So Nigel Farage’s ‘new’ plan is in fact… Rishi Sunak’s old plan - which was exactly what caused the explosion in use of asylum hotels in the first place.
So Nigel Farage’s ‘new’ plan is in fact… Rishi Sunak’s old plan - which was exactly what caused the explosion in use of asylum hotels in the first place.
Farage is an utterly egregious twat spouting Populist piffle. The job of Journalists is to for once ask the twayhow this would work
Very few journalists in the UK at present. Plenty of stenographers, courtiers and unofficial mouthpieces however. If something someone says is reported without critique, then the reporter is not a journalist.
And your government will continue to help him into government with that plan by continuing to meekly dance to his tune and demonising asylum seekers in a slightly more polite tone.
This. Labour are just dancing to the Farage tune. Farage is setting the government policy. Labour are a nasty right wing party. Well done Starmer, well done McSweeney, two of the worst political operators in British history.
Fleabitten tail wagging our nation’s political dog - it’s appalling and intensely frustrating🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. An open goal for an assertive, both-barrels, progressive political response yet the welcome stuff that there is from the Lib Dems and Greens doesn’t get due dissemination by most of our craven MSM.
No, it’s to potentially send people to their deaths and I’m disappointed that your party is not being more vocal about this.
They are being vocal, it's just that all they've got to say is also racist.
Labour have amplified the reform populist message, lost swathes of voters, and now they try and blackmail people with “it’s us or reform”. That’s a losing strategy and it’s morally reprehensible, typical Labour.
Amen.
Which is why it’s odd Torsten here is gaslighting us. His own party is doing Reform’s job for them. Throwing goal after goal into their own net. McSweeneyism, toxic toxic stuff
Will you say that when your hate of Labour let's Farage into Number 10? Farage has already said he dose NOT want the NHS funding by our Tax.
What's the difference by this point? Starmer is warming his seat
You think Startmer is a racist, how about that racist Leave vote from Wakes, the same Wales that then realised they got millions of pounds funding from the EU and are still crying over having voted all that away.
This looks like a Labour propaganda account. Ignore this account and block. The “it’s us or Farage” line doesn’t work. Labour are actively campaigning for and amplifying the reform message, in turn losing votes and validating reform. Labour push disabled into poverty and demonise migrants. Awful.
I wonder why, Diane Abbott will not go over to Corbyn, odd that one. Read the National Scots to find the answer.
A quick look on you home page and I see you are advertising that ReformUK are in the lead, I wonder why??!! Reposted by Eff Eff See Election Maps UK @electionmaps.uk · 9d
Because they are, because Starmer is so shit.
Such an intelligent reply, can you do that in Leave the EU Welsh for me please?
This is an account of an elderly British woman who has watched Labour get the blame for the mess the Tories/Lib Dems cause for years and years I have also watch the rise of the Far Right ReformUK who are an insult to every person who fought the Nazi's in WW2 & I do not care if you like what I say.
You're fine with fascism when Labour does it though, hypocrite
Go read some History and the learn the difference between Fascism and Conservatism, Communism and Socialism. Then go and wobble your head because the first response I get them you is an absolute insult. Not the higher level of intellectual debate I am used to on here.
Who is the 'your party' you are talking about?
If you want to stop Farage getting away with lying all the time, try regulating the press. It would be helpful if they couldn’t print “Politician X says the sky is green” without pointing out that Politician X was obviously lying.
And printing Lies vs Truth without saying which is which isn’t balance. It’s propagating lies and casting doubt on the truth. They know what they’re doing and they won’t stop without a real regulator to force them.
Any opposition MP losing their shit, commenting on (or accepting) his wild immigration policies is a win for Farage. Someone needs to change the narrative on Reform.
He'll be squid inking ridiculous immigration policies for the next 3 years. As long as we (left & right) focus on that and not his true motives - billionaire funded asset stripping, big oil, private healthcare, ECHR leaving bonfire of workers rights...he's in. Immigrants are the trojan horse.
Has Labour considered not fuelling this by being so openly racist, and do something to improve people's material conditions instead?
Just with more flags, probably
Fraudrage enjoys a riot at this time of the year. Vile debased Cnut that he is.
Thank you Torsten!
But he wants all this fuss and bother so that he can stir up social disharmony and get loads of publicity. You need to call him out for undermining democracy for trying to stir up racial hatred and encouraging riots. Call him out for his malign agenda otherwise he will keep doing it.
Yes - the thing that has really held this country back for coming up to a decade now is very stupid and simple answers (the are obviously wrong and often self harming) for complex problems
Oh you should just build Concentration Camps like they do in the USA. Your popularity among the assholes in your country will grow by leaps and bounds! I am so embarrassed to have so much British🩸though 🇨🇦 since the 1700s. KETCHUP
Labour are populist. Pushing disabled into poverty and demonising migrants, disgusting. Labour have failed to change the narrative. McSweeney is a useless fool and Labour are evil, evil losers.
Classic—repackaging the same failed policy and pretending it’s new. No wonder the asylum hotel issue keeps spiraling.
And that's exactly why he's doing it now. Then he can get all outraged again and more flags go up.
You were not expecting our Nige to come up with an original ‘new’ plan, I hope. The man has never had an original new idea ever before
Mm, when did the small boat thing take off? A Tory creation of 2016 I seem to remember.
Theresa May had also turned Calais into a fortress so people couldn't break in to Lorries which was their previous Modus Operandi.
Jenrick started the hotel contracts in 2019. He gave 10yr contracts to his pals. After covid in 2022, Jenrick ramped up the contracts to his mates.
Yes, no such thing as 'small boats' when we were IN the EU, but try telling the Farage/Leave voting Farts that.
Absolutely a consequence of Brexit.
It’s so much worse than that. He’s talking about sending people to certain death. Surely we can do better than vote for hatred?
Might be useful to point out some of these hotels were virtually shut down after Covid. Jenrick feathered his mates pockets by using the hotels and giving them contracts until 2029.
Jenrick is a conman.
All the Tories and ReformUK Politicans are Con Men/Women.
No what caused the explosion was Brexit - which you & @uklabour.bsky.social are ignoring like cowards. Ushering in PM Nige will be the party’s epitaph
Farage has no ideas of his own. He just stoked division and fear and latches on to any policy others have developed to make it look as if he actually has any policies.
The media will love it the presenter on @lbc.co.uk was beside himself just now, fawning all over Farage’s plan and shouting at anyone who disagreed.
Well said: just as Labour's new plan is David Cameron's old plan.
Like the Brexit implementation, the tory plan just wasn’t done right the first time….according to Farridge.
Stop challenging the rhetoric with facts, Torsten 🤪
Yeah but he’s a man of the people, innit.
Until Reform have a written plan / policy for 'asylum', then Farage has no plan. Can he add something on the 'hotel' or centre near Cardiff airport mooted for protest rally, which he endorses, that those in it have Indefinite Leave To Remain, and call off the protestors.
To his supporters that doesn't matter. They are brown so they need to be demonised.
There should be counter shouting as well as counter protesting. When a Reform supporter turned up on my doorstep, my response was laced with loathe. I'm their demographic and totter to the door! Case of mistaken identity. The audacity of him! Left with tail between legs from my very loud voice.
No point giving proper arguments. Slogans / soundbites suffice between one and three words.
The British public don’t do critical thinking and Farage knows it.
Most of the British public don't .... etc.
Tice and Farage are fighting for the working class in exactly the same way that American millionaires and billionaires are. This is Reform all over.
Unfortunately I fear that’s exactly what so many have.
He's a trumper......
Borrowing this, but I have left a Follow as payment.
By all means feel free. I too borrowed it. If it helps some sheep wake up, then it's worth every pixel!
Please please PLEASE argue as hard as you can inside government to give that grifting prick both barrels & call out his utter lack of actual solutions.
I've just remembered... Labour are behaving like the Democrats are in America and yet, Labour are actually in power! Never before has a government been so cowed by the right wing press. One might get the impression that they're happy to have that as an excuse to be shit?
He's not going to do that and they wouldn't listen if he did.
It's a Nigel Farage thing, he is as thick as 2 short planks.
THAT'S the issue with what he's proposing?
Far right's goal is never to solve a problem, perceived or otherwise. On the contrary: problems cause anger with the underbelly-people that they can steer in a (for them) desirable direction. And while everybody is continually distracted they execute their agenda.
Why is a key Labour advisor regularly talking to Steve Bannon? Why was Glasman in a position to be introduced to Bannon by Farage? Abhorrent anti migrant rhetoric is being pushed by a Labour government. However, with friends like Bannon, I can understand why... bsky.app/profile/lizw...
So why aren't you making the case for safe routes and explaining to the public why the UK economy and public services needs immigrants?
They both got it from the same person who told them what to say. And if you dig underneath the politics of Rwanda, you will see how it all joins up
There’s a reason today’s would be Tory populist plonkers were boasting back then about opening asylum hotel after asylum hotel
You folks need to get your heads out of your arses and start getting on the offensive. This is a pathetic attempt at government so far. I’m fairly sure people didn’t vote in a Tory light to continue the attacks on immigrants. Scared to death of Farage, the press and taxing the rich.
I'm fairly sure that people voted in a Labour government to get control of immigration of all kinds and reduce the need for and use of asylum hotels, which seems to be what they are doing.
Labour's next poster - "Nigel Farage wants to make deals with the Taliban.."
To be fair to Jenrick (yes why not) he was dealing with the Manston fiasco. First question is where do you house those who are here, then get on with processing with fairness and compassion.
But never did the last bit
Yet to be convinced that Labour will either, but will give them a bit longer.
But they are people being sorted quickly and either passed or failed, issue this year is just damn perfect weather
Hey, don’t forget your alt text 😀
Who is making money from this?
Nigel Farage, usually.
The people that created this problem are not going to get away with rewriting history.
But they are
Glad to hear it but I'll be screenshotting this post just in case, against all the odds, it becomes applicable elsewhere 😁
Why hasn't the government got a more pro active comms in countering this stuff. As labour member i getting really pissed off how incompetent they are at basic stuff, how can we defend if the government isn't. They have also seemed to lost there moral core on this.
Well said. I’m growing more & more concerned as the Govt seem to be doing absolutely nothing to counteract the media’s daily obsession with reporting every utterance from Farage. IMO this could lead us to a very dark place, something I never thought I would ever feel about the UK.
You you exactly the same as them.
The people who want to exploit this "problem" (and some of them are the same as those who created it) are being given free rein by the media, and your government is amplifying their language about the "problem" while working to solve only parts of it.
How is the government countering this perversion of the truth? It seems to be intimidated by inflammatory rhetoric.
Unfortunately they stand a good chance of doing so, UK media will happily assist
I really hope not. The hatred is appalling.
They are getting away with Brexit.
I wouldn't bet on that, sadly.
And Nigel Farage isn’t going to get away with pretending he has an answer by calling for a repeat of the Tory chaos, with added performative cruelty about returning people to Afghanistan on top.
He is
The problem is the media. They are the ones pushing the message.
He is getting away with it and has been doing so for over a decade. Starmer should be on the BBC every night explaining how wealth inequality and not immigration is wrecking this country and how he will deal with this with progressive taxation, capping utility bills and scrapping right to buy.
Absolutely agree 100% 👍
Please also note Farage's plans to remove UK citizens' human rights ...
Any chance of joining the AMMR? Would seem like a smart move.
Torsten can you keep posting anti Farage posts on thus site and encourage other Labour MPs to do similar. Folks on here (and not on the hellsite) seem to think Labour MPs are lying doggo, when they are doing the opposite.
Perhaps you should stop agreeing with his followers ‘legitimate concerns’.
We’re all sick and tired of people tiptoeing around him, media and Labour Party included. He needs to be politically destroyed and the terms of the whole debate need to be changed before we end up somewhere very dark indeed.
What does political destruction look like for Farage? The Brexit aftermath didn't do it. I mean, by comparison Trump should have been annihilated by now politically, but no, he's still rolling, and Farage hasn't plumbed those depths yet.
Anyone who believes Nazzi Farrightidge is the solution is a big part of the problem.
Except he is. Unless you all finally grow some balls, and go on the offensive. Every one of you should be absolutely savaging him over his lies, and demonstrably stupid policies—not least of which Brexshit—at every available media opportunity.
Labour need stronger communication about this (& all other) subjects. The media are irresponsibly amplifying negative & dangerously divisive attitudes, so the govt need to be *much* more vocal. Labour comms was impressive in the run up to the election. It's been absolutely dire since 🤷♀️.
And what the hell is our govt still doing on X ?!
I suspect he is. Our leadership and media don’t seem keen on calling him Out on it
He may well with our fawning national press and broadcaster’s level of scrutiny
Starmer needs to call him out. Most folk don’t know who you are.
Yes. Yes they are.
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Nigel Farage and the Brexiteers are the cause of this problem and it should be shouted from the rooftops that it would never have happened without Brexit.
I feel if I get ask if am proud to british or anti racist who support gaza. I will be forced to choose to choose one, I don't like it. Can't we proud to be british and be anti racist,also support palestine. I find all of it unsettling to think about.
But with added black shirts & jackboots
Ignore him. That's the secret. His toys will then be despatched forthwith.
The hypocrisy from you is astounding Labour are fanning the flames of the far right thugs with your disgusting rhetoric Shameful
No really Labour is not. But, at the rate it is going Farage of the 'I don't want the NHS funded by Tax fame' will get into Number 10 next time. I really hope all those who helped him get their either deliberately or naively can afford medical insurance for themselves and theirs.
Recycling Sunak’s failed approach shows Farage has no real solutions, just the same broken policies that made the asylum system worse to begin with.