com

Y'all don't get it yet. This next generation of fascists was trained on quotes from Orwell. Orwell's arguments aren't going to work this time. It's been two generations since 1984, the year.

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feb 26, 2025, 4:15 pm • 5 1 • view
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schmidt-ct @jschm2681.bsky.social

They should be reading about the 3rd Reich

feb 27, 2025, 1:56 am • 0 0 • view
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riseup56.bsky.social @riseup56.bsky.social

Better to read Voltair and Thomas Payne. Maybe bring back the age of reason

feb 27, 2025, 10:11 am • 0 0 • view
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Michael C Merritt @mikecmerritt.bsky.social

Proudhon

feb 26, 2025, 4:49 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jim Kosmicki @jkosmicki.bsky.social

People need to put The Jungle on the syllabus - the full novel, not just the food contamination parts. Immigration, worker abuse, limited options for young men, gender discrimination, socialism, AND an author who ran for public office on issues that still resonate

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mark chaffee @mvchaffee.bsky.social

bsky.app/profile/mvch...

feb 26, 2025, 4:26 pm • 1 0 • view
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Greg Cuellar @itsgregcuellar.bsky.social

Any specific book recommendations from those authors you mentioned?

feb 26, 2025, 4:01 pm • 6 0 • view
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Ted Underwood @tedunderwood.me

Stendhal, _The Red and the Black_ Balzac, _Lost Illusions_ Thackeray, _Vanity Fair_ all deliciously cynical

feb 26, 2025, 6:27 pm • 7 0 • view
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Bohdan Pechenyak @bohdan81.bsky.social

How about Charterhouse of Parma? I never finished reading it, maybe I should when I get a chance.

feb 26, 2025, 6:42 pm • 2 0 • view
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floridajohn.bsky.social @floridajohn.bsky.social

Agree with Animal Farm as it does provide an easy read for younger people and is thematically deep for adults, but I fear we are heading into Slaughterhouse-Five territory. that's my next.

feb 27, 2025, 3:04 am • 0 0 • view
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Helen, Tina's Boob Punch @tinavstammy.bsky.social

Insightful and a good suggestion. Reposted accordingly. Thanks.

feb 26, 2025, 3:37 pm • 5 0 • view
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blackcat716.bsky.social @blackcat716.bsky.social

Oh, we need things like this on the syllbi: ia801309.us.archive.org/14/items/Sim... And: dgrnewsservice.org/resistance-c... And: libcom.org/article/why-...

feb 26, 2025, 4:47 pm • 3 0 • view
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blackcat716.bsky.social @blackcat716.bsky.social

Another great idea for school readings: craphound.com/littlebrothe... And it's sequel.

feb 26, 2025, 4:49 pm • 1 0 • view
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Conspiranon @conspiranon.bsky.social

In the evangelical school I came to be familiar with the evangelical view of education — or, to be more precise, their contempt for education. bsky.app/profile/cons...

feb 26, 2025, 7:55 pm • 1 0 • view
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Ted Underwood @tedunderwood.me

Now fleshed out with practical Stendhalian advice: bsky.app/profile/ecou...

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dcdc2025.bsky.social @dcdc2025.bsky.social

In the Garden of Beasts by Erik Larson explains Berlin 1933. A must read for 2025.

feb 26, 2025, 6:24 pm • 14 2 • view
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HappyYellowSunsine @lemonmeringuepi.bsky.social

We had to watch The Wave in 1981. It was an afterschool special. This, ironically, was in Texas.

feb 26, 2025, 10:34 pm • 0 0 • view
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Emincee @emincee.bsky.social

Animal Farm is more instructive in regards to the coup/revolution taking place in the US currently

feb 26, 2025, 5:00 pm • 14 1 • view
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Bohdan Pechenyak @bohdan81.bsky.social

Yes, both are important. And the “Brave New World” of Aldous Huxley.

feb 26, 2025, 6:39 pm • 1 0 • view
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Emincee @emincee.bsky.social

Animal Farm is the only one where the pigs take over. Metaphorically and literally the state of the US just now

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Bohdan Pechenyak @bohdan81.bsky.social

No, I agree. The Brave New World also highlights the apathy induced by the drug soma, making everyone complacent, which is the infotainment and social media of today. It’s a combo of that plus pigs, dogs, and sheep.

feb 26, 2025, 7:03 pm • 1 0 • view
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Bohdan Pechenyak @bohdan81.bsky.social

I bet Pink Floyd members are having a stark sense of Deja vu. Pig man, fat man, haha, charade you are.

feb 26, 2025, 7:05 pm • 2 0 • view
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HappyYellowSunsine @lemonmeringuepi.bsky.social

I always get this mixed up with Funny Farm when I see the reference.

feb 26, 2025, 10:38 pm • 0 0 • view
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JWC @jwcld.bsky.social

Read On Tyranny by Timothy Snyder.

feb 26, 2025, 4:56 pm • 5 0 • view
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Bohdan Pechenyak @bohdan81.bsky.social

Also “The Road to Unfreedom” and “On Freedom”. Both highly relevant.

feb 26, 2025, 6:44 pm • 2 0 • view
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Witchspace @witchspace.bsky.social

Only a matter of time, the way things are going, before 1984, Fahrenheit 451, The Handmaiden's Tale et al become banned books. The messed up way things are currently I am waiting for some republic somewhere to use the 1st act of Logan's Run as both manifesto and blueprint for society

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