"Scotland does not “own” its electricity. Once generated, it enters the UK-wide market and must be bought back at market rates by Scottish users – even if they’re located next to the turbine."
"Scotland does not “own” its electricity. Once generated, it enters the UK-wide market and must be bought back at market rates by Scottish users – even if they’re located next to the turbine."
So you think Scotland would benefit from even more geographic pricing... Interesting. Like turkeys voting for...
We need local hydro electric guttering.
It's exactly the same for an English or Wesh household living next to a wind turbine....... how weird, but only in Scotland do the wee people make it a national issue.
Doesn't that tell you something about the people in power ( pun intended)?
Don’t be shy Chris what’s your answer to this one now. 🤔
I personally find all nationalisms petty, whether English, Welsh or Scots.
Chris if we were in a proper equal Union with England we wouldn’t be so hardline. Our gripe is not with England or its people, our gripe is with the corrupt WM Establishment. WM, wasted Scotland’s oil and now it is about to do the same with our renewable energy sources. WM is not a team player.
Nobody can argue that WM isn't full of wasteful selfish thieving fuckers!
With you on that one.
Really? That’s amazing
Not only that The uk government want to build Nuclear power stations in Scotland (that we don’t need) to supply England with electricity In order to do this they are building massive pylons to transfer the power directly to England Just one more reason that Scotland needs independence 🏴🇪🇺
First they came for oor land and I said nothing because I owned no land. Then they came for my gas and oil, and I said nothing because I owned no wells. Finally they came for the wind at my back...
That perfectly brings out the lack of an analogy.
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We might not ‘own’ it but we are a net exporter of it. Then we have to pay handsomely to get to use it!
That is totally mad
I agree with much (most) of this, but an individual's proximity to a wind turbine is surely irrelevant. Should people living next to a surgery pay less for prescriptions? Should people living near the railway station get cheaper tickets?
In Shetland, for example, we have one of the largest wind farms in the UK, which (arguably) impacts on our other amenities. Despite our contribution to greening UK energy we pay *more* for our electricity than other parts of the UK.
Certainly you shouldn't be paying more - that's part of the way the current system is broken. My point was that everyone should pay the same, and happening to live next to a wind farm or a nuclear power station isn't relevant.
Due to the absence of zonal pricing, which has been rejected as it would mean higher prices in London, Scottish consumers are seeing turbines next to their houses switched off, then paying for electricity like it was gas. Do you see the logic for zones for energy? octopus.energy/blog/locatio...
An awful lot of weight is being placed on that "due to"...
I am sure you are already aware but there is an article here - www.theguardian.com/business/202... London already enjoys numerous advantages including higher pay, this was one small way it could have been rebalanced. Scotland has spent decades installing turbines, to no advantage at all.
But it doesn't meet my point.
I think the point was home grown energy, would be cheaper controlled by us, and not by economic illiterate WM.
That's the bit I broadly agree with - it's just the *individual's* proximity to wind turbines, etc., that seems irrelevant.
I think you're maybe reading too much into that.
I wish I were, but it's a something that people are genuinely arguing and campaigning for.
But they are so ugly and expensive, not at all like a pretty coal fired power station with cheap power
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This article promotes 'direct wires' from turbine to user, and a big expansion of district heating..... 1/3
(3/3) district heating has two challenges: 1- retrofitting is v v expensive and requires way more compelx coordination than individual heat pump/ insulation. 2 - the unfortunate reality seeps in when the system operator ends up being slow to repair faults, or prices themselves as a local monopoly.
(2/3) Direct Wires seems a great idea, until you start to think that maybe the grid exists so that there is continuity of supply. A business that is only productive when the wind is blowing over that turbine is not a stable business!