I mean, if you think hundreds of dollars per month is cheap, that's good for you but it's not exactly friendly compared to most Fediverse instances I know.
I mean, if you think hundreds of dollars per month is cheap, that's good for you but it's not exactly friendly compared to most Fediverse instances I know.
I also wanna say that when I ran a Mastodon instance a while back, between storage & resource usage needing upgrades over time as I federated with more instances, that thing got close to costing me £100/mo., which is also not cheap, so fedi as the comparison doesn't work either.
Yes, to keep a Mastodon instance cheap over the long-term it becomes a severely compromised experience.
People have run entire relays on Raspberry Pis, it all depends on how much data is being pumped through it and how many things are consuming it.
the amount of data is irrelevant unless the network 100xes in size — copying bytes between websocket streams really isn't compute intensive at all
your information is out of date, relays are an order of magnitude cheaper now whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net...
so I restate my question: would that be sufficient for you?
Привет Сэм! Ты почему забросил разработку Graysky?
I don’t have time for it anymore :(
Очень жаль😭
ATProtoFacts.bluesky.bot when? !update Returns costs to maintain sovereign digital identity
If that's how cheap full relays are now, I withdraw my objection. I hadn't seen an estimate that low before.
yep! It’s due to the new Sync 1.1 mechanism - rather than needing a full copy of all data ever to validate data as it passes through, relays can now simply hold the previous commit of each repo to calculate if the new one is valid. this brings the cost down massively to raspberry pi levels
This is tempting me to set up a PDS here in the UK.
having a PDS close to you lowers latency, allowing you to post faster :)
This is why I always carry wearable PDS on me at all times. I experience a sub 1 millisecond latency for all requests because my data is on my person.
don’t tell this to jerry
Makes me happy to see ATProtocol getting better over time!
Oh this is what I’m going to use some of my €500 free @upcloud.com credits on this month 😛
iirc someone ran it for $20usd/mo which is v v cheap for core network infra imo
I took the estimate from here. If you want to participate, you need a relay that mirrors a pretty big network in real time. A small local thing that doesn't pay attention to Bluesky's content would be cheaper but not terribly useful. atproto.wiki/en/wiki/refe...
these relays are full network bsky.app/profile/bad-... that wiki page needs to be updated, a relay could be run on a pi if someone wanted to whtwnd.com/futur.blue/3...
more here bsky.app/profile/bad-...
yup! and i need to write an update post! that thread ^^ had a lot of struggles from trying to run on an under-sized instance from a provider that heavily applied CPU throttling after a threshold (which wasn’t immediately apparent to me!)
concretely and more recently: my EU relay (France) on an OVH box has been just cool as a cucumber, for about $20.50 USD/mo full network, lots of overhead for network and subscriber growth still. new montreal instance is now bigger and costs a bit under 30 from a local provider