The thing is: They’re not wrong about this part. But it exposes how hypocritical they’ve been to attack anyone who has pointed this out as “socialists” for decades — and what a convenient lie the “free market” has always been.
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Republicans crying about non existent communist. But it was them the entire time.
aug 26, 2025, 4:44 am • 0 0 • view
Actually the public gets the results
aug 26, 2025, 3:43 am • 2 0 • view
No, fuck that. These universities did all the work to even get something to patent. They deserve all the credit and anything that they gain from it. Taxpayers give this money to universities to invent and create things we don't have, but might need. The gov just wants to take it.
aug 27, 2025, 3:29 am • 0 0 • view
I disagree. I don’t think we should get full control of the patent, mind you. But we should get *some* control. Specifically, the patents should be kept for domestic production. Right now, they’d just make things worse and give it to their sugar daddies, so it’s a hard “no”, though.
aug 27, 2025, 6:18 am • 1 0 • view
I understand your point, and it's valid. I've never heard of grants or subsidies that have ever come with such a demand. On its face, it just seems like another way to fleece us, and we really don't have anything left to give.
aug 27, 2025, 6:31 am • 0 0 • view
This move by Trump definitely is just a way to fleece people, don’t get me wrong. But, IIRC, vanadium reflow batteries were developed under us grants and now we can’t produce them because a Chinese company took the patent. Which is why we don’t have them available for grid energy storage.
aug 27, 2025, 6:56 am • 1 0 • view
Ah, I wasn't aware of that. Thank you for sharing this.
aug 27, 2025, 6:58 am • 0 0 • view
Personally? The patent system needs to be overhauled so that the big corps don’t dominate everything as much- particularly in slap fights because small business or individuals simply can’t compete. Trump isn’t trying to fix shit, though do this should be opposed (like everything else he does.)
aug 27, 2025, 6:56 am • 1 0 • view
Agreed!
aug 27, 2025, 6:57 am • 0 0 • view
Billionaires are using taxpayer funded research to make products, charge taxpayers top dollar, weasel out of paying their fair share taxes, and run corporations that weasel out of paying their fair share of taxes. But Universities are the problem?
aug 26, 2025, 2:45 am • 50 7 • view
Sweet jesus. Put your hand back in your pocket, greedy nutlick.
aug 26, 2025, 6:06 pm • 3 1 • view
He’s right about that. Problem is we’re never going to see the change and improvement anyways. All of our funds are going to be funneled to Heritage’s pockets and prisons like for the last several months.
aug 26, 2025, 8:52 pm • 0 0 • view
🖋️ If a company's R&D and eventual patents are financially supported by the Federal Government, and the project is commercially successful, that company should repay the grant thru royalties. I've always believed this to be the responsible and common sense way to go. 🖋️
aug 26, 2025, 3:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Short-term thinking in a long-term game. Something Republicans excel at.
aug 27, 2025, 1:20 am • 0 0 • view
We get the benefits of that research you lying phony.
aug 26, 2025, 1:23 pm • 0 0 • view
We get nothing? We get cures, we get advancements, we get all the advantages the world's most brilliant minds can come up with. You can't patent a nothing - what a sniveling idiot Lutnick is.
aug 26, 2025, 2:33 am • 3 0 • view
They are absolutely wrong about this part. The American people have gotten millions of lives saved, and trillions of dollars worth of economically useful discoveries and inventions, from investing in research at universities.
aug 26, 2025, 3:34 pm • 0 0 • view
And this way they can ensure that taxes for the oligarchy can be further reduced.
aug 26, 2025, 3:26 pm • 0 0 • view
University IP rarely makes money. Congress started Bayh Dole to increase commercialization of federally supported research. It did that. He is also just wrong. The federal gov retains March In rights on federally sponsored research. The regime just wants a piece of all action, like any criminal org
aug 26, 2025, 12:28 pm • 8 1 • view
And the US retains 'march-in' rights. Aside from that, taxpayers - the ultimate customers, the patients - benefit because this basic research is simply not research that private enterprise will fund. It gets life-saving products to market as fast as possible. Lutnick can punch himself in the face.
aug 26, 2025, 6:26 pm • 0 0 • view
What little I know about the inner workings of US-funded research for universities and scientists... With that being said: I've never seen an academic researcher who was rolling in the kind of cash that the average CEO makes, as a result of his/her groundbreaking discovery.
aug 27, 2025, 2:23 am • 0 0 • view
No he’s NOT right. The patents covers research in other areas, medical care and tuition. Private companies get R&D $ and they can decide the price of the drugs and demand. Universities do not. NOT RIGHT AT ALL
aug 26, 2025, 2:17 am • 82 5 • view
Research is done for the people, for humanity, not to put money in your fat a••
aug 26, 2025, 4:29 pm • 0 0 • view
So they'll take over the pharmaceutical companies, demand a percentage and "the People" will see bupkis because it'll go right into their own pockets.
aug 26, 2025, 11:06 am • 0 0 • view
Universities don’t just get money for free, the govt is giving grants specifically for something they would need or benefit from, or would be for the good of society.
aug 26, 2025, 2:02 pm • 0 0 • view
Idiot we get cures, new technology. life saving devices. This is one Howie that deserves a big glove over his head, with head and feet bound.
aug 26, 2025, 4:48 am • 1 0 • view
There's also a reason why federally funded research usually gives the university/lab the patent rights. The feds have no effective means of commercializing the discovery. See Bayh-Dole Act. www.vklaw.com/ImagineThatI...
aug 26, 2025, 8:36 pm • 3 1 • view
Bullshit. Ask him if he knows what a CRADA is. www.doi.gov/techtransfer... Or benefits-sharing agreements for natural resources in the national parks. npshistory.com/publications...
aug 26, 2025, 8:33 pm • 0 0 • view
Smells kinda Socialist to me
aug 26, 2025, 2:39 am • 1 0 • view
This is the line for all industries that deal with our government now. They are becoming insistent on stealing IP from contractors. I won’t be surprised when companies start avoiding doing business in favor of foreign interests. Short term gain with zero foresight
aug 26, 2025, 5:01 pm • 0 0 • view
I get your main point is about hypocrisy, but I have to pipe up to say they are wrong. Taxpayers get inordinate benefits from universities, they just aren’t as easily measured as an input/output dollar sign. The ROI is very high.
aug 26, 2025, 2:35 am • 17 0 • view
Wonder if any of those findings are benefitting Donold John Trump right now? He is obviously on some kind of medical treatment.
aug 26, 2025, 11:50 am • 0 0 • view
Explain that! You didn't do the work and there was no agreement that you would profit. Look for someone else to rip off.
aug 26, 2025, 8:33 pm • 0 0 • view
How do American taxpayers not benefit from cutting edge research and development that is peer reviewed and benefits humanity? Sure, pharmaceutical companies need to pay higher licence fees and charge lower prices, but cutting funding is cutting off your own foot. This is ideological nonsense.
aug 26, 2025, 7:52 am • 3 1 • view
So which are they? Free market capitalists or big government? I’m so confused. Also- I can think of nothing this administration has done of benefit to the average American taxpayer. It’s all to line their own pockets.
aug 26, 2025, 12:07 pm • 0 0 • view
He's wrong on many fronts. E.g., government infrastructure can’t meet the level, depth, or magnitude of research of universities so they supplement those programs and use the information discovered to enhance their own programs and further their own goals. It's symbiotic and it works well.
aug 26, 2025, 9:07 pm • 2 1 • view
Also, I'll happily use my taxpayer money to fund research at universities rather than pad a corporate billionaire's pocket. Never believe this regime. They will always twist the truth and manipulate the facts. They are LIARS.
aug 26, 2025, 9:07 pm • 1 1 • view
sure let's repeal the Bayh–Dole Act and put publicly funded research in the public domain
aug 26, 2025, 5:07 am • 0 0 • view
They do the research corporations will not do because there may not be a quick financial return. Universities helped build our world leading economy with their research.
aug 26, 2025, 3:07 am • 0 0 • view
Exactly this
aug 26, 2025, 8:30 pm • 0 0 • view
Don’t make me tap the sign SOCIALISM IS WHEN WORKERS OWN THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION
aug 26, 2025, 8:09 am • 2 0 • view
I’ve seen complaints from the Left about this for years, so it’s funny how the Right is catching up. I’m fine with funding science research, but it seems wrong that drugs are also more expensive here. I’m no socialist, but we’re clearly getting ripped off in this transaction.
aug 26, 2025, 6:11 pm • 0 0 • view
What we get is the benefits of that research in our lives, smh.
aug 26, 2025, 11:26 am • 0 0 • view
There should be some residual benefit for the investment, imo. But the development is a mutual process, that would not have been possible without cooperation. And products are primarily the result of their work, their people, and previous investments.
aug 26, 2025, 2:32 am • 3 0 • view
Fuck. They need to profit off everything.
aug 26, 2025, 1:29 pm • 1 0 • view
Communism was when the government owns corporations and makes decisions about the manufacturing processes. This caused the USSR’s economy to fail.
aug 26, 2025, 1:29 pm • 0 0 • view
The Bayh-Dole Act of 1980 revolutionized technology transfer by allowing universities, small businesses, and nonprofits to retain intellectual property and to license discoveries –that were based on federal research funding www.aau.edu/key-issues/p...
aug 26, 2025, 5:17 pm • 1 0 • view
“Socialism will save us all but capitalism will only save ME.”
aug 26, 2025, 11:05 pm • 0 0 • view
Hmmm really?
aug 27, 2025, 2:15 am • 0 0 • view
I hope that guy stubs his little toe and bleeds out.
aug 26, 2025, 11:38 am • 0 0 • view
They do the hard work they deserve the credit. Their logic is flawed the studies funded by the universities are essential. They do everything from cancer research to diabetes research
aug 26, 2025, 7:31 pm • 2 2 • view
Please delete or at least post a correction to your post because it is not correct 👇🏼
aug 26, 2025, 5:57 am • 2 1 • view
Make the patents, find the medicines, that's swell. I'm not smart enough to find the answer to cancer, but MAYBE someone is! Feel free to use my tax dollars or research instead of more military.
aug 26, 2025, 2:44 pm • 25 2 • view
The government is not involved in running business or obtaining patents. Unless they want to be communist. Free market or capitalist systems though do often support business and industries with subsidies. That’s socialist. Big difference.
aug 26, 2025, 5:14 pm • 0 0 • view
@thetnholler.bsky.social Well, everyone wants communism and here it is - why isn't everyone cheering for it?
aug 26, 2025, 2:14 am • 0 0 • view
Depends a lot on the grant and the subject matter. You can bet the DoD keeps anything they paid for.
aug 27, 2025, 2:12 am • 0 0 • view
A broken clock is right twice a day…
aug 26, 2025, 8:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Yep. but I don't believe for a second that this is to benefit Americans.
aug 26, 2025, 8:20 pm • 0 0 • view
We get... nothing? Except cures for diseases, better ways to live longer and healthier, answers to questions on how our bodies work...
aug 26, 2025, 8:29 pm • 7 1 • view
For what it’s worth, there’s a reason why the federal government doesn’t outright own inventions that originate from federal research grants: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayh%E2...
aug 26, 2025, 4:31 am • 5 3 • view
Wasn't Lutnick a grand dragon a few years back????
aug 26, 2025, 4:28 pm • 0 0 • view
Well we also got GPS and tons of vaccine information and tons of material sciences and loads of other useful shit. But sure, let’s go full socialist with this and give the government the means of production, so long as the people reap the full benefits.
aug 26, 2025, 2:30 am • 1 0 • view
It was a good system because it allowed for the most creative and often quite rapid commercialization of research. That means new companies, jobs, products, markets and tax revenue down the line. Proven cheaper and faster than gov run systems and more efficient than industry.
aug 26, 2025, 2:19 pm • 0 0 • view
What? How does what they’re doing not helping us. They really are trying to get a piece of everything.
aug 26, 2025, 3:45 pm • 0 0 • view
I'm sorry. Education and cures are 'nothing'??
aug 26, 2025, 9:13 pm • 0 0 • view
Nah, republicans hypocrites?, it can't be!
aug 26, 2025, 2:22 am • 0 0 • view
also worth pointing out that the free market never actually invents (finds a new idea), it only innovates (combines ideas in the pursuit of efficiency/profit). real research is too risky for the market, that’s why we collectively fund it.
aug 26, 2025, 9:29 pm • 0 0 • view
Of course all he can think about is the money… not that these universities actually find cures and/or treatments to help all of us.
aug 26, 2025, 1:10 pm • 0 0 • view
1/2- He is 100% wrong. We get the benefits of the research being done. We get the benefit of the discoveries made during the research. We get the benefit of having the world’s most renown higher education system that attracts the best and brightest minds worldwide. One of the primary functions of
aug 26, 2025, 12:19 pm • 6 0 • view
2/2. government is to fund important projects that would be too risky or unprofitable to attract private funding, projects that have a high societal value. That is why we help fund university research projects & countless other public works. It’s not socialism, it’s a functioning government.
aug 26, 2025, 12:19 pm • 5 0 • view
This Administration and its backers are going to regret their experiment with state capitalism. Once the door to direct state control of industry and markets is open, it's very hard to close again. 😁 (Libertarians, how ya doin'?)
aug 26, 2025, 5:04 pm • 0 0 • view
SOCIALIST CAPITALISM..fucking worse than socialist democracy ..one helps the other steals... eff them.
aug 26, 2025, 11:44 am • 0 0 • view
The problem with simply buying a share in a company instead of using that money for the intended purpose of research, they use it to give the CEO a raise?
aug 26, 2025, 10:41 pm • 0 0 • view
What if the company never makes a profit, or takes the money from Trump and simply buys back its own stock?
aug 26, 2025, 10:38 pm • 1 0 • view
How will the income be distributed?
aug 26, 2025, 10:36 pm • 0 0 • view
So are those new Trump golf courses in Vietnam and Scotland owned by the American Government and We The People? #Nutlick
aug 26, 2025, 2:36 am • 6 0 • view
I find it hard to believe either of them are taxpayers And I find it hard to believe either of them actually think this It's just a ploy to secure votes they know they're going to lose. If somehow everyone fucks up and keeps all these fucks in power, they'll drop this instantly and just take the $
aug 26, 2025, 8:50 pm • 0 0 • view
Also we do get something back, we get the benefit of the research. We get closer to curing many cancers, we get vaccines that keep us from getting sick and dying, the list goes on!
aug 27, 2025, 4:01 am • 0 0 • view
I don't think we get nothing. They are required to publish, etc. We get the research. You can't just eliminate the research. He probably doesn't have an alternative to that, does he?
aug 26, 2025, 11:05 pm • 1 1 • view
Big Pharma are the ones with the patents we funded the research for; they turn around and charge exorbitant prices to patients. They buy media silence about them by paying tons of money for ads to the networks and news agencies and pay lobbiests to shut down legislation to bring down prices. Do them
aug 26, 2025, 4:35 am • 0 0 • view
You mean the people who educated themselves for decades and are probably paying back predatory student loans for life and do ALL the work get the patents? Fuck the ignorant parasitic rich.
aug 26, 2025, 5:55 am • 2 0 • view
I'd also argue that the "nothing" we receive includes groundbreaking medical treatments, vaccines, safer food/water/air, improved technologies, on and on....
aug 26, 2025, 3:23 am • 32 2 • view
Totally fair!! Make it the same as NASA where discoveries become public domain.
aug 26, 2025, 2:22 am • 1 0 • view
So Elon can get rich off NASA
aug 26, 2025, 3:45 pm • 1 0 • view
NASA has pioneered many technologies over the years that were released to the public domain. Your tax dollars funded it, why should an individual contractor be the only one who benefits? Made public domain means everyone can leverage the discovery. One example: www.nasa.gov/news-release...
aug 26, 2025, 3:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems to me NASA mentored SpaceX and assured them of success and guaranteed contracts. And now NASA budget will be cut in favor of more SpaceX contracts which will probably mean future research and innovation will not be in the public domain. Yes? No?
aug 26, 2025, 4:45 pm • 2 0 • view
That's not my understanding, but I certainly don't know everything. They competed against Boeing and others to win contracts. Boeing has failed to provide "shuttle service" to the ISS, for example, missed deadlines, whereas SpaceX has succeeded. I am happy to be corrected if I am wrong.
aug 26, 2025, 8:39 pm • 0 0 • view
I don’t think SpaceX would exist without “special” help from NASA
aug 26, 2025, 11:53 pm • 1 0 • view
Fair enough. Certainly not the first startup to be saved by a Hail Mary deal. In any case, they delivered and Boeing still has not been a reliable transport. NASA contractors, military contractors, basically every company that the government contracts with is a US suckling. No argument from me.
aug 27, 2025, 4:35 am • 0 0 • view
Art. I, Sect. 8: "Congress shall have the power...To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries." Fucking fuckers fucking shit up.
aug 26, 2025, 7:36 pm • 2 1 • view
These freaks rig the system. Do you think you are going to get in on these industries? Like marijuana growing? Fuck no. They make it exclusive with fees and regulations and monopolize it. This country is a f-ing scam 24/7. There are no "free markets"....just "what's in it for me?"
aug 26, 2025, 2:17 am • 2 1 • view
That's why it's called a grant instead of a loan? To assist in the research, not so the government can make a buck that they think should be split between them.
aug 26, 2025, 5:06 am • 14 2 • view
You're on fire, Tennessee Holler. 🙏
aug 26, 2025, 6:42 pm • 0 0 • view
We don't "get nothing" - we get the benefits of that research in medication and life-saving techniques, improved weather information, better agricultural practices, etc. If private industry would pay for this (and they won't) they would charge us an enormous amount for its use.
aug 26, 2025, 10:29 pm • 2 1 • view
Link to those who want to thank Aaron directly: (why does TTH always post screenshots instead of direct links?)
aug 26, 2025, 8:26 am • 0 0 • view
Mr NutLik does not understand how much scientific research at U.S. universities contributes to every facet of American life.
aug 27, 2025, 12:04 am • 1 0 • view
It made a lot of rich people obscenely richer.
aug 26, 2025, 1:00 pm • 0 0 • view
We get the information from the research .
aug 26, 2025, 3:45 pm • 0 0 • view
Creative destruction - wealth inequality, environmental damage, economic instability, and market monopolies, rather than the abundant and fair society capitalism promotes.
aug 26, 2025, 1:50 pm • 2 0 • view
our tax dollars pay for free college educations & free healthcare for all israeli citizens, while we are denied that. our tax dollars continue to fund a genocide, & our leaders are too busy scraping in billions from aipac. we simply dont matter. i dont believe i ever shall. i am nothing but fodder.
aug 26, 2025, 2:25 am • 2 0 • view
Yeah..... Corporate America hasnt LEVERAGED TAXPAYER PAID SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES to make TRILLIONS in the last 100 years.. FFS.
aug 26, 2025, 3:15 am • 0 0 • view
Looks like Nutlick has a peanut for a brain. #Dumbass
aug 26, 2025, 4:42 pm • 0 0 • view
The American Tax payer gets nothing? What do they they think all the research leads to? Bridges to nowhere?
aug 26, 2025, 9:16 pm • 0 0 • view
So what this did for those not really following it. Is the loans that Intel took out have been converted from loans into a 10% ownership stake. They don't have to pay them back anymore. But INTEL IS IN BAD SHAPE. We are going to lose our asses on that 10%. This is from 2 weeks ago
aug 26, 2025, 2:51 pm • 0 0 • view
Oh, if this is their take, what about the patents for companies that we taxpayers fund through subsidies? Does that mean that their patents should belong to us too? Hey Musky Boy, do I have some news for you according to Lutnick.
aug 26, 2025, 12:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Otherwise, it’s called socialism for the government to take the profit.
aug 26, 2025, 11:20 am • 0 0 • view
they have gone so far right they are circling back around left
aug 26, 2025, 3:37 am • 0 0 • view
Also, yeah, they keep the patents, but everyone else gains from most of their research. If you don't pay scientists for their work, they might just go back to gardening and you can chip a stone to make a tool, like a couple millennia back. No scientist gets really rich on their research, you know...
aug 26, 2025, 8:45 am • 2 0 • view
Public grant dollars aren’t just ‘given’ to unis, they compete for them. In the case of Land-grant unis, awarded grant dollars fund both basic and applied research, the latter of which often benefits communities directly through Extension outreach programs.
aug 26, 2025, 7:02 pm • 0 0 • view
Lutnick is an idiot. Don’t give him cred. All research funded in higher ed in the US, and I’m sure it’s that way everywhere, has to go through a rigorous review process before it can proceed, and part of that is proving it has benefit for the greater good.
aug 26, 2025, 4:21 pm • 0 0 • view
Nutlick cannot be that stupid. Or obtuse. Or lacking understanding of how the world works. If he IS, then he needs to go back to his old job because he's not fit for this one.
aug 26, 2025, 12:55 pm • 2 0 • view
In an ideal world there would be some equations written where a percentage of funds would go into a sovereign wealth fund which had strict rules for managing its control. Other countries manage to do this.
aug 26, 2025, 2:58 am • 0 0 • view
Actually we get to benefit from their research whether it be cures for diseases, better ways to do things or improve our quality of life
aug 26, 2025, 4:00 pm • 0 0 • view
I wonder if Lutnick spent much time hanging out with his old neighbor, in NYC? Hmmmmmm
aug 26, 2025, 11:13 am • 3 1 • view
Probably 30mins early to every party.
aug 26, 2025, 11:25 am • 3 2 • view
And stayed late after.
aug 26, 2025, 11:45 am • 2 0 • view
Overnight in the guest bedroom. It was probably decked out in gold with a T on the headboard. Freaks! 😠
aug 26, 2025, 11:48 am • 2 1 • view
Definitely. 😳😝
aug 26, 2025, 12:24 pm • 1 0 • view
Nutlick is not qualified to have a job.
aug 26, 2025, 3:39 am • 0 0 • view
TOO MANY BASEBALL BATS ARE RESTING AND NEED TO GO UPSIDE THE HEADS OF THESE KKKONSERVATIVES!!!
aug 26, 2025, 8:16 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m ok with tax dollars going to health care research. I don’t want any tax dollars going to corporations through subsidies, tax cuts and loopholes.
aug 26, 2025, 11:35 am • 2 0 • view
The people get nothing from scientific research 🙄
aug 26, 2025, 7:06 am • 1 0 • view
it's called CAPITALISM moron
aug 26, 2025, 4:42 pm • 0 0 • view
By this point conservative Christians are little more than unquestioning trained beasts. If they can't see whats happening, then they are too stupid or evil to be included in the conversation.
aug 26, 2025, 2:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Suddenly Republicans, MAGA etc. care about scientific progress? 🥴 Anything for the Culture War, I guess. Actually, I think the "Culture War" is one of the few patents they are still maintaining.🤔
aug 26, 2025, 6:28 am • 1 0 • view
Does every invention or patent have to have a financial benefit in order for it to be valuable? People benefit from medical research without requiring a payment from the patent or maker. It is bad enough that America has fallen into a situation where everything is viewed in terms of monetary value..
aug 26, 2025, 6:37 am • 0 0 • view
Ok, but we give HUGE tax breaks to corporations and we don’t get anything back from them either. AND somehow they’re treated like they’re people and get to influence our voting/politicians?
aug 26, 2025, 2:14 am • 117 12 • view
Howard Nutlick. There, fixed it!
aug 27, 2025, 4:45 am • 0 0 • view
More like communists, nothing they do is for people who aren't rich like them
aug 27, 2025, 12:12 am • 0 0 • view
We get the benefits of the research and the patents and the breakthroughs! Wtf people.
aug 26, 2025, 3:49 pm • 0 0 • view
The DRUG COMPANIES profit from the R&D that taxpayers pay for twice. First to fund the college research; and then to buy our meds at extorted prices. Like the over $500,000 in my life I have given to the drug companies for the insulin I need to survive.
aug 26, 2025, 1:12 pm • 0 0 • view
Long-distance railroad transportation was made possible by huge federal land grants to the railroads. Should the railroads be paying royalties to the federal government? Or how about frozen orange juice concentrate? Invented in a Department of Agriculture lab. Should Minute Maid pay the US?
aug 26, 2025, 2:23 am • 2 0 • view
It's an economic output multiplier and the government gets it back in taxes over time. The chump either knows that and is lying, or is completely in over his head. Research dollars do this all the time. Look at NASA's budget: www.space.com/nasa-economi... $25.4B drives $75.6B in economic activity.
aug 26, 2025, 4:20 am • 0 1 • view
Things have to change - and let’s not forget about all the maga churches with tax free status that use their pulpits and clout to push their political agendas..
aug 26, 2025, 7:31 am • 0 0 • view
Uh, we get the science and then the universities can fund more science and research for companies to profit from?
aug 26, 2025, 2:14 am • 34 2 • view
SOCIALISM NOW, YOU STUPID FUCKERS!! NO MORE CENTRIST BOOMER DEMOCRATS!!!!
aug 27, 2025, 12:09 am • 0 0 • view
drug companies do the same thing with the tax code.
aug 26, 2025, 3:47 am • 0 0 • view
The whole argument is stupid. The US Government is not a profit-making enterprise! It's here to SUPPORT our citizens, our economy, and our profit-making capitalist infrastructure. When it funds research, it does so so the American economy and society benefits, so whatever it is, WE GET THERE FIRST!
aug 26, 2025, 4:24 pm • 1 0 • view
The beneficiaries of the research are not just the universities and researchers who get the grants, but America as a whole. Who do you want making these breakthrough discoveries, advancing our science, technology, medicine, and benefiting our economy? Us, or just cede everything to the Chinese?
aug 26, 2025, 4:24 pm • 1 0 • view
Those who get patents and license agreements, PAY TAXES. That's how capitalism works. That's how it's always worked. That's how it's SUPPOSED to work! The government wanting ownership?? That's not capitalism.
aug 26, 2025, 4:24 pm • 1 0 • view
The ROI on these university grants is tremendous. Investment in private companies will result in preferential treatment and empowering corporations to skirt worker protections and ultimately hurt us all. Corporations have far too much power and not enough regulation
aug 26, 2025, 12:14 pm • 2 0 • view
He’s wrong. We all reap the benefits of research at universities especially in the medical field. Privatizing research will make us less healthy & less competitive as a country. Why? Private industry doesn’t care unless money can be made. academicmedicine.aamc.org/research-cures
aug 26, 2025, 7:19 am • 12 1 • view
Also, privatized research leads to e.g. tobacco industry doing "research" that says "smoking is good for your lungs". Those who pay, get to dictate the results.
aug 26, 2025, 7:39 am • 10 0 • view
The thing is companies get tens of billions of dollars a year from the US gov't and take that money, do research and get patents and who keeps them? We bail out private companies and corporate stock buybacks and the American taxpayer gets nothing.
aug 26, 2025, 12:42 pm • 0 0 • view
We the people get nothing, but better health care, innovations that improve our lives, a better economy. What they really want is for we the people to die due to lack of health care, pay more for food, and other goods so that a CEO can have a 5th jet and 9th Yacht.
aug 26, 2025, 2:05 pm • 0 0 • view
It's kind a like becoming a billionaire on the backs of working class who get nothing, while the wealthy ruling class reap all the benefits of the system and pays no taxes. How is that any different? Pay you fair share of taxes to the system that makes you millions Luttnick aka Fuckstick
aug 26, 2025, 4:33 pm • 0 0 • view
Uhmmmm….$200 billion?
aug 26, 2025, 8:40 pm • 0 0 • view
His statement is mostly pure bullshit. The 💰 is not given. It is provided as grants or contracts with oversight, objectives and outcomes. The patents are often awarded to the scientists and the university. Society and our government gets a large return on investment- educated people,
aug 27, 2025, 3:29 am • 0 0 • view
New technology, better treatments, etc. university of Wisconsin for exa- first blood thinner drug developed there; how to synthesize and add vitamin D to milk. Calculate the value society receives by people living productive lives 10s years longer. I can do this all night.
aug 27, 2025, 3:29 am • 0 0 • view
This just makes it clear I'm going to avoid Intel as much as possible in the future.
aug 26, 2025, 11:29 am • 0 0 • view
Except having the most competitive and productive research and progress of any country. Guess not anymore.
aug 26, 2025, 1:53 pm • 0 0 • view
But that’s just money to fund the research- then the scientists with the ideas and education go about discovering the “wonder drugs” and/or cures…no big deal right?! Those patents and the money derived probably go on to fund more life saving discoveries. Just sayin.
aug 26, 2025, 12:22 pm • 0 0 • view
That’s what they do. They say something positive/popular on its face to garner support, and then when they reveal what they are really up to, those of us who knew say “I told you so” and the rest say “uh, not like that”.
aug 26, 2025, 2:36 pm • 0 0 • view
With Nvidia coughing up 15% upon Trump's demand last week, and now this, sounds like Fox is priming their viewers to applaud payola to the federal government. Remember, Fox is the garden of lies that their viewers accept as truth. L'etat c'est moi, Mr. Trump?
aug 26, 2025, 2:26 am • 1 0 • view
When Universities make groundbreaking discoveries and benefit from that— it is wrong. When Big Pharma or other actors benefit from those same discoveries and overcharge customers while wildly overpaying executives— that’s the American Way!!!
aug 26, 2025, 2:38 pm • 0 0 • view
What’s the ROI on ICE?
aug 26, 2025, 2:32 am • 9 0 • view
Negative 1 functional democracy
aug 26, 2025, 5:56 pm • 1 0 • view
University research is responsible for so many medical and technology advancements that those grants have paid for themselves many times over. Unless you don't give a shit about the betterment of our society.
aug 26, 2025, 4:36 pm • 0 0 • view
It's not your money, ButtLick.
aug 26, 2025, 8:12 pm • 2 1 • view
This is so LatAm. You know who pulled these govt “pound of flesh rescues” all the time? The Kirchners in Argentina. MALA = Making America Latin America, congrats GOP.
aug 26, 2025, 3:08 am • 0 0 • view
the american taxpayers get THE ADVANCES IN SCIENCE BORNE OUT OF THE FUCKING RESEARCH
aug 26, 2025, 4:08 pm • 0 0 • view
So Lutnick is promoting socialized medicine now? What a weird timeline we live in
aug 26, 2025, 12:37 pm • 0 0 • view
This is Fascism.
aug 26, 2025, 11:01 am • 1 0 • view
They get the discovery, the medicine, the solution….
aug 26, 2025, 9:14 pm • 0 0 • view
Wow, Lutnick. "Let's dress up creeping communism & feed it to the peasants, as if they'll ever see any of that extortion money we rake in." Tell him: Now do Big Pharma! Govt funds much of their R&D, they make massive profits from publicly funded meds, AND they get massive tax breaks to buy Congress
aug 26, 2025, 8:10 pm • 0 0 • view
And the universities license it out and create startups which creates jobs and revenue and tax returns. And this has been a discussion since decades.
aug 26, 2025, 10:58 am • 0 0 • view
It's more a critique of the intellectual property regime we've developed to mostly protect corporations. People benefit because all that research stones innovation, reduces costs, and generally makes everyone's lives better.
aug 26, 2025, 5:33 pm • 0 0 • view
The “we get nothing” part is debatable and also raises the question of the purpose of government. As the constitution explained one of the purposes of government is to promote the general welfare which R&D especially in health supports. And you would get more back if you had a higher tax rate.
aug 26, 2025, 2:29 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes they are wrong. What a short sighted view of investing in our own country. This is the best part of capitalism the only “ism” that works.
aug 27, 2025, 2:18 am • 0 0 • view
Now can we talk about the trillion dollar petroleum industry subsidized by taxpayer? They keep all the profits and then some.
aug 26, 2025, 12:59 pm • 0 0 • view
Wait until they see how much their pedo president and maga pedo nazi musk was on the island take from our government...
aug 26, 2025, 7:59 pm • 0 0 • view
Other than medical breakthroughs, useful products, creative thinking & ideas. Our achievements are all from R&D. And then some fat cat comes along and squashes that idea because they can’t make money of it or buys the idea and makes money off it. Without R&D, nothing happens except survival. Yay us
aug 26, 2025, 6:51 pm • 0 0 • view
The problem with Nutlick's comment is that what he's discussing is in no way related to why Trump is cutting funding to universities. The funding cuts are to punish universities with policies he doesn't like. It's a vendetta.
aug 26, 2025, 3:20 am • 1 0 • view
and the corporations they give taxpayer money to!
aug 26, 2025, 4:04 pm • 0 0 • view
If only the US government had a way of monetizing the profit generated by private individuals and companies for their innovations. Why didn’t anyone think about that before Nutlick? Oh. Wait. www.investopedia.com/terms/c/corp...
aug 26, 2025, 2:28 pm • 0 0 • view
The primary reason a university gets a patent is to continue research. It's illegal (w/o permission) to do research of a patented process. I've done research and part of our IP training included what we could/could not do. The patentholder can license whoever wants to use their patent w/wo fee.
aug 26, 2025, 9:25 pm • 0 0 • view
The thing is, they’re partially wrong. Major agencies have (had anyway) lawyers and technical experts who negotiate for the government to get royalties from patents that have been funded through research grants.
aug 26, 2025, 12:13 pm • 2 0 • view
Free Market means "free to rip people off on the market".
aug 26, 2025, 4:06 am • 1 0 • view
No, they are completely wrong. America's economic prosperity has been built on the research and technology we've invested over the long term, something that no corporation would be able or willing to do. And it has returned massive wealth to the US economy and federal government
aug 26, 2025, 2:38 am • 28 4 • view
Republicans are greedy toddlers. They will act that way 100% of the time, guaranteed.
aug 26, 2025, 1:07 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah, and partly nationalizing intel… wild
aug 26, 2025, 9:37 pm • 0 0 • view
Right. But theirs is the type of socialism that collapses economies, because you can’t have greedy, corrupt criminals in charge of it.
aug 26, 2025, 2:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Nutlick is an idiot.
aug 26, 2025, 8:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Every one of these fuckers are obsessed with getting their cut! They only care about money, period.
aug 26, 2025, 12:31 pm • 2 0 • view
This needs to be used by femocrats if we ever take government back. They can't call us socialists anymore.
aug 26, 2025, 12:35 pm • 1 0 • view
*Democrats
aug 26, 2025, 2:32 pm • 2 0 • view
I figured it was a typo, although I don’t see how a “femocracy” could possibly be worse than our current kakistocracy…
aug 26, 2025, 3:19 pm • 1 0 • view
That's hardly a ringing endorsement. How about: "What a refreshing idea! After all these millennia of men who insist that only men are fit to rule (as a majority if not exclusively), let's give the other 50% of the world's population a crack at providing leadership, & see how they do!"
aug 26, 2025, 7:58 pm • 2 0 • view
I’m down for it. I don’t see how we can get there with such levels of misogyny as we see in the US today, but it would be worth it.
aug 26, 2025, 8:47 pm • 2 0 • view
oh poor Nutlick you not making enough money off us poor folks? Go get a second job Nutlick, may cleaning old peoples butts at a nursing home. Leave the colleges and scientists alone. You sure are not doing any thing useful.
aug 26, 2025, 5:43 am • 0 0 • view
Who benefits from the research? That you get nothing back is a very unintelligent lie.
aug 26, 2025, 8:26 pm • 2 1 • view
Narrow minded asshole! Who do you think benefit when there is a scientific breakthrough discovery?? All of us including you moron!
aug 26, 2025, 2:22 am • 2 0 • view
He’s a moron. He has no idea how any of this works. Oh, and HOW ABOUT THAT INTERNET. Or the massive number of innovations that happened due to the US space program.
aug 26, 2025, 4:36 pm • 0 0 • view
Cell phones and wireless communication systems in general. LiPo and other batteries (especially batteries for extreme environments.) There are a lot of things.
aug 27, 2025, 6:24 am • 1 0 • view
It is quite staggering how quickly this party has abandoned individual responsibility. The government knows what it’s paying for, and the scientist is the one who actually comes up with the technology that gets patented. These assholes, just wanna make all the money, all they care about is money.
aug 26, 2025, 2:37 pm • 0 0 • view
In this case just as it is in the snap program changes still doesn’t help or represent the taxpayer, they will not see any of the money or benefits of said money.
aug 26, 2025, 5:53 pm • 0 0 • view
Sure Mumbles. Now go out and buy the building, equipment and staff to do the research. Funding research is just good sense, nothing you'd know about.
aug 26, 2025, 5:10 am • 3 0 • view
Each time I listen to these dumb mf'ers I always ask the question: How could these people attain such a high level of financial security as dumb as they are? Before this a-hole Trump was reelected I have never heard of these people. All of them must be crooked because they are dumb as f***.
aug 27, 2025, 2:01 am • 0 0 • view
We don't get "Nothing". We get internet, microwaves, cell phones, high end tech. Investing in R&D is always a long term win. Maybe the only real wins America has had since the 80's
aug 26, 2025, 12:35 pm • 0 0 • view
This is why Universities are so rich and Academics are so wealthy. Methinks the corporations get in on the act and keep everyone nice and poor and servile. How many patents does the average university scientist own?
aug 26, 2025, 12:33 pm • 0 0 • view
The biggest mistake these morons make, is looking at the society as a business -- just like Trumpty Dumbty. Universities' primary function is to provide higher education that benefits the society and do research in order to discover, create new science that benefits the society. That's all. Period.
aug 26, 2025, 7:35 am • 5 1 • view
Of course, the "Right" only thinks about "What's in it *ME*? What do *I* get from this?"
aug 26, 2025, 7:37 am • 1 1 • view
💯💯💯
aug 26, 2025, 7:44 am • 0 0 • view
We get nothing…except lifesaving medical procedures, scientific breakthroughs from international students under US auspices. You know, little things, like THE INTERNET, GPS, and mRNA VACCINES.
aug 26, 2025, 6:11 pm • 0 0 • view
Not anymore. There's clearly too many dumb people running the US for it to continue as anything more than a joke. You have to be living in a really crappy country in a really bad situation to want to go to the US. The American dream is almost dead.
aug 26, 2025, 6:21 pm • 0 0 • view
*sigh
aug 26, 2025, 6:23 pm • 1 0 • view
TRUMP IS CAUGHT! THE RIGGING IN TEXAS HAS SHOWN HIS LOSING HAND A RIGGER IS UNFIT TO BE PRESIDENT TRUMP DEMANDS ELECTIONS IN UKRAINE WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND THEM IN THE US FIRST AMERICA FIRST! WE DEMAND NEW ELECTIONS!
aug 26, 2025, 2:38 pm • 0 0 • view
We get access to the technology, not "nothing." 🙄 The problem here is the costs to consumers are too high. That's manufacturing and retailer profits, not just patent costs. If we fund the research as taxpayers, then we should get full benefits from related patents for our lifetimes. Reduced costs.
aug 26, 2025, 1:34 pm • 0 0 • view
They see governing as a money making venture. Not as the way a government is hired to do things the private sector cannot for the good of the citizens.
aug 26, 2025, 3:42 am • 1 0 • view
We get the medicines and cures. Those of us dying would rather have that.
aug 26, 2025, 6:00 am • 1 0 • view
Of course they are wrong. Saying that the taxpayers get nothing is beyond ridiculous.
aug 26, 2025, 2:25 am • 2 0 • view
And the hundreds of billions of dollars given to for-profit private corporations? Being the country's biggest welfare queen was actually Musk's ENTIRE business plan and it made him the richest man in the world. In comparison, we have literally gotten life saving treatments for cancer from the other.
aug 26, 2025, 4:21 am • 0 0 • view
funny how he is omitting the fact big pharma is the same huh
aug 26, 2025, 10:42 am • 0 0 • view
It is a little off putting when they aren't lying and have some what of a point.
aug 26, 2025, 3:55 am • 2 0 • view
yeah! 'cause the university of michigan, w/ federal grant money, didn't deserve to patent the polio vaccine formulated by jonas salk in their labs! that's like patenting the sun! now where's my walker and metal leg braces? i gotta go watch tv! (click click scroll click click click) ah. fox news...
aug 26, 2025, 6:15 pm • 1 0 • view
We don’t “get nothing” ! The internet started amongst researchers ffs
aug 27, 2025, 10:44 pm • 0 0 • view
Who does he think benefits from the research and new drugs and products? He's an idiot.
aug 26, 2025, 2:15 am • 17 0 • view
They SHOULDN'T get anything. They did NOTHING but provide money & they get the BENEFIT from the various research/patents. FFS. 🙄 Capitalism is god damn EVIL no matter the party you're talking about. NOTHING good comes from capitalism other than making ALREADY rich assholes richer.
aug 26, 2025, 9:08 pm • 0 0 • view
So what do these morons want coupons, gift cards or maybe what boxes of pharmaceuticals shipped to households 🙄
aug 27, 2025, 1:12 am • 0 0 • view
I feel like I do get something in return. I get to be healthy.
aug 26, 2025, 3:15 am • 0 0 • view
Ummm…no, that’s not accurate
aug 26, 2025, 6:41 am • 0 0 • view
Nothing? Anesthesia Human Kidney Transplant MRI Lyme Disease Discovery Cyclotron Technology & Computing 1st Automatic Digital Computer External Pace maker Baking Powder And the golf tee FFS. That's just Harvard, the U of CA holds the most patents. It's an investment for the people Nutlick.
aug 26, 2025, 5:26 pm • 5 1 • view
We get nothing? What we get is the benefits of what is created, the treatments, vaccines, technology, litterature, art, and knowledge that comes from the research done with that money. EVERYONE benefits when we fund education at all levels.
aug 26, 2025, 5:09 pm • 1 0 • view
The same people who screamed that price controls were unfair...... Come on!
aug 26, 2025, 1:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Lutnick is blowing smoke up the country's ass trying to justify fucking up the US' R&D pipeline A patent alone isn't worth much unless you make something of value out of it It's all about what happens what happens after the knowledge is gained MAGA GOP stupidity; the dumbing down of the USA
aug 26, 2025, 11:23 am • 0 0 • view