Without probable cause or reasonable suspicion, ICE and Border Patrol cannot just go into parks, Home Depots, and other public spaces just to round up Brown people. That is flat out illegal.
Without probable cause or reasonable suspicion, ICE and Border Patrol cannot just go into parks, Home Depots, and other public spaces just to round up Brown people. That is flat out illegal.
True, but that doesn't seem to be deterring them. What's next? Or are we simply going to complain about the "illegality" until someone they're pushing around gets sufficiently tired of it all to shoot back?
So just more pointless social media posts then? No action, no solutions, no risk taking? Just...this.
MAGA doesn’t care about illegality
So fucking do something about it. Shitposting ain’t governing my dude
Well, since they have probable cause and they’re not “just rounding up brown people,” I guess we’re good. Every raid has been for a target, and the fact that they result in catching a dozen other illegals, too, shows how outrageous sanctuary cities are.
So what does that tell us then??? It tells us, the folks doing that aren’t ICE. They are masked bounty hunters with no legitimate standing to be taking anyone.
Absolutely illegal, and yet they’re doing it
Congressman, if this is true, why is the California Police Department allowing it and also active participants at times?
Exactly. Have the governor issue orders to arrest these illegal kidnappers. Checkmate
In 3...2...1. A strongly worded letter?
It’s not illegal unless someone does something to stop it, congressman…murder is legal until someone is arrested.
So arrest one of them. Just one.
And they damn sure can’t show up at courthouses where immigrants are attending immigration hearings. Republicans say they want immigrants to come to this country the right way, then tolerate ICE throwing them into detention when they show up to their hearings.
But they’ll import actual violent gang members from other countries and offer them due process.
Great news but they’re doing it anyway and nobody is stopping them.
What an extraordinary country you are. And not in a good way. How are you going to stop this? Any thoughts?
Right now, the Democrats plan is to tweet on blue sky all the things that are obvious and that we know and ask rhetorical questions
"This time, we've REALLY got him." And yet they never have. You know, the only thing that's ever actually beaten him was an election. But winning elections takes a bit more leadership and policy than performative posting on Social Media...
And yet, here we are...
We know. What are y’all doing about it?
They truly operate like a Domestic Terrorist Organization making America White Again!
Can they be stopped?
But they do whatever they want and your words mean nothing under the present circumstances
I think we must need to start rounding up white people with the premise of them being Nazis. That OK with them in a future term
They do anyway. So what’s being done about it?
Quick someone tell congress!
we know its illegal, theyre doing it anyway and whos going to hold them accountable?
Woooh Teddy , key word to take note here ...brown people ..
AND?????????
Indeed it is.what rights does ice have to do this? Is it because of the money that they are paid? They couldn’t possibly be afraid of Trump. 🤷
Doesn't matter if it's legal if no one is stopping them.
Sadly, the constitution states very clearly that the president is in charge of enforcing the law. So obviously there's nothing you can do about it. It's a shame, really. If only the founders had realized that a corrupt president might refuse to prosecute himself or his allies.
This bullshit recess!!!! Isn't there something you and your cohorts can do about this????? Cmon. Show some spine & creativity!!!! It's only a massive coverup sliding by!!
"Did you know that you have rights? The Constitution says you do. And so do I. I believe that until proven guilty, every man, woman, and child in this country is innocent." -Saul Goodman
Shame you’re not doing anything about it
They are and they were just given the biggest budget of all fed agencies 😡
OMG I did not know this . Did you all know this ?
THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOU ARE LITERALLY THE PERSON WHO WAS ELECTED TO DO SOMETHING
And yet they do.
I would imagine if a person is brown, that ICE and Border Patrol would consider that reasonable suspicion. Change my mind.
I wish your words were comforting Rep. Lieu. It just seems like crimes aren’t crimes if this president permits it. It started with him inciting an insurrection and despite the US Constitution, he’s president. I don’t know where this stops, but it sure seems like laws don’t matter to/for them.
Germany knows where this stops.
If they are above the law, so am I. #bet
Wait, what's the color of your skin. Do you have the complexion of protection?
Yet it's still happening
Well, they *shouldn't*. It's illegal and despicable. But unfortunately they *can* and have.
We know. And Congress is impotent to stop it. Nobody is stopping it except citizens, neighbors, decent people. There are no laws anymore. It is time to face up to the fact.
They don't care, they don't care, they don't care. Don't you get it?
Brand new account and already trolling? Did your last one get banned?
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We are in a lawless dictatorship. Emperor Trump has the keys to the kingdom, Tech Bros have all our data & masked vigilantes are kidnapping people. All while Dem leaders lull themselves to sleep by repeating the fantasy that "we'll win the next election." HOW will we ever see a fair election again?
Yet that's what is happening. So now what?
But they are getting away with it every God damn day
CAPITAL POLICE DID NOT SHOOT TRAITORS 1/6– violence by these FASCISTS WITH A BADGE—— doesn’t make SENSE🤦🏼♂️🤷🏽♂️
What's your point Ted? These f****** have been doing illegal things since the beginning. Nobody's stopping them.
Ok but the pervasive immunities federal officials have mean that the individuals breaking the law face no meaningful threat of civil lawsuits. This needs to end.
So are you going to impeach Trump and abolish ICE, or are you full of shit?
So are you going to impeach Trump and abolish ICE, or are you full of shit?
They don't care about the law Ted. We need to find a new way of fighting them. The legal route doesn't work anymore.
Who’s gonna stop them ? … NOBODY 🤷♀️
Make it so we can settle this for you.
They have been doing that from conception. And up until the end of June, they started trying other ways not to be picked up themselves.
By voting for the crypto-friendly GENIUS Act you enabled the legal continuation of this corruption: bsky.app/profile/cnbc...
But they’re doing it! Just like Trump’s doing illegal shit and this whole administration and they’re all getting away with it!
Apparently the judiciary hasn't stopped them and Congress hasn't stopped them we are in a 1938 pre-hitler type stage and heading toward that road. Feeding detainees like dogs at alligator auschwitz with their hands cuffed and on their knees. This is 100% Hitleresque
Except they're doing it. But thanks for the strongly worded Bleep. 🤦♀️
Then why does it keep happening?
Sadly they don’t care
They don’t care😡
We're just about at the point where law no longer matters.
and yet, Ted, they are. what's the FUCKING plan? stop pointing out the crimes, start implementing a strategy to stop them, hold them accountable. work within your state w/AGs, judges, legislators, law enforcement. you guys need to think outside of the institution now.
They do not care
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No it's not. Stop lying. Why aren't you up that idiot Newsoms back side asking him why the houses aren't getting rebuilt. What a leftist nightmare you have turned LA and CALI In too.
Are you going to ask the pigs to investigate themselves? Or perhaps you should do something useful.
Amen. All fucking day amen.
they are doing it
If a law isn’t enforced is it really a law at all?
They don't care about the law. And we need to stop pretending they do.
Okay?? They absolutely, confidently, and viciously ARE doing so. SO STOP THEM. OR STATE CLEARLY SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR: WE DO NOT HAVE A MECHANISM WITHIN THE LEGAL OR LEGISLATIVE SYSTEM TO STOP FASCISM WHEN FASCISTS ARE IN CHARGE OF THE LEGAL SYSTEM AND LEGISLATURE.
Lieu voted to block impeachment like 3 weeks ago. he fully supports the fascist
They are dehumanizing immigrants, both legal and illegal. It's not just illegal, it's immoral.
Respectfully, they don’t care and more critically, no one, no entity, no elected body, no mechanism at all is stopping them.
Sure, but they're doing it every day with nothing being done about it. So...
Write Project 2028. Get Bernie, Warren, AOC, and vanHollen to help you. We need this unifying document, with receipts, to starting showing the American people what we are FOR, not just what we are agsinst.
I forgot about Raskin. Add him to the Ptoject 2028 writing vore too. And start writing this immediately. We needed it months ago.
SO GO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. DO YOUR JOB. THIS IS WHY WE ELECTED YOU, TO ACT. NOT POST PLATITUDES ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
What specifically should he do that is within the powers of 1 Dem congressman? Please, enlighten everyone. The Dems do not have the numbers to do anything.
He could work with the Mayor, Governor, AG, FUCKING ANYONE to get the stupid pigs off our streets. Instead they just post on the socials.
U may like or hate Newsom at least he pretty sassy.
Do what? What do you want them to do? They don’t control Congress or the presidency, they don’t have any control over the cabinet appointments. Do what?
... and they flat out don't care, because no one will do anything about it. They do an illegal act and threaten us not to defend ourselves, how well do you think this is going to continue to go? . . .
Oh cool that's settled then, thanks Ted
Yeah, we’ve been saying that. So what do we do about it?!
They can until someone stops them. Complaining isn't a strategy. As a leader, do you have any ideas for actual action?
Lieu voted to block impeachment like 3 weeks ago. he fully supports the fascist
OF COURSE THEY CAN! When there is no one to stop them, they can do this, and even more. We're only at the beginning. It's what "the people" want. Our COuntry is screwed.
It is your state, your cops, your national guard, your rules… Activate the national guard to protect the people and have the police arrest them.
You are not really a country of laws any more buddy You hired a crook with felonies as your leader, either one of you steps up meaningfully or you fold the country to his gang of pals
Then get it stopped.
Herr Miller’s daily quotas have ICE Agents targeting Construction, Hospitality, and Farm Workers. Not “the worst of the worst”
So who’s stopping them? The law doesn’t seem to be a strong deterrent.
They are, tho
Why won’t the LAPD stop them??
I have seen police stopping and chasing out ICE in a number of places--which confirms that the ICE activity is illegal. Meanwhile in LA, the LAPD is complicit in the illegal activities. If they'd upheld the law, this whole ICE takeover bullshit, for which we are ground zero, would have fizzled.
So what are you doing about it?
The thing is… the law is fake and arbitrary. Whether It’s applied or not usually depends on if the person is rich. You must be new here.
Yet they are doing so. Why is Jeffries still in charge?
But they are doing exactly this so what can be done about it? And how is it Congress is soon leaving DC with all this happening?
So what are you going to do besides talk about it? Cuz they don’t give two squirts of p*ss if it’s illegal, Rep. Lieu. Another Feckless politician.
It's called Imperial Boomerang, lib.
And every business should be posting that ICE is not allowed on their property! Home Depot especially should begin a policy of no trespassing of ICE! Their failure may represent their acceptance!
Seems like a hate crime.
And yet it’s happening without the Dems organizing to do anything meaningful to stop, interrupt, or protest it.
This is true however SCOTUS is giving Trump some latitude AND Congress has completed rolled so who's left to enforce?
They CAN, because they DO. They MUST NOT, which is an entirely different thing. Laws don't enforce themselves. When police arrest them for doing it, then you'll have a case for "cannot."
This entire stinking regime is flat out illegal, and they're daring the rest of us to put a stop to it.
Trump has never had any interest in following the law. He in fact has accused those who enforce the law(s) of breaking the law, which echoes the rise of many brutal authoritarian dictators throughout history...
So Homan says out one side of his ass that ICE doesn't need probably cause to temporarily detain anybody they want. Noeme says out her ass that ICE does investigations before targeting <> Brown people who speak Spanish. And Trump says they're criminals or mentally ill. Got it.
But they are, so now what? It’s not illegal anymore if there are no consequences.
And yet they are doing it
You’re correct, now ask yourself if they care.
But they are Ted, they are and have been. They are and with impunity. I wonder about myself, if I witness someone being picked up by masked men, what will I do? Will I have the courage to try and protect them? Will I have the courage to put my body in the way, risk injury or arrest? I wonder.
Illegal and fascist leadership are contradictory states. everything and nothing is illegal, welcome to nazi germany conditions. now stop being jelly spined and arrest the administration. any means necessary need to be employed to take them out from power. the faster ppl acknowledge that the better
dang, maybe some people who've sworn to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, should well and faithfully discharge their duties
It's flat out illegal to be illegal no matter your color! Democrats are so lost and now their King has been accused of Treason.
And then refuse them counsel; refuse to let them notify their families or communicate with anyone; and deny hearings before shipping them off to a distant detention center … sometimes not in the US.
And yet......
So, make them stop!
I don’t think the problem is the illegality. It is that no one seems able/willing/capable of enforcing the law.
Stop them!
Yes. But who’s going to stop them?!
Merely talking about it is not really doing anything. A president who won't follow the law and/or the constitution is illegitimate.
Your belief in the law under a fascist regime is quaint.
Who’s going to arrest the ICE criminals? Can local police round up the kidnappers.
Yeah, sorry Ted - none of those unidentified masked, lawless, thugs gives a shit about the law - or our Constitution - they care about quotas. Quotas on hunting human beings because the Rule of Law has been voted out of our lives by the magats running cover for a pedofile child sex trafficker.
And yet they can, and are. Any plans to stop them? You're welcome to show up and pelt them with big heavy law books. Might be more effective than stating the obvious on social media.
Well said!!
Uh huh. And what are you going to do to stop them?
There is no law.
Then fucking do something, they clearly don't give a shit about the law.
Ted, I don’t know if you’ve been keeping up with the news lately but ice and border patrol are doing exactly that. What would it take for these departments to have to follow the actual laws of the United States?
Sick of this bullsh*t pissing & maoning from you. Dems did nothing about that $170 BILLION for ICe/Noem. Didn't even make an issue of it. STFU or tell us what you're doing to stop this Police State.
Yet, it’s happening. Fight harder.
These days, with these assholes, legality means nothing without enforcement. They will keep breaking the law as long as it means there are no consequences, to the point that the law itself means nothing anymore. Well-intended people merely saying “that’s illegal” are shouting into the wind.
SLO what is congress doing about it?
It requires you to do more than post. I am so tired of the postings and nothing much else. Strong emails, postings, press conferences DO inform but you're expecting intervention from others. We don't have a lot of power here.
Neither do lawmakers sadly. Governors must gather support of their constituents, state officials and FBI to stop infiltrators arresting people of color without warrants.
The idle griping on the news....its hollow complaining and I'm so sick of it, too. Its as bad as lying.
Lieu voted to block impeachment like 3 weeks ago. he fully supports the fascist
Prove it
Yes. It is. What are YOU going to do about it?
They’re going to point at it and then ask us to send them money so that they can maybe think about stopping it. 🙄
Please tell me you realize that’s the entire ooint of my question.
I do. Just letting Ted know we’re onto them. Finally. Embarrassingly late.
I thought but it’s hard to read tone here sometimes. I mean, I could put out a statement (maybe in the paper?) and it would mean nothing except an expression of this local’s opinion. They could do things, but won’t!
I’ve been saying that the gop didn’t do this alone since Nov 10, 2024. And a buuuuunch of big blue amway accounts selling the fantasy of dems as saviors got super pissed at me. I won’t be sending Dems another dime. No volunteering, no phone/text banking, literally nothing. Burn it down.
And yet, they're still doing it. BECAUSE NOBODY IS STOPPING THEM.
WE KNOW. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN? And don't tell us what WE should do, tell us how YOU are going to stop ICE. NOT EVEN 1 CONGRESSCRITTER has had the guts to promise arrests of these thugs when Trump is out of power. So they get more lawless by the day.
But yet they are. And Homan was on Morning Joe saying the Dem crates are the problem, not the ICE Agents. 🤓🤓
So was the fake president raping little girls. So was Noem making people of color disappear without habius corpus...what's your point?
So what is anyone doing about it??
And who is going to hold them accountable clearly they are operating under the auspice that we cannot stop them
Well we can do a letter, then T shirts and if that does not work maybe a heavy and I mean HEAVY leaflet drop, because you seem to be incapable of any actual action.
Someone should really tell ICE that.
The probable cause is that they are here illegally.
Assumptions abt status based on skin color is illegal. And upstanding LE have said they won't pursue anyone who hasn't done something illegal--thus no cooperation w/ ICE. People attending appts w/ immigration or doctors or their kids soccer games or just going to work are not doing anything illegal.
They are here illegally, thus, they have done something illegal.
You don't meet the probable cause threshold by making assumptions because someone's skin is brown and they are at Home Depot. And if someone is detained, It's Due Process for all. That's the law of the land.
Explain this...a man is here illegally. What due process does he need? Is he going to try to convince a judge that he is legal?
The Constitution is not merely a list of suggested guidelines. When the law is applied inconsistently or when parts of it are disregarded because of feelings, it puts our entire governmental infrastructure in jeopardy. Our oaths are to the Constitution--not an ideology or opinion.We uphold the law.
Explain the 2nd amendment?
Citizen or not, everyone within the US has the same protections guaranteed by our Constitution, & consistent application of the law is a bulwark against gov't abuse. Due process provides opportunity to define status--asylum seekers, visa & green card holders, people seeking citizenship, dreamers...
Just as liberals believe the 2nd amendment is debatable, so is the 4th amendment. We need to understand what the designers meant by under the jurisdiction. Since we can't prosecute any foreigner without their home country representing them.
We know but no one is stopping them
Just like almost all of Cheeto Man's actions. Yet no-one is challenging him.
No one is challenging President Trump? Thats laughable. Over 60 lower court rulings have been illegally levied against his EOs, virtually all shot down by higher courts.
Only on paper! He has hardly returned anyone from the overseas concentration camps for example.
You meant to say that they "may" not. They absolutely *can*. Anyone *can* do anything unless they are stopped. That's what armed police are for. Stopping criminals from committing crimes. ICE won't stop until our local police use force to stop them, just as they would any other criminal.
No one’s going to stop them OR the police except us.
1) Yup. We can... But we "may" not. 2) This is my second account at BlueSky, so suffice to say, "I do not advocate violence"
“I do not advocate violence” either. There’s more than one way to do this.
If our elected officials can't stop this then the people will.
And those elected officials will be kicked to the curb where they belong.
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The point needs to be made over and over again that if anything ICE was doing was legal or justified, there would be no need for masks. They’re wearing masks because they’re committing criminal activity, and want to avoid being held accountable for it
They are doing it, so what do we do? I say fight back. Punch back.
Well....they're doing it.
What we ignore, we endorse. What's the plan, man?
But they are, so what are WE the People going to do about it? California needs to step up for the rest of the country. Si se puede!
So, respectfully, what is the Dems' PLAN?
Absolutely delusional take. It's perfectly legal to make arrests in public spaces. My bigger concern is who was stupid enough to put you in Congress.
What will congress do about it? We non-congress people are protesting, calling reps, helping immigrants at court with ice goons, chasing ice of neighborhoods. What is congress doing besides sending objection letters and saying “it’s illegal?” Quit showing up…shut down the damn govt. Something.
They are following the law. Maybe you should try it.
There is nothing unlawful in what I said, nor did I suggest Congress do anything unlawful. Response was complete non sequitur. New glasses-maybe you should try them.
I didn't say you said anything unlawful. I think you should just learn what lawful is.
There will be trials. For many years to come.
Except, they are!
Hundreds of millions - 3 million+ with sworn oaths - are *allowing* them to. do. it. Including you. You are literally getting paid by taxpayers to *allow* them to. do. it.
They think they are above the law.
Home Depot seemingly approves of these raids. Stop spending money there.
How do you suggest we get the law enforced? I only see one option and it is not okay to talk about.
And break their car windows….
Agreed. But, who will enforce the law?
They do it all day long every day.
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What happened to the “dangerous violent criminals”? They are in disguise as cooks, busboys, maids, and farm workers?
NO ONE IS STOPPING THEM
But, but.... they're still doing it. It's because NO ONE is stopping them.
LOUDER
“Without probable cause” how about never ever jack ass. Abolish ICE or get primaried
Yet here we are
Impeach the president
Duh
Okay but...they don't care. They're fascists. You're not playing the same game. In fact, you're not even on the same planet.
But they will and there isn't a Democrat getting in there to "really" help these people.
YES, WE ARE AWARE! But YOU and your colleagues need to figure out how to combat/end this nightmare, you are in a MUCH better position than we "little people" to accomplish such, sir.
Crimes Against Humanity Dehumanization Demonising FASCISM It's what Fascists do when they don't recognize humans as humans anymore. Open your eyes How fascism works, and how to stop it: Dehumanizing people is the first and last step in a fascist society www.realchangenews.org/news/2022/06...
Human Rights are under threat by the Maga Nazi Regime. It's documented so far, and will be documented for future sake. Like we did with Nazi Germany. ARTICLE 3 I have the right to life and to live in freedom and safety. Universal Declaration of Human Rights
something being illegal doesnt mean they cant do it
Why our state has passed a law against it
That's exactly what they're doing. PERIOD💯 PERIOD💯
And I can't legally go into a department store and walk out with thousands of dollars worth of goods without paying. But if nobody stops me, I certainly CAN. And your point is?…
Oh jeez, are you just now getting here?
Yet they're doing it anyway. Why aren't democrats fighting harder?
You all knew what you were into. Every politician in the US did a shitty job too yourself and the world. Hope you learn
The problem is, who's gonna stop them?