The Pentagon is reportedly planning to send troops to Chicago. How will Americans respond to military occupation of their cities? I’m not much a fan of the second amendment, but my impression is that it was written with this scenario in mind.
The Pentagon is reportedly planning to send troops to Chicago. How will Americans respond to military occupation of their cities? I’m not much a fan of the second amendment, but my impression is that it was written with this scenario in mind.
Nonviolent direct action is the only option. Let them take over cities unopposed, and they'll be preventing voters from voting in midterms. Oppose their lethal force with lethal force, they can escalate and bomb buildings, and prevent voting.
Exactly what a red state pussy would say
I think they're looking for a pretext to shoot, detain, imprison, deport lots of blue city voters, and are ecstatic about the possibility that a lot of these will be people of color. If you disagree, that's fine.
Ya sure.
You’re absolutely correct. That’s what they WANT. Pritzker is much more intelligent than Trump. I trust him to figure out something. Why would ANY city want an occupying FORCE?
Non-violent direct action is what got you here in the first place. Please tell me the name of the dictator who stepped down willingly.
I'm just echoing Gandhi, MLK and our whole civil rights movement. I would argue it's been our INACTION over the past few decades that got us here. Pardoning Nixon, the failure to prosecute GWB era war criminals, the ABSOLUTE failure of Merrick Garland, that got us here. Sure, you could buy an...
...AR, take out a few masked ICE agents, but the blowback will be 100X as deadly.
From my perspective, the ice thugs back off when confronted, but I believe that some type of armed civil rebellion will be needed to retain democracy. People can only be pushed so far before they act. Where are the military leaders as you hear nothing from them. Have they all capitulated.
Nonviolent resistance in the civil rights era was quietly backed by the very real threat of armed self-defense, but history likes to forget that
Ghandhi and MLK were both shot.
And John Lewis and others were beaten many times. That doesn't mean their methods failed.
This is literally what it was intended for.
Ironically, it was the Right that was all worried about the government taking our freedom away and in the end it's them...😡
They want to start an uprising to use as an excuse to declare martial law
It was written to ensure white land owners would have death squads on hand to murder indigenous people and enslaved people. It sucks and you shouldn't hang your entire idea of what rights you do and do not have on it.
The 2nd Amendment has been totally abused, lied about by the maga. They are well armed and will follow the maga commands. Agree that those not vile might want to consider self protection if this invasion does spread.
This is a pre lude scenario of a Dictatorship
Blue Staters should start looking into taking gun lessons and shooting practice bc Trump's not planning on leaving ...
Amen brother
First of all: no it wasn't. Second of all: It's not a matter of what the PEOPLE think. We've wanted the boots off our necks for 20+ years but layers of municipal/state/federal governments keep telling us to lie down and take it. If one of those layers turns, THAT will change the game.
But if local government just rolls over and licks the boot like they always do, then that's that. Unless a parallel revolutionary government capable of organizing large scale resistance has already formed in secret, there won't BE any organized resistance.
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See, the problem with this idea is that it's STILL predicated in the assumption that Trump will mostly operate within the confines of The Law. This assumption is a VERY bad one since he's just spent the last year proving to everyone's satisfaction that the courts cannot and will not stop him.
"We won't cooperate with federal authorities" becomes a more quaint notion when those authorities are a platoon of US Marines with orders to arrest your governor. No matter how good your lawyers are, you will never write a legal brief thick enough to stop a bullet.
Correction- Pete Kegsbreath is, and " the Pentagon " has to follow orders or they get fired. It's not unlawful orders....yet.
If you are US-based in your work, then you surely know that Trump is Commander-in-Chief of the US Military. Suggesting that the 2A will protect anyone & is a logical & rational response to his aggression while he also controls the FBI, DOJ & SCOTUS is irresponsible.
Fight!!!!!
That's a complex and concerning situation. The American response to military presence in cities could vary widely, depending on the circumstances and public perception. The Second Amendment was indeed written in a different era, but its relevance and interpretation in modern times are often debated.
He wants to declare martial law by forcing people to confront them. We could IGNORE THEM. That would piss him off or give them all flowers like back in the 60s. 🤷🏼♀️
You could hand them all a copy of a typed statement to the District Court stating they violated their oath to the Constitution. Similar to this one I wrote. 🤷🏼♀️
Amen.
You'd better get to being a fan of the 2nd amendment pretty quickly.
If they go to Chicago, I believe thousands and thousands of protesters will show up. If they send troops from the South, this isn't LA; they won't want to be outside during the Chicago winter. Trump's health is deteriorating, so it will be interesting to see how soon this plays out if at all.
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So odd that the NRA types bitchily predicted Obama and others would do this exact thing and that was why everyone needed a gun. When the shooting starts, which side will they be on? Also, Fuck the NRA.
If they do, Illinois should redraw their maps.
Unfortunately, that is what Trump is aiming for (no pun intended). He WANTS violence so that he can declare martial law and cancel midterms. And I'm being even more serious when I point out the fact that one of the first things ALL dictators do is to outlaw guns, so take a minute to think about it.
The "President of no wars" is occupying his own country. How are grocery prices in America? Is gas below $2 per gallon? How much did doge save? How much is his golf costing America? Is America great again? Has he released the Epstein files? Is he just full of shit?
yep.. for sure.. 🥺🥺
Yes it was.
But the wannabe fascists have most of the guns: 41% of Republicans own guns, 36% of Independents own guns, 16% of Democrats own guns. www.pewresearch.org/social-trend...
Its time for the NRA to stand up to this oppression. Or so they've always claimed. Bueller? Bueller?
We overpower them in numbers.
Roving mobs of masked thugs without badges or warrants are gangs and should be treated as such.
They already have from what I saw on tik tok early this morning. Coloreds were ones posting videos and very happy about it.
I’m an old man, I do understand what is an armed revolution, had lived trough one!it is traumatic to see civilians killed on the streets, but I see very little reason NOT to prepare for this terrible reality! #fucktrump
Yeah, no. Nobody wins in this scenario.
Time to take advantage of this. Cities are having budget troubles due to police costs. Let the guardsmen police the streets. Then the cities can cut police overtime, supplying cops outside Wrigley Field/soldiers field, etc..time to turn the tables and let trump pay the policing costs.
Before getting the 2nd amendment involved, hand out cards to all the soldiers with the hotline for dealing with illegal orders and a description of the Posse Comitatus Act.
Well, that and keeping slaves down. Anyway, the fantasy is just that. I don't care how much weaponry Bubba has stashed in his basement. They could turn everything into a bloody mess of course, but to what end? Feds have much, much bigger weapons.
Just let them roll on in. Don't go to work. Don't go to restaurants, bars, takeaway food joints. Nothing. Shut commerce down. Let them wander the streets pointlessly. Maybe put up signs asking " why exactly are you here?"--- or " it is your duty to disobey unlawful orders!" Or, "what disturbance?"
Yes, it's what trump wants so he can claim martial law. But it's probably coming to this sooner or later. And we'll have to hope our military remembers they serve the Constitution, not trump
How would this order be legal?
In an authoritarian gov legal is what they tell you it is.
I'm still holding out that our military will follow their oath and not a tyrant
Trump’s little piggy eyes lit up when Zelensky said you can’t hold an election during a war. He should’ve said while missiles are raining down and you can’t ensure safety.
We don't have that clause written in the constitution or the bill of rights. We held elections during every conflict this country has been in since its founding.
Most US wars have not made it unsafe to campaign or vote. Britain still appended elections during WW II because it wasn’t safe. Suspending elections e.g. during Vietnam wouldn’t have been justifiable for a reason like that.
We NEED french protest tactics. Working together. Trash collectors, teachers, postal workers, government workers,etc. Walking off jobs, not showing up, blocking streets with garbage trucks. My BIGGEST suggestion is protesters need to sit down, like on the ground. It ruins "rioting" narratives.
2/2 forcing them to be recorded and photographed assaulting sitting people is an option they can't afford to take. It will be met with huge amounts of ridicule and public outrage.
Well, all the second amendment absolutists are waiting for the real tyranny tyranny to hit the fan, not this imitation tyranny.
That is my interpretation as well. To stand up against a corrupt government
The 2A folks are the ones doing this.
I'm guessing the reaction will be a lot like LA's.
Then maybe you should become a fan. And quickly.
What? There is no act of war or threat to our country Please explain. The 2nd amendment is one of the shortest amendments that addresses 2 issues Guns & a milita
Well, it was only a matter of time now the bigger question will be will they fire on the American people? Will they kill their own families, brothers and sisters cousin aunts and uncles because Donald Trump told them too?
Well, that’s the question. I think we’ve already got an answer to that really.