Im also so tired of hearing about how one side is supposedly more pro or anti-queer than the other. Israel is still an abrahamic religious state that doesn't recognize trans rights. Gay people can't even get married, it's separate but "equal" bullshit just like the US used to be.
Also, Trans activists are being thrown in male prisons and sometimes solitary. www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlJ...
Fake. Trans troops serve in the IDF every day of the week and have for more than 30 years.
She didn’t say “trans troops” She said “trans activists” Military service is mandatory for Israeli citizens (yes I know the orthodox have an exception they’re trying to keep). This is not actually a point in your favor. You’ll need to demonstrate falsehood.
And the fact is a trans woman can be a commando in the Israeli Army but can't drive a truck in the American Army.
This still isn’t a point in your favor, and the fact that you think it is speaks to just how rancid liberalism has made your brain.
Being able to pick up a gun and shoot brown kids isn't a privilege. People are literally forced into military service in Israel
Like or course they'll take every bit of cannon fodder they can get when they're committing a genocide and need people to shoot kids
The Orthodox have always served. You are confusing Orthodox for Chasidic Jews, who haven't been exempt for 2 years now. In Israel everyone, man, woman, or other serves. In the US they can make you serve, too.
Glad you decided to nitpick instead of making an argument about how everything in that video is fake.
They actually can't draft everyone in the US like Israel does, and I disagree with forced military service.
Fake? I don't think you can read. Trans women who refuse IDF service are locked up in male prisons.
LGBTQ troops have served openly in the IDF since 1990 (20 years before the US) and had the right to marry before it was legalized in the US.
I don't think you've read what I posted
Gay marriage was legalized in Israel before it was legalized in the United States. Most Israelis are atheists. Trans have all the same rights as everyone else in Israel, and more than they have in the US.
Most Israelis (>70%) identify as Jewish, not atheist. Your source probably conflated Hiloni (secular or non-observant Judaism, ~33%) with atheism. That is not accurate. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religio... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiloni
Most Cherokees are Protastant Christians. Does that make them not Cherokee, anymore? Loke the Cherokee, Jews are a tribe. Most Jews are agnostic or atheist. Less than 1% of Jews consider the Bible authored by God. There are more American Democrats that believe the Bible is the literal word of God
Who told you this?
Jewish people who are atheist and identify as Jewish is a well known principle going back hundreds of years. Ever since the idea of being an atheist, distinct from the culture started Jewish people know our identities and history
Jews have always been treated as outsiders. The antisemitism being so bad, that in some countries they weren’t even considered of that nationality, but Jewish The people who identify as Jewish atheist are a significant fraction of the Jewish population
Yes, but this is not what @road2lexington.bsky.social was saying.
If you are referring to most Israelis are atheists I don’t know the answer It’s a complex, people who attend synagogue regularly can be atheists, agnostic etc. If it wasn’t for outside people specifically wanting to know I don’t think the question would mean much.
Then there are people who don’t go to synagogue but do believe in the God of the Torah or just believe in God but not Judaism Or any other mixture .
For various reasons to many to mention but just one. When people hate you they don’t care if you are religious, atheist or try to hide your Jewish ancestry, they will hate you Two, being Jewish is an identity , Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people; non which requires faith
Lastly, being a minority Now in Israel, Jewish people may identify more as Israeli being that the majority of Israeli people are Jewish Much like people in the US might just say American If you ask Israelis who they are most Jewish people who are atheist will say Jewish
Unless they specifically don’t want to be called Jewish and reject the label
Gay marriage is not legal in Israel
And you don't have the same rights if you're a trans woman forced into a male prison!
Israeli prisons are loke Swedish prisons and the sentences are short. In America if you rob a store you go to jail for a decade. In Istael its 4 months. Its all about reform, not punishment. The soldier in question was arrested for failing to report, not because they are trans.
Yes, it is. It is a civil marriage. Israel doesn't force religious people to perform marriages, just like the rest of the Western world.
Bro is out here just pink washing an illiberal far right authoritarian state.
Israel recognizing civil marriages that occur outside of Israel ≠ legal gay marriage
Like, idk, I think if I have to ELOPE FROM THE COUNTRY I LIVE IN to get married to someone I love, I don’t think that country has allowed me to legally marry.