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James Endicott @o76923.bsky.social

I mean, if you think hundreds of dollars per month is cheap, that's good for you but it's not exactly friendly compared to most Fediverse instances I know.

aug 23, 2025, 11:06 am • 0 0

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Hayden~ @hayden.moe

I also wanna say that when I ran a Mastodon instance a while back, between storage & resource usage needing upgrades over time as I federated with more instances, that thing got close to costing me £100/mo., which is also not cheap, so fedi as the comparison doesn't work either.

aug 23, 2025, 11:27 am • 14 0 • view
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hybrid havoc @hybridhavoc.com

Yes, to keep a Mastodon instance cheap over the long-term it becomes a severely compromised experience.

aug 23, 2025, 10:57 pm • 0 0 • view
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Hayden~ @hayden.moe

People have run entire relays on Raspberry Pis, it all depends on how much data is being pumped through it and how many things are consuming it.

aug 23, 2025, 11:19 am • 9 0 • view
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futur @futur.blue

the amount of data is irrelevant unless the network 100xes in size — copying bytes between websocket streams really isn't compute intensive at all

aug 23, 2025, 2:02 pm • 8 0 • view
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Samuel @samuel.bsky.team

your information is out of date, relays are an order of magnitude cheaper now whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net...

aug 23, 2025, 11:29 am • 96 8 • view
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Samuel @samuel.bsky.team

so I restate my question: would that be sufficient for you?

aug 23, 2025, 11:38 am • 24 0 • view
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Аgеnt #1З @agent13.bsky.social

Привет Сэм! Ты почему забросил разработку Graysky?

aug 23, 2025, 11:41 am • 2 0 • view
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Samuel @samuel.bsky.team

I don’t have time for it anymore :(

aug 23, 2025, 11:48 am • 14 0 • view
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Аgеnt #1З @agent13.bsky.social

Очень жаль😭

aug 23, 2025, 11:50 am • 1 0 • view
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(ᴘ)ᴀᴛ://ʀɪᴄᴋ @alt.psingletary.com

ATProtoFacts.bluesky.bot when? !update Returns costs to maintain sovereign digital identity

aug 23, 2025, 12:16 pm • 1 0 • view
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James Endicott @o76923.bsky.social

If that's how cheap full relays are now, I withdraw my objection. I hadn't seen an estimate that low before.

aug 23, 2025, 11:05 pm • 12 0 • view
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Samuel @samuel.bsky.team

yep! It’s due to the new Sync 1.1 mechanism - rather than needing a full copy of all data ever to validate data as it passes through, relays can now simply hold the previous commit of each repo to calculate if the new one is valid. this brings the cost down massively to raspberry pi levels

aug 24, 2025, 7:47 am • 23 0 • view
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GymTrainer:Matt @scribbleposts.uk

This is tempting me to set up a PDS here in the UK.

aug 24, 2025, 7:51 am • 5 0 • view
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Samuel @samuel.bsky.team

having a PDS close to you lowers latency, allowing you to post faster :)

aug 24, 2025, 10:18 am • 15 0 • view
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Luke 🏳️‍🌈✈️ @lukeacl.com

This is why I always carry wearable PDS on me at all times. I experience a sub 1 millisecond latency for all requests because my data is on my person.

aug 24, 2025, 10:25 am • 6 0 • view
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Jacob Stordahl 🏳️‍🌈 @stordahl.dev

don’t tell this to jerry

aug 24, 2025, 12:15 pm • 4 0 • view
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Fābersôl @fabersol.bsky.social

Makes me happy to see ATProtocol getting better over time!

aug 23, 2025, 11:37 am • 1 0 • view
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Will @willdot.net

Oh this is what I’m going to use some of my €500 free @upcloud.com credits on this month 😛

aug 23, 2025, 7:36 pm • 6 0 • view
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🪤🏳️‍⚧️ @vielle.dev

iirc someone ran it for $20usd/mo which is v v cheap for core network infra imo

aug 23, 2025, 11:26 am • 4 0 • view
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James Endicott @o76923.bsky.social

I took the estimate from here. If you want to participate, you need a relay that mirrors a pretty big network in real time. A small local thing that doesn't pay attention to Bluesky's content would be cheaper but not terribly useful. atproto.wiki/en/wiki/refe...

aug 23, 2025, 11:02 pm • 0 0 • view
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Dane @dane.is.extraordinarily.cool

these relays are full network bsky.app/profile/bad-... that wiki page needs to be updated, a relay could be run on a pi if someone wanted to whtwnd.com/futur.blue/3...

aug 23, 2025, 11:16 pm • 1 0 • view
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Dane @dane.is.extraordinarily.cool

more here bsky.app/profile/bad-...

aug 23, 2025, 11:16 pm • 0 0 • view
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phil @bad-example.com

yup! and i need to write an update post! that thread ^^ had a lot of struggles from trying to run on an under-sized instance from a provider that heavily applied CPU throttling after a threshold (which wasn’t immediately apparent to me!)

aug 24, 2025, 12:47 am • 1 0 • view
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phil @bad-example.com

concretely and more recently: my EU relay (France) on an OVH box has been just cool as a cucumber, for about $20.50 USD/mo full network, lots of overhead for network and subscriber growth still. new montreal instance is now bigger and costs a bit under 30 from a local provider

aug 24, 2025, 12:50 am • 4 0 • view