they will run into the exact same problem Solo did - it is functionally impossible to recreate the charisma of peak Harrison Ford and whoever they cast is doomed to failure no matter how talented they are
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yeah this is the thing it’s not that there aren’t other great and charismatic actors out there (though Ford ranks very high on the all time list) - it’s that Ford’s charisma has this particular “what am I doing here” quality that I haven’t seen anyone else come close to replicating
jul 2, 2025, 4:43 pm • 728 35 • view
“I don’t know… I’m making this up as I go.”
jul 3, 2025, 10:00 am • 1 0 • view
Not just "not replicating" but actively selected against. If Ford was a new actor today studios would say he's unapproachable and too distant. Everything for a broad audience needs to be painfully obvious and all thoughts or feelings need to be explicitly text.
jul 2, 2025, 4:59 pm • 1 0 • view
It’s my time
jul 2, 2025, 4:44 pm • 2 0 • view
We’re never again going to see someone go from rugged handyman to Hollywood leading man in such short order. “I don’t need this, I can go back to making stuff with my hands.” Not believable coming from Austin Butler, Timothee Chalamet, etc.
jul 2, 2025, 5:38 pm • 4 0 • view
Chris Pine is another in this category I think. He wields it well. If he hadn’t been the new Kirk, I’d say he should go to the top of the list.
jul 2, 2025, 8:48 pm • 2 0 • view
You nailed it. The utter frustration on his face when he shoots the swordsman (and yes, I know the backstory.)
jul 3, 2025, 6:35 am • 1 0 • view
And the only person who was ever able to do it is gone (River Phoenix.)
jul 2, 2025, 5:02 pm • 1 0 • view
Michael Bateman comes to mind, though perhaps not one to carry an action movie.
jul 2, 2025, 7:17 pm • 0 0 • view
The thing people miss with these reboots and remakes is that it isn't (wholly) the character that people care about, it's the actor bringing the character to life. If Tom Selleck had played Indy instead it would have likely been a good, fun movie but not an iconic one.
jul 2, 2025, 4:46 pm • 7 0 • view
I love how he has evolved into one of the crankiest people alive.
jul 2, 2025, 4:46 pm • 5 0 • view
I had such a crush on Ford, I married my own grumpy with a heart of gold.
jul 2, 2025, 8:50 pm • 3 0 • view
There's no way the first Star Wars was as beloved as it was without Ford and Fisher (and for that matter Alec Guinness) looking like they're too good for all this bullshit.
jul 3, 2025, 7:02 am • 0 0 • view
I rewatched Superman Returns last night and it has exactly this problem. Routh is a good actor, but he's trying to play Christopher Reeves playing Clark Kent/Superman and you're just never going to be able to perfectly replicate that.
jul 2, 2025, 9:33 pm • 1 0 • view
Movies are too clean nowadays. Indy can put on a suit to teach class, but on the field et dresses like a slob, doesn’t look like he bathes often, stumbles his way through situations, gets his ass kick often, and is effectively a tomb robber. He’s not clean cut.
jul 2, 2025, 9:31 pm • 0 0 • view
Tom Cruise in the later Mission: Impossible movies. For as much as the other characters glaze him as being this unstoppable superspy, he always has the "how the fuck did I get here" look before he does something crazy.
jul 3, 2025, 3:58 pm • 0 0 • view
ford has an edge, an "i could be a real fuckin' piece of shit at any point if I choose to do so" vibe (which, um, may not be entirely acting). but all we've got these days is a stable of cuddly chris-type-guys.
jul 2, 2025, 6:12 pm • 1 0 • view
Chris Pratt post GOTG and before Jurassic World could have done it.
jul 2, 2025, 9:32 pm • 0 0 • view
“what am I doing here” exactly describes him doing the rounds promoting his movies.
jul 2, 2025, 5:10 pm • 3 0 • view
He's too old for it now, but hear me out: Ben Browder
jul 2, 2025, 9:31 pm • 27 0 • view
God yes. Just recently researched Farscape and feel like everyone needs to see it, even though it's older and just never got the recognition it deserved
jul 2, 2025, 9:35 pm • 7 0 • view
*rewatched. What a weird autocorrect
jul 2, 2025, 9:43 pm • 1 0 • view
Also (again too old) Tom Hanks could have. I bet there are a shitton of actresses who could, though. Kate McKinnon (sp?) would be perfect.
jul 3, 2025, 6:38 am • 3 0 • view
I loved her in Ghostbusters so much
jul 4, 2025, 4:47 am • 1 0 • view
Brendan Fraser, same problem, but the man has "nor sure how this is his life now but gamely going for it" absolutely nailed down.
jul 4, 2025, 6:09 am • 0 0 • view
Oh never mind that got covered while I was in spreadsheet hell.
jul 4, 2025, 6:15 am • 0 0 • view
The only good Crichton
jul 2, 2025, 9:33 pm • 2 0 • view
... Ben Browder would be perfect for the tv series version I described...
jul 2, 2025, 9:32 pm • 7 0 • view
(And Claudia Black could play one of the increasingly-angry committee members.)
jul 2, 2025, 9:40 pm • 8 0 • view
okay true. hard to get more 'what am I doing here' than John Crichton
jul 2, 2025, 11:19 pm • 4 0 • view
(an astronaut)
jul 2, 2025, 11:19 pm • 2 0 • view
Both Indy and Han Solo swing wildly between "very competent at a specific skill" and "flailing muppet", and therein lies their charisma. Any attempt at a reboot will just try to make them all cool all the time.
jul 2, 2025, 10:01 pm • 3 0 • view
The recent video game got Indy very right, however. He's largely outmatched in a fistfight and gets his arse handed to him several times, he's chronically incapable of expressing *or* hiding his emotions, he freezes up around a lady's pet snake, and he's generally just kind of a dweeb.
jul 2, 2025, 11:13 pm • 0 0 • view
It's gonna be Glen Powell let's face it
jul 2, 2025, 4:47 pm • 4 0 • view
Glen Powell is such a weird looking dude
jul 2, 2025, 5:15 pm • 1 0 • view
jul 2, 2025, 6:57 pm • 2 0 • view
Its like someone removed a quarter inch from the middle of his face
jul 2, 2025, 6:59 pm • 2 0 • view
Reckon Brendan Gleeson could manage it...
jul 2, 2025, 4:47 pm • 3 0 • view
I think Ryan gosling could accomplish that particular part, but people seem sorta tired of him and also, I do think his version would end up invested
jul 3, 2025, 6:28 am • 2 0 • view
That's kind of the vibes of his character in The Fall Guy Reluctantly dragged into action, kind of clunky, but REALLY good at his job when applying himself
jul 3, 2025, 6:59 am • 2 0 • view
Gosling would do a fine job, but in a role like this I think it’d feel like he was always winking at the camera
jul 3, 2025, 6:58 am • 1 0 • view
There's a younger actor who could probably do this pretty great and he's cancelled as hell
jul 2, 2025, 7:19 pm • 0 0 • view
Armie Hammer?
jul 3, 2025, 9:56 am • 0 0 • view
That's honestly not bad, but I was thinking of Ansel Elgort.
jul 3, 2025, 9:58 am • 0 0 • view
I think he has many of the qualities but maybe more of a barely-tolerating-these-fools instead of what-am-I-doing-here?
jul 3, 2025, 1:32 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah don’t try to redo Indiana Jones, people
jul 2, 2025, 4:45 pm • 6 0 • view
And it’s so tied to that particular character now.
jul 2, 2025, 11:09 pm • 0 0 • view
not that he'd be good for this, but robert pattinson has some of that
jul 2, 2025, 5:20 pm • 21 0 • view
I feel like this is partly why he makes a good Batman/Bruce Wayne. He nails the discomfort of Bruce in his own skin and the terror of someone doing Batman stuff.
jul 2, 2025, 5:21 pm • 9 0 • view
He had the courage to make Batman a weirdo freak (laudatory) Also absolute legend for telling the studio “nah” when they wanted him to get juiced the role
jul 2, 2025, 7:18 pm • 11 0 • view
That GQ profile where he’s clearly just going insane in his apartment during COVID is a classic
jul 2, 2025, 7:19 pm • 6 0 • view
I grew up with the actor who played young Indiana in the Young Indy show they made in the late 90s. In real life, he definitely had that Indy asshole charisma, but the show still flopped because he wasn’t Ford. No one is.
jul 3, 2025, 1:17 pm • 0 0 • view
That's it right there, a great description
jul 2, 2025, 4:50 pm • 2 0 • view
I never identified that specific quality and deeply appreciated you doing it here. THAT'S the ineffable thingie about him!
jul 3, 2025, 7:18 am • 0 0 • view
It is perhaps similar to (though distinct from) Bill Murray’s “I would rather be almost anywhere else” vibe. Both feel like artifacts of 20th-century celebrity culture that are probably impossible to authentically replicate.
jul 2, 2025, 4:47 pm • 6 0 • view
more than that: any equivalently charismatic actor (or actress) today is not gonna have the same flavor of masculinity and even if you cloned him with a time machine that wouldn’t work as well as the original
jul 2, 2025, 10:23 pm • 2 0 • view
The closest actor I've seen get to that kind of vibe is probably Bruce Willis? But he is still a very different actor, and even more past his peak than Ford is.
jul 2, 2025, 4:47 pm • 3 0 • view
just realized who its going to be:
jul 2, 2025, 7:37 pm • 0 0 • view
jul 4, 2025, 2:36 pm • 0 0 • view
that and anybody cast today would try to get into crazy good shape, and learn how to throw a punch, and they'd miss the whole persona. gotta find the very old blog post on "has Indy ever thrown a punch where he didn't almost fall down?"
jul 2, 2025, 6:06 pm • 12 0 • view
lol, 14 years ago: "Watching Harrison Ford draw back and punch somebody, is akin to bearing witness to a violent seizure or dry heave. Near as I can tell, the man has no fucking clue what he’s doing, nor any real control over his actions; yet somehow, he’s pretty damn consistent ...
jul 2, 2025, 6:09 pm • 5 0 • view
Surprisingly good with the whip in a way you can tell he developed that skill to impress girls. But yeah, he’s not that competent and failure is his constant companion. The first movie opens with him failing!
jul 2, 2025, 9:36 pm • 0 0 • view
about doing it the same way every time. You see he doesn’t really punch, per se. It’s more like he sticks out his arm like Superman and falls fist first into people’s faces."
jul 2, 2025, 6:09 pm • 9 2 • view
and like "Solo", there's no need for it
jul 2, 2025, 4:45 pm • 7 0 • view
they'd be better off doing a ripoff and pretending it was a new franchise "No, Kentucky McGee is a totally different guy"
jul 2, 2025, 4:46 pm • 7 0 • view
“Saskatchewan McKenzie and the Tomb of Champlain” *scene of Jared Keeso holding a skull with a powerdered wig* “This belongs in a museum, eh?”
jul 2, 2025, 9:45 pm • 7 0 • view
“We named the rooster Kentucky.”
jul 2, 2025, 10:18 pm • 3 0 • view
He’s got this “Everyman Hero Who Comes out on Top, Slightly Worse For Wear” vibe that few have ever come close to, like you smashed Tom Hanks and Bruce Willis together in a particle accelerator.
jul 2, 2025, 4:48 pm • 11 1 • view
Bruce Willis was sorta that in the first Die Hard. I think Jackie Chan and Bruce Campbell often had different versions of that vibe too.
jul 2, 2025, 9:40 pm • 3 0 • view
could you get someone else to do an awesome adventure series that’s a different spin on Indy? probably are they going to be able to replicate the appeal of the original? no, you pretty much have to go in a different direction which they aren’t going to do
jul 2, 2025, 4:45 pm • 435 9 • view
even the closest Indy analogues, like The Mummy, have never succeeded (or mostly even attempted) to duplicate this particular feature
jul 2, 2025, 6:44 pm • 0 0 • view
I'll bet they don't even have the Nazis as the bad guys in this ill-advised reboot. Too "political".
jul 2, 2025, 7:51 pm • 3 0 • view
They immediately should have green lit a reboot-quel starring Ke Huy Quan as Short Round as soon as EEAAO came out
jul 2, 2025, 4:51 pm • 18 0 • view
No argument from me. Ke Huy Quan has charisma to spare and I'm here for him in anything, especially an adventure film.
jul 2, 2025, 4:54 pm • 7 0 • view
There's countless Indie clones already - tomb raider + uncharted obvs came as games first, but there's also the mummy films, Sahara, national treasure, etc etc. plus it's hardly as if indie was original, it was based on old adventure films and TV shows!
jul 2, 2025, 5:09 pm • 2 0 • view
Yes. Instead of relentlessly doing reboots, could we not just have an original idea pref without a white male lead and a properly diverse cast. But maybe I'm asking for too much...!
jul 2, 2025, 5:19 pm • 0 0 • view
They need to wait another generation, so people other than movie buffs won’t even remember the first batch of films
jul 2, 2025, 5:19 pm • 0 0 • view
We already got property inspired by Indy in the Brendan Fraser Mummy movies. EVERYONE loves the 1st one. A lot of people love the 2nd one. No one remembers the 3rd one at all. What they need to do is follow in the footsteps of the model of that instead of a direct reboot.
jul 2, 2025, 4:53 pm • 2 0 • view
maybe the reboot will focus on Indiana Jones, the dog?
jul 3, 2025, 3:52 pm • 0 0 • view
oh, I think they'll go in a different direction alright, it'll just be going from "low-key goofy ode to pulp novels with generationally charismatic everyman star" to "generic 21st century action movie with unnecessarily jacked star and former-standup sidekick"
jul 2, 2025, 4:59 pm • 5 0 • view
Who, in the year of Our Lord 2025, is going to shit themselves half to death in the desert before saying to the director "Can't I just shoot the guy?"
jul 2, 2025, 5:00 pm • 9 0 • view
What really expresses the kind of vibe Indy has to me is the scene where he encounters a swordsman slashing at the air in an attempt to intimidate and show off their skill and Indy just... pulls out his gun and shoots him like he's not got time for mucking about.
jul 2, 2025, 5:34 pm • 2 0 • view
It wasn't even acting, it was genuine! Like, Ford was just McDone with filming due to a case of dysentery
jul 2, 2025, 6:22 pm • 7 0 • view
Hell, The Rocketeer's been sitting on ice for decades at this point, it's got the right tone, right setting, Billy Campbell was a delight but he's definitely replaceable, why not just take another shot at that? Ooh, right, because they are cowards.
jul 2, 2025, 7:59 pm • 12 0 • view
>be me >having a day >Rocketeer mentioned >10000% memory damage taken as I remember how obsessed I was with that movie when it released and how it's currently forgotten by anyone & everyone who could do anything cool with it
jul 2, 2025, 8:28 pm • 10 0 • view
Sorry, I get it, if it helps it looks like there have been signs of life, but, as previously stated, Disney are fucking cowards, so it's stuck in limbo for now, Oyelowo seems pretty passionate about it though
jul 2, 2025, 8:45 pm • 6 0 • view
no no its fine its not like i had multiple book adaptations of the movie including the graphic novel the big artbook of production stills and the kids storybook that had one of those cassette tapes that played a radio drama that you read along with in the book its fine its fine im fine
jul 2, 2025, 8:54 pm • 7 0 • view
Lesbian Rocketeer.
jul 3, 2025, 3:15 pm • 2 0 • view
It's going to suck. There's no way people won't watch it constantly comparing it to Ford's version of Indy. But it'll still make money, which is all Disney cares about.
jul 2, 2025, 4:57 pm • 0 0 • view
I’d love it if film makers got inspired by Ford’s style of acting to make more earnestly enjoyable movies. I fear they’ll just turn the reboot into the bland, glib, flat nothing of modern action movies
jul 2, 2025, 4:47 pm • 5 0 • view
Give me an updated Relic Hunter. Tia Carrere could still star in it!
jul 2, 2025, 5:04 pm • 2 0 • view
Anyone cast in that role is always going to be compared to Ford, unfortunately. Just as whoever the current Bond is gets compared to past ones. Never really allowed to let their version stand on its own.
jul 2, 2025, 5:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Which they kinda tried to set up though. It failed miserably in the execution, but the basic concept they had with Shia LaBoeuf's character was the right direction to set up a non-Ford Indy
jul 2, 2025, 5:00 pm • 2 0 • view
Why don’t they just do what they did with Star Wars and expand the universe? New characters in the same world fighting Nazis and other evil doers.
jul 2, 2025, 4:46 pm • 10 0 • view
I'd pay real money to see Short Round take on bigoted cultists
jul 3, 2025, 6:28 am • 11 0 • view
Adult Short Round
jul 3, 2025, 6:29 am • 6 0 • view
They should do alien vs predator but with Indy and Lara croft, make it so bad that archeologists and gamers both unite in mutual hatred of it
jul 4, 2025, 6:35 am • 0 0 • view
cast chris pine in a fun pulpy adventure movie, he has great presence and charisma and d&d was awesome.
jul 2, 2025, 4:50 pm • 251 2 • view
He doesn’t look like he could credibly be an archaeology professor, and he looks like he’s 5’7”.
jul 2, 2025, 4:59 pm • 0 0 • view
Other than Indiana Jones, can you clarify what an "archaeology professor" looks like? And he is listed as 6' tall, an inch shorter than Indy (who likely has shrunk a bit since the 80s, at least given all the crashed plane damage)
jul 2, 2025, 6:14 pm • 5 0 • view
James Spader played an archaeology professor in Stargate, and he’s 5’10.
jul 3, 2025, 6:47 am • 0 0 • view
Chris Pine is an excellent choice as he has the range required to be serious, yet keep things light-hearted.
jul 2, 2025, 4:54 pm • 6 0 • view
Chris Evans is magnificent at comedy.
jul 3, 2025, 6:42 am • 0 0 • view
Please this. I yell Jahrnathan more than i should. Great energy for an archeologist.
jul 3, 2025, 3:47 pm • 0 0 • view
This reminds me of debate over who is the best James Bond. If the question you ask is “who is best at doing the beloved Sean Connery version of Bond”, there’s only one answer, and I would give that answer even though I think Daniel Craig is the best as in best acting and most interesting.
jul 2, 2025, 8:06 pm • 2 0 • view
Similarly, Top Gun original vs Maverick. If question is “what is best Fun Jet Fighter Movie” Maverick is arguably a contender. If question is “what is best at being the wild ass 1980s film Top Gun with the Berlin song and whatnot”, the debate is over
jul 2, 2025, 8:09 pm • 2 0 • view
This. Maverick is really well-made and also dropped many of the things I love about Top Gun (Kenny Loggins going ham, sweat dripping from everyone constantly, the entire movie being wildly gay but only about half the cast understanding that)
jul 2, 2025, 10:49 pm • 4 0 • view
He was a fun Captain Kirk in the first Trek reboot too
jul 2, 2025, 4:51 pm • 72 0 • view
“NUMB TUNG?!” is one of my favorite things to exclaim when my family and I get ice cream (which I invariably eat too fast). He’s so great at not taking himself seriously.
jul 2, 2025, 6:35 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes!!! That’s what made me love him!
jul 2, 2025, 6:13 pm • 5 0 • view
Bring back Allan Quatermain
jul 2, 2025, 5:12 pm • 3 0 • view
I’d much rather watch a D&D sequel than an Indiana Jones reboot.
jul 2, 2025, 11:23 pm • 2 0 • view
absolutely like, don't try to make it INDIANA JONES just give Pine a fun script and everyone will walk out of the theater smiling new franchise
jul 2, 2025, 4:54 pm • 175 3 • view
Human beings are not widgets. They truly are one-of-a-kind and the era of reboots--and now AI--make the money-hungry studios believe that whatever they want can be recreated in whatever way they invent. "The Studio" on Apple+ right now is a real education in studio culture!
jul 2, 2025, 5:41 pm • 1 0 • view
Edgar Wright to write and direct, and you'd be cooking. it wouldn't be like the old films but it'd be fun
jul 2, 2025, 4:55 pm • 53 1 • view
'Bout time we rebooted Flash Gordon. Or a space-themed romp, at least. Yes, I'm thinking of my Jason Statham bounty hunter hoboing from planet to planet thing again.
jul 3, 2025, 6:25 am • 2 0 • view
I love the comic, the serial, and the movie, but Ming the Merciless is unsalvageable.
jul 3, 2025, 6:40 am • 3 0 • view
Fair. Star Wars was a tribute, much like Indiana Jones was. It's good to echo without rebooting, I think
jul 3, 2025, 6:45 am • 4 0 • view
Saying which, I haven't watched Rebel Moon and don't terribly want to
jul 3, 2025, 7:06 am • 0 0 • view
The Mummy (1999) showed the way. By all means make a fun pulp movie about an adventurer in the era before WW2. Throw in some lost ruins and magic. Those are great! Just lose the hat and bullwhip, and write for the strengths of your cast now, not those of Harrison Ford 40 years ago.
jul 2, 2025, 6:01 pm • 54 3 • view
Who has the sweetness of Brendan Frasier?
jul 3, 2025, 6:41 am • 4 0 • view
See Tintin… Spielberg has already proven that you can remake Indiana Jones without Indiana Jones.
jul 3, 2025, 3:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes! It's crazy that in this world of extended cinematic universes that they still do reboots instead of continuations. Give me a story about Indiana Jones's top graduate student. We get a new story, Ford gets to cameo. Everybody's happy!
jul 3, 2025, 6:28 am • 5 0 • view
This. Let's do a slightly more smoldery and serious National Treasure, but with Chris Pine. You can make a FUNCTIONALLY Just An Indiana Jones Movie without making it an ACTUAL Indiana Jones Movie.
jul 2, 2025, 7:54 pm • 3 0 • view
Apple is trying to do this with Office Jim right now and it’s hilariously bad
jul 2, 2025, 5:09 pm • 6 0 • view
Still waiting for a Lupita Nyongo museum heist to repatriate artifacts movie
jul 2, 2025, 4:50 pm • 21 0 • view
Although wasn’t that sort of the Michael B Jordan villain in the first Black Panther? Just get MBJ to take the lead
jul 2, 2025, 4:52 pm • 6 0 • view
Hopefully if Relooted is popular we will get a movie version ideally with Ford as the antagonist (it belongs in a museum gets a whole new twist) www.artnews.com/art-news/new...
jul 2, 2025, 10:25 pm • 12 1 • view
Tomb Raider's kinda in the same ballpark
jul 3, 2025, 3:53 pm • 0 0 • view
Every pretender to this throne (Pratt/Powell) has a certain “dead behind the eyes but I want fame” look. And you could redo Indy’s story but why would you? The politics of stealing artifacts and putting them in museums is pretty gross. You almost NEED the Nazis to make your premise look less sweaty.
jul 2, 2025, 5:06 pm • 2 0 • view
I would, however, watch the hell out of a grown Short Round busting into said museums to steal BACK the artifacts and return them to their rightful locations. Do, like, a pulpy heist movie.
jul 2, 2025, 5:06 pm • 12 2 • view
Suddenly, your antagonist is the system Indy worked in and around.
jul 2, 2025, 5:33 pm • 2 0 • view
Nostalgia brain uber alles
jul 2, 2025, 4:56 pm • 0 0 • view
yeah and it's not like they have a lot else to work with there is it? the core features of Indiana Jones are basically Harrison Ford and A Vibe
jul 2, 2025, 7:08 pm • 5 0 • view
like, franchises like Star Wars can support massive EUs because there's so much STUFF there. concepts for days! so you can swap out so many more elements because you have so many more to work with in the first place.
jul 2, 2025, 7:08 pm • 1 0 • view
They both only had three good movies
jul 3, 2025, 6:36 am • 0 0 • view
Star Wars is a big box of legos and Indiana Jones is one really really cool action figure.
jul 2, 2025, 7:08 pm • 2 0 • view
(both are good! not trying to rank one against the other, they're just different things, doing different things)
jul 2, 2025, 7:08 pm • 0 0 • view
Chris Pratt? He's generally a bit sillier than Ford but Star Lord is essentially Space Indiana Jones.
jul 2, 2025, 4:46 pm • 1 0 • view
He's got some problematic issues one might want to avoid, I'd say.
jul 2, 2025, 4:54 pm • 3 0 • view
I can only rewatch Parks and Rec by telling myself a real person named Andy Dwyer just inhabited Chris Pratt for those years.
jul 2, 2025, 5:10 pm • 5 0 • view
I feel like his issues have been a bit overblown. He says never attended that Hillsong church. Is he religious? Yah. But that's his choice--I don't have to agree with him to enjoy his work. Not saying he's the best guy. But there are lots of jackasses in Hollywood.
jul 2, 2025, 5:16 pm • 0 0 • view
I mean, there is the whole thing where he bragged about how healthy his new kid with his new wife is, when he has a special-needs kid from his first marriage Idk, feel how you feel, I just can’t stand who he’s become and I’m entitled to feel that way. 🤷🏻♀️
jul 2, 2025, 5:38 pm • 4 0 • view
Everyone's take on him will vary. I know he is someone I'm not particularly comfortable with myself. I'm not trying to shut down anyone else's fandom for him, so i apologize if I signaled I was. Only intending to indicate that I know he's contentious in some specific ways for some folks.
jul 2, 2025, 6:00 pm • 1 0 • view
Contrast that with the fact that I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say a single bad thing about Harrison Ford ever, and he came up in the golden age of Insufferable Douches
jul 2, 2025, 6:01 pm • 3 0 • view
Ford started out as a set carpenter, and his vibe never really shifted from “crew who is a more than a bit done with the Hollywood shit and just wants to go home after shooting.”
jul 2, 2025, 7:56 pm • 7 0 • view
True, though he also came up in a time where social media didn't dissect every comment by every celebrity ever. I thought Pratt's comment about his "healthy" kid was in pretty bad taste, but that falls short of refusing to watch him in films for me.
jul 2, 2025, 6:14 pm • 0 0 • view
He's a punchline at this point for slotting him into this stuff. 10 years ago, had Jurassic World not released, they might have tried that. Now I think they'll do something like waste 6 years of Austin Butler's career instead.
jul 2, 2025, 4:48 pm • 11 0 • view
tired: the uncanny valley is a problem in making films wired: the uncanny valley is all that stands between us and the death of original ideas
jul 2, 2025, 4:44 pm • 4 0 • view
turn off the goddamn computers
jul 2, 2025, 4:45 pm • 2 0 • view
Not quite the same but Jackie Chan has a lot of that during his peak, he played it a bit more Buster Keaton than Ford did though
jul 2, 2025, 7:15 pm • 2 0 • view
Ford just had this raw masculine attractiveness, much like Sean Connery on his heyday, but like almost by accident. And I just don't think what Hollywood considers "sexy man" these days has what it takes to do Indy.
jul 2, 2025, 4:54 pm • 7 0 • view
Nathan Fillion gets there at times, but he really needs the right script.
jul 2, 2025, 4:47 pm • 0 0 • view
Nathan Fillion is also in his 50s. He's younger than Ford, but I don't think he has the years left as a leading action guy to headline a new reboot series.
jul 2, 2025, 5:17 pm • 3 0 • view
It will probably be Chris Pratt
jul 2, 2025, 4:44 pm • 0 0 • view
And we all stay home.
jul 2, 2025, 8:49 pm • 2 0 • view
jul 4, 2025, 2:37 pm • 0 0 • view
Maybe James Garner had something akin to that quality.
jul 3, 2025, 6:41 am • 0 0 • view
Which makes perfect sense when you understand how he got there one day you're a wannabe actor installing Francis Ford Coppolas kitchen next thing you know you're getting roped into this goofy scifi thing and the whole time you're still installing floors mrsawdust.com/blog/harriso...
jul 2, 2025, 4:49 pm • 20 0 • view
I met someone who had him redo their den/library and they said he’s a really good carpenter
jul 2, 2025, 5:05 pm • 14 0 • view
Harrison Ford (extreme right) circa 1966, when he was helping build Sergio Mendes’ (center) home studio
jul 2, 2025, 11:37 pm • 3 0 • view
The most recent indiana jones games replicated it pretty well but that's a different medium then movies so not sure if that translates
jul 2, 2025, 4:47 pm • 2 0 • view
i’m not even an especially big fan of indiana jones and even i can see that nothing’s ever been so destined for “not as good as the original” as “raiders of the lost ark remake.”
jul 2, 2025, 4:50 pm • 18 0 • view
The fundamental problem is you need someone who has the same love of old movie serials that Lucas/speilberg had 40 years ago the best you're going to get now is someone who loves Indiana Jones movies and that's a whole different thing.
jul 2, 2025, 5:14 pm • 19 0 • view
When I thought "who loves old movies" i immediately thought of tarantino and let out something between a sign and a scream
jul 2, 2025, 6:44 pm • 3 0 • view
It would be beautifully shot and the soundtrack would be impeccable
jul 2, 2025, 6:45 pm • 2 0 • view
And the dialogue would make me pray for nuclear armageddon
jul 2, 2025, 6:49 pm • 2 0 • view
Yes
jul 2, 2025, 6:56 pm • 1 0 • view
yeah, but “love of old radio serials like amos n andy” is also how we ended up with jar jar binks. and we already have 10 years of people who loved the things from 40 years ago filtering that into pastiche. just do something new.
jul 2, 2025, 5:23 pm • 9 0 • view
Well yeah that would be nice but studio execs are simple creatures
jul 2, 2025, 5:25 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes! They're also cowards and have no business anywhere near art of any kind
jul 2, 2025, 5:30 pm • 1 0 • view
I. Will. Die. On. This. Hill.
jul 2, 2025, 6:35 pm • 0 0 • view
I dunno....there have been how many James Bond? Superman? Batman?
jul 2, 2025, 6:24 pm • 0 0 • view
One of each that was brilliant, which is the point.
jul 3, 2025, 9:38 am • 0 0 • view
Disagree. I thought there were 2 Bonds that were great, 2 Batman. I think the point is you can skip seeing the remakes if you don't like the idea, but some of us might enjoy them and don't need the first group deciding what we can see. The box office will give them feedback.
jul 3, 2025, 3:46 pm • 0 0 • view
Harrison Ford was made in a lab (read: "studio carpentry team") to appeal to a specific type of dad that barely even exists anymore.
jul 2, 2025, 4:31 pm • 44 0 • view
I swear to God, Witness is basically an animated Ford calendar in vignettes: Ford does carpentry! Ford fixes a car! Ford takes off his shirt 'cause he's wounded! Ford plays with a kitten! Ford will build you a *house*! Ford gets in the bath! It's so fun.
jul 2, 2025, 4:51 pm • 43 1 • view
It makes sense. You can't have the nazis be the bad guys in america in 2025. The secret police would put you in the camps.
jul 3, 2025, 1:12 pm • 0 0 • view
Would that it were so simple
jul 2, 2025, 9:08 pm • 2 0 • view
studios i am begging you to rediscover 'taking a chance on cheaply budgeted films'
jul 2, 2025, 8:43 pm • 3 0 • view
Oh no. The original was timeless. Ugh! Why does Disney have to muck things up?
jul 3, 2025, 2:05 am • 0 0 • view
I liked Solo! But I also (1) went into it assuming it would suck, and was pleasantly surprised, and (2) wasn't going in saying "They'd better give me Harrison Ford levels of charisma here..." Alden Ehrenreich was good (Donald Glover was AMAZING), but not Ford good. But then, as you say, nobody is.
jul 3, 2025, 3:49 pm • 5 0 • view
Exactly. The Mummy was great not just because of the wonderful cast but because it was relatively original. But it was still very much pulp with a good-looking, charismatic, and funny leading man and followed a similar template as Indiana Jones. But original ideas aren't allowed much anymore.
jul 2, 2025, 6:57 pm • 2 0 • view
There's a reason they had to cast Sean Connery as his dad. No one else would have been believable
jul 2, 2025, 7:12 pm • 3 0 • view
They would have to find someone who could put an entirely different spin on Indiana's charisma, and I don't think Disney is brave enough to do that.
jul 2, 2025, 4:32 pm • 5 0 • view
Glen Powell seems to be the cocky American actor of the moment - he could work with the right writing.
jul 2, 2025, 5:03 pm • 4 0 • view
That was who came to mind for me as well. Although with his first “leading man” role being The Running Man, Disney probably wouldn’t consider him “family-friendly” enough.
jul 2, 2025, 11:46 pm • 2 0 • view
you know what? I don't hate it.
jul 3, 2025, 9:55 am • 1 0 • view
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wenl...
jul 3, 2025, 6:31 am • 6 0 • view
It's not like "The Adventures of young Indiana Jones" doesn't already exist [ and was great ]....
jul 2, 2025, 5:46 pm • 0 0 • view
Smart move would be to cast Ke Huy Quan in a Short Round spinoff.
jul 2, 2025, 5:10 pm • 1 0 • view
Star Trek managed to balance the original cast’s brilliance with an equally amazing new one. Not an imitation, but the nods were there, as was the charisma. It’s just that the casting team needs to care way more about the charisma and less about the symmetry of the face. And they didn’t w Solo.
jul 2, 2025, 8:47 pm • 3 0 • view
I mean, if they go the "Young Indiana Jones" approach they might be able to pull it off... o.o'
jul 2, 2025, 8:18 pm • 0 0 • view
South Park will be proven correct- again. They can't help themselves and they appear to have endless billions to lose.
jul 3, 2025, 10:30 am • 0 0 • view
Pedro Pascal. You can joke about his current schedule allowing it but I’ll die on the hill of his charisma and *very different* kind of masculine energy being a way to both update and magnetize the franchise.
jul 2, 2025, 5:13 pm • 78 1 • view
jul 3, 2025, 3:29 pm • 1 0 • view
Whew. The way I nodded in agreement with the original poster that it could never be done and then whiplashed right to Pedro could do it.
jul 2, 2025, 5:18 pm • 28 0 • view
Adding Diego Luna to the mix.
jul 2, 2025, 5:36 pm • 22 1 • view
Instead of "this belongs in a museum", his new tagline will be "this should be repatriated to the Indigenous people".
jul 2, 2025, 5:39 pm • 60 1 • view
I was JUST thinking that!
jul 2, 2025, 5:51 pm • 4 0 • view
He could be like a bounty hunter for indigenous people’s artifacts but instead of being paid in money will only take something from them he needs like some meat or medicine, or maybe have them fix his saddle.
jul 2, 2025, 5:51 pm • 3 0 • view
Honestly the entire thing should just be heists — breaking in to museums to restore artifacts to their original peoples. And punching Nazis.
jul 2, 2025, 5:49 pm • 42 3 • view
STEALING BACK FROM NAZIS.
jul 2, 2025, 5:51 pm • 33 2 • view
Hollywood I've just had a great idea, heist movie were they break into harlan crows house and burn all his nazi memorabilia
jul 2, 2025, 6:54 pm • 58 7 • view
or steal Clarence Thomas's motorhome (that Harlan paid for) load it up with all the Nazi memorabilia, and do a road trip movie. Do a Thelma and Louise into the Grand Canyon as the last act (JD Vance strapped in the driver’s seat).
jul 2, 2025, 7:52 pm • 2 0 • view
The TV show Justified did an episode years ago about the destruction of Nazi memorabilia.
jul 2, 2025, 7:29 pm • 1 0 • view
A WW2-era heist crew that used to steal from Nazis, elderly and bored now, reunite for one last job: break into the mansion of reclusive zillionaire Ellison Rook and wreck all his Nazi shit. (Set it a few decades ago so you don't have to cast all centenarians.)
jul 2, 2025, 7:11 pm • 17 2 • view
Inglorious Bastards crossed with Oceans 11. Paging Brad Pitt...
jul 2, 2025, 7:30 pm • 0 0 • view
Now we’re talking!
jul 2, 2025, 5:51 pm • 3 0 • view
I love this. more Diego Luna!
jul 3, 2025, 2:17 pm • 1 0 • view
Dammit - I literally just called Ford an ICON, he can’t be replaced. Except now I admit Pedro would kill it in the role.
jul 2, 2025, 11:09 pm • 1 0 • view
I submit Ryan Gosling, Fall Guy has shown the way.
jul 3, 2025, 2:16 pm • 5 0 • view
But we love a racially diverse approach! (I love Ryan Gosling A LOT, and he could do it, but loving both Diego and Pedro as a way of refreshing the POV)
jul 3, 2025, 3:10 pm • 4 0 • view
The only actor who could do it, but I think he’s too old. Needs to be a guy in his mid 30s, Indy is a youngish professor in Raiders.
jul 2, 2025, 5:16 pm • 1 0 • view
DIEGO LUNA (who is in his 40s, but…)
jul 2, 2025, 5:35 pm • 1 0 • view
for real! the success of indiana jones was 100% harrison ford. who can possibly fill his shoes?
jul 2, 2025, 6:41 pm • 5 0 • view
I'm just bored with all the knock-offs anyway Not planning on watching any reboots At all Ever
jul 2, 2025, 9:33 pm • 1 0 • view
Especially because Ford's charisma is a very specific type, so keeping the character will work against them. They could do something like The Mummy (the bisexual version, not the Tom Cruise one), which was a fresh take on similar tropes, and escaped that pitfalls bc Fraser was something different.
jul 2, 2025, 4:48 pm • 4 0 • view
My pitch: Lupita Nyong’o stars as a former Indiana Jones protégé turned rogue archaeologist. Now, she’s stealing artifacts from the Louvre and British Museum. Not for profit, but to return them to the cultures they were stolen from.
jul 2, 2025, 4:53 pm • 10 1 • view
"That DOESN'T belong in a museum!"
jul 2, 2025, 5:11 pm • 2 0 • view
I could not agree more. Harrison Ford is an ICON.
jul 2, 2025, 11:06 pm • 0 0 • view
it would be like so sick if they made original properties again, probably
jul 2, 2025, 4:36 pm • 0 0 • view
I really wanted to like "Solo" too. Even the young Lando Calrissian (expertly played by Donald Glover) couldn't save the movie. For certainly they will never get Ford's screen appeal in whomever they get. Not that I won't go see it anyway, but the bar is VERY high.
jul 2, 2025, 10:43 pm • 0 0 • view
the thing Indiana Jones has going for it, is it's inherently episodic so I think you could very easily James Bond it. it's why I don't think the Bad to Mid later sequels really hurt it as a francise. the trouble is though that even for Bond the tide has turned against episodic movie francises.
jul 2, 2025, 4:44 pm • 0 0 • view
like the smart thing to do would be to say this guy is playing indiana jones now and here is a new adventure, but in 2025 I'm not sure they can resist doing Indiana Jones Origins or something.
jul 2, 2025, 4:45 pm • 0 0 • view
While on the topic of reboots, did we really need another Fantastic 4 reboot? Asking for a friend.
jul 2, 2025, 5:55 pm • 0 0 • view
The thing that seriously bothered me about the last two (even though KOTCS is a send up of red scare UFO mania and watching it with that in mind it’s a smidge better) was that the puzzle solving was handed to Indy. I would be fine with Harrison again but let him be an archeologist & teacher.
jul 2, 2025, 5:06 pm • 0 0 • view
Maybe he has a student protege that he feels kinship toward. That person can squeeze through holes and face ghosts with Indy’s lectures rattling in their brain as guidance.
jul 2, 2025, 5:06 pm • 0 0 • view
It was certainly successful when they tried it with (checks notes) Shia LeBeouf River Phoenix did a great job, but I think he had the advantage of playing him pre-grizzled
jul 2, 2025, 5:27 pm • 3 0 • view
Plus... Indie needs to be sweaty and dirty. He needs to kill bad guys in up close and personal, often grotesque, ways. He needs to fuck, not fall in love. He needs to take punches, get bruised and worn out. He's clever, but not quippy. They can't do any of this today. They don't have the recipe.
jul 2, 2025, 6:20 pm • 2 0 • view
Whoa, slow your roll. Indie had a love, not an itinerary.
jul 3, 2025, 9:40 am • 0 0 • view
But, while we are here, let's come up with candidates. Glen Powell is charismatic and capable of putting a different spin on the character.
jul 2, 2025, 4:55 pm • 0 0 • view
I am not sure anyone can pull off "aggrieved" heroism the way Ford did.
jul 2, 2025, 4:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah I just dont think Indiana Jones can work anymore. Not just for the reasons you stated but also WWII is just not in our cultural memory the same way. They should reboot Star Wars
jul 2, 2025, 4:38 pm • 8 0 • view
Yes on your point about WW2 not being a cultural touch point anymore. Younger generations probably don't even know anyone who went through it at this point. But I think rebooting Star Wars isn't good either. We need new stories for modern times, not franchise retellings over and over again.
jul 2, 2025, 4:56 pm • 7 0 • view
I agree and the Star Wars pitch is kind of a joke.
jul 2, 2025, 5:09 pm • 6 0 • view
Oh, my bad! 😅
jul 2, 2025, 5:34 pm • 1 0 • view
I would fully anticipate they swap out Nazis for some fictional nondescript enemy, so as not to insult all of the very fine people who might buy movie tickets
jul 2, 2025, 5:39 pm • 0 0 • view
It's not the 80s anymore! And Indiana Jones because it was something new and created by people with passion who were willing to take risks! This is the opposite of that in every respect.
jul 3, 2025, 6:43 am • 0 0 • view
not completely correct. donald glover should be the new Indiana jones. *mic drop*
jul 2, 2025, 4:36 pm • 2 0 • view
Donald Glover’s screen presence really did match the original charisma of Billy Dee Williams as Lando. I think it would be hard to reboot “Indiana Jones” for several different reasons, but I would gladly watch Donald Glover in an archeological-adventurer-type movie franchise.
jul 2, 2025, 4:44 pm • 2 0 • view
No Hiddleston. Has to be a Yank. Cast someone no ones heard of. Go big.
jul 2, 2025, 4:56 pm • 1 0 • view
Didn't they already try this? Isn't that what The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles was?
jul 2, 2025, 4:32 pm • 1 0 • view
Perhaps Tom Hiddleston? His Loki acting in both film and TV series has a certain comedic value that might work.
jul 2, 2025, 4:47 pm • 0 0 • view
Disagree because the recent game pulled it off, but I have 0 appetite for this the way I do for that game
jul 2, 2025, 4:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Also the whole "they'll just cast a guy who looks like Harrison Ford" thing will take over compared to just casting a VA
jul 2, 2025, 4:36 pm • 0 0 • view
Counterpoint
jul 3, 2025, 3:09 am • 0 0 • view
I mean, there are charismatic actors who can match H.Ford. But NOT in this role. Invent new cool characters and new stories for fantasys sake.
jul 2, 2025, 4:31 pm • 3 0 • view
In this risk averse Hollywood? Might as well ask for a unicorn.
jul 2, 2025, 4:33 pm • 1 0 • view
you need to find the sort of person who gets too tired to function on set and says "fuck it" and just shoots the guy. Which is surprisingly difficult.
jul 2, 2025, 10:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Probably a blonde dude named Chris?
jul 2, 2025, 4:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Lean into it and cast Alden Ehrenreich 🤣
jul 2, 2025, 10:28 pm • 0 0 • view
NO LEAVE MY BOY ALONE
jul 2, 2025, 4:53 pm • 1 0 • view
It's the same thing with the Alien franchise and Sigourney Weaver's Ripley.
jul 3, 2025, 6:55 am • 2 0 • view
I wish companies, if they had to milk IPs like this, would consider that there are many other options for doing that besides just making more movies.
jul 2, 2025, 5:11 pm • 0 0 • view
I can't think of a single actor that could come close to pulling off a reboot.
jul 2, 2025, 7:06 pm • 3 0 • view
I really enjoyed the Young Indiana jones limited series, tbh
jul 2, 2025, 9:57 pm • 3 0 • view
They don't want to invest in anything new, especially anything made by humans. With IJ, they're taking The Most Interesting Man In Tge World, and saying, "Oh look, here's another one." We should just respond with a withering look and go watvh something made by people who actually love the work.
jul 3, 2025, 9:32 am • 0 0 • view
They're going to get Chris Pratt
jul 2, 2025, 4:35 pm • 0 0 • view
I wouldn't mind seeing Robert Sheehan give it a go. He had plenty of charisma in Umbrella Academy.
jul 2, 2025, 5:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Really want to grab Bob Iger and the rest of the Disney execs by the shoulders and shake some sense into them.
jul 2, 2025, 4:35 pm • 2 0 • view
It's a pity they can't come up with new films.
jul 3, 2025, 9:45 am • 0 0 • view
With the Indiana Jones franchise, it's a pity they did.
jul 3, 2025, 10:01 am • 1 0 • view
I mean new different. They had their time. New stuff needed.
jul 3, 2025, 10:43 am • 0 0 • view
even River Phoenix failed.
jul 3, 2025, 3:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Perhaps the original Rizzler
jul 2, 2025, 5:25 pm • 0 0 • view
100% agreed. Harrison Ford was a singular star and they won’t easily replace him.
jul 2, 2025, 4:35 pm • 0 0 • view
I actually disagree with this. Indiana Jones is an archetypal pulp adventure hero and it's not a very hard performance to pull off. The problem is that pulp adventure stories are increasingly forgotten and filmmakers aren't stealing from the same fertile ground as George Lucas.
jul 2, 2025, 4:38 pm • 1 0 • view
That's why they keep trying to expand on the life and story of Indiana Jones (not the point, nobody cares) instead of just pumping out somewhat-shallow serialized action adventure shlock (historically popular, successful)
jul 2, 2025, 4:42 pm • 1 0 • view
Yeah, the Brendon Fraiser Mummy movies I’d argue are more culturally relevant than Indy at this point. I mean sure we had a new game for Indy but you just know if they got Brendon back for a 4th Mummy it would do gang busters.
jul 2, 2025, 4:44 pm • 2 0 • view
Bring back Mutt (I know they said he died in Vietnam but we love to pretend about pow/mia)
jul 2, 2025, 4:29 pm • 0 0 • view
STILL pissed off that Solo didn't get a sequel. I would have LOVED a continuing series of adventures of Han Solo and Lando Calrissian! The actors were both great!
jul 2, 2025, 4:58 pm • 2 0 • view
Make it Alan Ritchson and he’s fighting 2025 nazis
jul 2, 2025, 4:31 pm • 9 0 • view
Just make more stuff with Alan Ritchson please.
jul 2, 2025, 5:04 pm • 2 0 • view
That's why it should be Fleabag! Just take it in a completely different direction
jul 3, 2025, 6:23 am • 1 0 • view
jul 2, 2025, 5:12 pm • 4 0 • view
The only way this could possibly work is as a Disney+ show with like 10 episode seasons that comes in way over budget.
jul 2, 2025, 8:40 pm • 0 0 • view
Alden is a great actor and did a good job, but this is correct
jul 2, 2025, 4:34 pm • 5 0 • view
I think Ryan Gosling is an actor who can recreate the Harrison Ford charisma.
jul 2, 2025, 4:51 pm • 0 0 • view
This is the correct take
jul 2, 2025, 6:17 pm • 0 0 • view
....because Disney wants money not because it needs it
jul 2, 2025, 4:31 pm • 1 0 • view
Yeah but I doubt this would make a ton of it.
jul 2, 2025, 4:32 pm • 0 0 • view
My issue isn't so much this as I'm really really tired of Hollywood retreads and sequels. Write a damn original screenplay. Why "Everything Everywhere All At Once" was so refreshing.
jul 2, 2025, 4:48 pm • 14 0 • view
Wes Anderson is right there.
jul 2, 2025, 4:59 pm • 1 0 • view
Sinners, too.
jul 2, 2025, 5:08 pm • 3 0 • view
Good point, I haven't seen that yet but the buzz says "oh yes"
jul 2, 2025, 5:09 pm • 1 0 • view
And can we also say CGI Harrison Ford, al la "Dial of Destiny," is NOT the answer?
jul 2, 2025, 4:49 pm • 1 0 • view
Trump said they cloned Biden, what if they used that technology to clone Harrison Ford, only younger? let's think outside the box here!
jul 2, 2025, 8:47 pm • 2 0 • view
No.
jul 3, 2025, 9:33 am • 0 0 • view
I think if they just created a new adventure story, with new characters and plot, they absolutely _could_ recreate that level of charisma. But yeah, if they're doing a reboot, it's just not going to work.
jul 2, 2025, 4:34 pm • 0 0 • view
On one hand, i get reboots - they're a way to introduce a younger audience to an older franchise; on the other, i also find some movies to be near impossible to recapture the original magic well enough. Indy is one of them. Although, and i hate to say it, but maybe Chris Pratt?? 🤔
jul 3, 2025, 1:44 am • 1 0 • view
And it isn't actually *necessary* to do so either. I mean, the movies hold up pretty well, except for the occasional wince-worthy 'of its time' stuff. Why can't they just think up a new IP instead?
jul 3, 2025, 10:00 am • 1 0 • view
I don't see why they need to reboot. They have Short Round right there (maybe with some name tweaking).
jul 3, 2025, 9:32 am • 0 0 • view
I would have watched an Indiana Jones series with River Phoenix. Alas...
jul 3, 2025, 2:00 pm • 0 0 • view
Maybe off topic, but I think peak Harrison Ford is in Shrinking. I would watch him sing in the car with Jessica Williams all day long. And another vote for Phoebe Waller-Bridge if they really feel like they have to reboot it.
jul 2, 2025, 6:18 pm • 0 0 • view
Man the problem with solo is they didn’t let lord and miller cook and then hired Ron fucking Howard to make it less funny. None of this Harrison ford hero worship.
jul 2, 2025, 5:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Even Lucas tried with Shia Lebeuf nobody liked him and it was considered the worst movie of the series until the last one came out that I already forgot the name of.
jul 2, 2025, 6:03 pm • 1 0 • view
Many actors could pull this off: Mark Strong, Clive Owen, Idris Elba, Michael B Jordan, Edi Gathegi, Katee Sackhoff, Tig Notaro, Charlize Theron, Scott Adkins, Tom Hardy, Jason Momoa. Personally I'd love to see the fandom heads explode if Edi Gathegi, Katee Sackhoff or Tig Notaro were cast as Indy.
jul 3, 2025, 1:54 pm • 3 0 • view
Katee Sackhoff is an awesome call, she would knock it out of the park. I love Clive Owen, but I don’t think he would pull it off. Momoa would be too goofy.
jul 3, 2025, 3:38 pm • 0 0 • view
Have you seen Shoot Em Up? That Clive Owen combined with Clive Owen from Children of Men could totally pull it off. Momoa would be the Indy from Temple of Doom and Crystal Skull. But an Indy played by Sackhoff would be made of awesome sauce.
jul 3, 2025, 3:50 pm • 0 0 • view
The issue is they worry more about a guy who kind of looks like Ford rather than casting for charisma. After seeing Dope, I maintain that if they had cast Shameik Moore as Solo it would have worked
jul 2, 2025, 4:32 pm • 32 0 • view
Have you seen The Get Down? Shameik Moore is Fantastic in that (pun intended).
jul 3, 2025, 6:40 am • 0 0 • view
Taron Egerton, Tom Holland...
jul 2, 2025, 4:36 pm • 3 0 • view
Tom Holland is no Harrison Ford
jul 2, 2025, 4:41 pm • 7 0 • view
No one is, but he is charismatic enough
jul 2, 2025, 4:42 pm • 1 0 • view
He was fine in Uncharted, but I don't think he can be Indy
jul 2, 2025, 5:13 pm • 1 0 • view
I agree, but not bc of the charisma, I think he is kind of a different action hero meant to a different audience. Egerton checks more boxes IMHO
jul 2, 2025, 5:16 pm • 3 0 • view
Not sure about Egerton, but totally on everything else.
jul 2, 2025, 5:31 pm • 1 0 • view
And, to be fair, in Solo, which was the first topic here, I think even Holland would have worked, bc it's a story of how a mischievous Solo grows into the cheating smuggler we know, losing himself along the way...
jul 2, 2025, 5:34 pm • 3 0 • view
I loved Solo, I have no complaints about the cast (I watched a dubbed version).
jul 2, 2025, 5:37 pm • 3 0 • view
I watched the original version and it was a really funny action movie but it could have been out of the Star Wars universe and worked out far better, IMO
jul 2, 2025, 5:38 pm • 4 0 • view
Tom Holland couldn’t even pull off Nathan Drake!
jul 2, 2025, 4:47 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm not sure anything in that particular movie is any of the actors' fault, TBH
jul 2, 2025, 4:50 pm • 2 0 • view
what's very wild and correct about this: i thought alden ehrenreich did a good job! but still wasn't close to ford!
jul 2, 2025, 5:15 pm • 0 0 • view
Truly though. I had never seen a Harrison ford project and I watched shrinking. The name has more charisma in his hair than most people have in their whole live
jul 3, 2025, 6:26 am • 7 0 • view
I've grown extremely distrustful of this take because it's what led us to CGI Harrison Ford. Solo's casting of Han wasn't great, I definitely agree there, but there are so many examples throughout the history of film of actors stepping up to bring their unique spin on legendary characters.
jul 2, 2025, 4:50 pm • 5 1 • view
If we're gonna call these modern myths they can't be connected to just one actor, you know? A strong enough character is so much more than that.
jul 2, 2025, 4:50 pm • 4 0 • view
A recast Indy WILL be different, but that's not the same as being worse (which it could of course also end up as, ala Solo)
jul 2, 2025, 4:51 pm • 5 0 • view
they probably need John Powell/Batu Sener's phone numbers
jul 3, 2025, 10:00 am • 0 0 • view
Glen Powell will put in the most effort anyone has ever put into a movie, and it will be admirable and a pretty fun time, but it will not be Indiana Jones.
jul 2, 2025, 10:51 pm • 3 0 • view
i liked solo.
jul 2, 2025, 4:45 pm • 0 0 • view
They could substantially change the main character (while leaving many of the genre tropes and whatnot intact) by giving Ke Huy Quan a trilogy series, and letting his personality guide it. Instead they'll see what sort of Chris Pratt shaped object they can jam into the reference machine.
jul 2, 2025, 4:32 pm • 2 0 • view
I enjoyed Solo but you're absolutely right
jul 2, 2025, 6:34 pm • 0 0 • view
Okay but what if it’s Florence Pugh. What then.
jul 3, 2025, 7:03 am • 6 0 • view
I would definitely pay money to see that.
jul 3, 2025, 7:51 am • 2 0 • view
Eggzacly
jul 2, 2025, 5:42 pm • 0 0 • view
Solo was still a great and very under-rated Star Wars movie.
jul 2, 2025, 11:27 pm • 0 0 • view
And Hollywood has already tried Girl Indiana Jones, she was called Lara Croft and the box office results were meh.
jul 2, 2025, 4:31 pm • 0 0 • view
Lara Croft was NOT just “girl Indiana Jones”, though.
jul 2, 2025, 11:02 pm • 1 0 • view
The funny thing is Solo didn't leave me wanting more Han Solo stories. I wanted Donald Glover unleashed on the big screen for all the Lando stories I didn't know I needed until then because he was a spectacular in that.
jul 2, 2025, 10:40 pm • 60 0 • view
I left Solo feeling like I never, ever wanted to see it again. Something I'd never felt before or since in the franchise. The New Adventures of Lando though? Yeah, I'm totally here for that.
jul 2, 2025, 10:53 pm • 1 0 • view
Don't boo me. Donald Glover is great. He's made me happy every time I've seen his work.
jul 2, 2025, 10:41 pm • 34 1 • view
I still want more Lando! Donald Glover was fantastic.
jul 2, 2025, 10:45 pm • 7 0 • view
I'd watch at least 1 season of LANDO
jul 2, 2025, 10:46 pm • 9 0 • view
Oh, easily
jul 2, 2025, 10:48 pm • 1 0 • view
100%. He's been great since his early Derek Comedy sketches.
jul 2, 2025, 10:43 pm • 2 0 • view
Completely agree. Dude is a good actor.
jul 2, 2025, 10:43 pm • 1 0 • view
Donald Glover was perfect. That man puts his whole soul into everything he does. I'd also like to see more droid uprisings.
jul 3, 2025, 8:55 am • 0 0 • view
He was an amazing Lando!
jul 3, 2025, 9:54 am • 0 0 • view
And yet, they absolutely nailed Londo
jul 2, 2025, 11:50 pm • 0 0 • view
we watched Dial of Destiny and Red Hulk Movie this week, and it's really impressive how well Ford can play a problematic disaster of a man and still keep the audience's sympathy
jul 5, 2025, 11:19 am • 1 0 • view
I honestly would have let them use my idea for a series for free!
jul 2, 2025, 4:29 pm • 2 0 • view
It's Walton Goggins or I'm out.
jul 2, 2025, 5:08 pm • 0 0 • view
Troy Baker...
jul 3, 2025, 9:56 am • 0 0 • view
if they had the guts a reverse Indiana Jones (a.k.a. archaeologist who steals things from corrupt museums to repatriate them) starring Michael B. Jordan is a thing I would go see but Disney is run by gutless cowards
jul 2, 2025, 5:13 pm • 28 3 • view
Jordan and Pedro Pascal are about the two dudes best fit for the 'aggrieved crotchety heroics' guy that Ford had and neither of them I want to see AS Indiana Jones
jul 2, 2025, 5:14 pm • 8 0 • view
Honestly I'm a bit sad Dial of Destiny performed so poorly because I'd also love to see more of Phoebe Waller-Bridge's Helena
jul 2, 2025, 5:16 pm • 6 0 • view
I see this as a sign that corporations are making creative decisions about what to develop & greenlight…& CEOs & risk-averse bean counters traditionally have NO aptitude in art & storytelling creativity. No AI can ever duplicate a George Lucas, Stephen Spielberg, Harrison Ford or Karen Allen .
jul 2, 2025, 6:25 pm • 11 0 • view
If I hear of one more easter egg filled reboot of the blockbusters of yesteryear I'm gonna scream
jul 2, 2025, 7:15 pm • 1 0 • view
The one exception I can think of is that the head of the studio wrote the screenplay for John Carpenter's "In the Mouth of Madness" and that's probably the best Lovecraftian horror movie that will ever be made
jul 3, 2025, 7:39 am • 0 0 • view
Alden Ehrenreich is hot and I had no issues with his performance, the problem is that the script was ass and the premise was essentially doomed from the start
jul 2, 2025, 4:33 pm • 1 0 • view
Harrison Ford IS Han Solo and Indiana Jones. No others need apply.
jul 2, 2025, 9:07 pm • 5 0 • view
Even sub-peak Ford couldn’t keep it on the rails though the last couple scripts were powerfully dumb so there is that
jul 2, 2025, 4:31 pm • 6 0 • view
@da7e.bsky.social at least this will make for excellent podcast material no?
jul 2, 2025, 5:11 pm • 1 0 • view
Yeah, Ford is a tough act to follow. I would consider going in a completely different direction. (I also feel that Indiana Jones has had its day, tbh. Rebooting it says not very good things about how you feel about collections, repatriation, etc).
jul 2, 2025, 5:01 pm • 0 0 • view
A reverse Indiana jones who robs from his university’s collection to return an artifact to a dangerous trap filled temple
jul 3, 2025, 3:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Been suggested quite a few times.
jul 3, 2025, 3:31 pm • 1 0 • view
Only one man is up to the challenge:
jul 3, 2025, 1:23 pm • 0 0 • view
For hundreds of years writers have thought up new plots with new characters but we seem to have lost the knack. Everything's a franchise or a reboot, like we're already living in the AI future.
jul 2, 2025, 5:32 pm • 1 0 • view
It only seems so because we started recording things down in a system that can be widely searched. Just look at TV tropes, and note that at its core a lot of works are just recombinations of different existing ideas. Truly novel ideas (the trope makers) are few and far between.
jul 2, 2025, 5:39 pm • 1 0 • view
Ugh. You're right. But Disney doesn't have the talent or resources to think up IPs that are new and fresh. That's why they bought up the Marvel, Star Wars and Jones franchises.
jul 2, 2025, 4:33 pm • 1 0 • view
Peak John Williams was on another level. Hard to imagine a reboot sounding anywhere near as good as the first three
jul 3, 2025, 2:00 pm • 0 0 • view
The Young Indiana Jones TV series was pretty fun (I am old). Sean Patrick Flanery had a good combo of reckless and feckless that worked.
jul 3, 2025, 8:08 am • 2 0 • view
Yeah, but, as in all these reboot cases, there are enough drones out there who just want to consume who will make it seem the cost was justified. Like all the live action redos.
jul 3, 2025, 8:05 am • 0 0 • view
Yeah, you nailed it. If they're smart, they'll do prequels, so there can be a built in reason why he's not the cool Indy we know. But that still doesn't give you a new Harrison Ford.
jul 2, 2025, 11:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Closest we ever got was Chris Pratt circa 2014-2015. Even then it was a different more goofy sort of charisma than Ford had. Also Pratt has sorta worn out his welcome. But that might be a me thing, haven’t really probed anyone else on it.
jul 2, 2025, 4:32 pm • 9 0 • view
Oh, Chris Pratt can walk directly into the ocean. I'm not only exhausted with him, he's also a real weirdo Christian of the sort that's wrecking our country right now.
jul 2, 2025, 4:34 pm • 14 0 • view
That’s why I specified 2014-2015. Pratt peaked with Guardians of the Galaxy and Jurassic World then fell off.
jul 2, 2025, 4:35 pm • 5 0 • view
GoTG 1 is great IMO because Star-Lord feels like a parody of his later roles before they came out.
jul 2, 2025, 5:16 pm • 2 0 • view
I think that was the point. Star-Lord feels like a kid who grew up watching pulp sci-fi and is trying to imitate that sort of moxie to mixed results. Pratt's comedic ability, coming just off Parks and Rec, helps in that regard. No longer leaning into that loveable clumsiness is what really hurt him.
jul 2, 2025, 5:42 pm • 2 0 • view
THE LEGO MOVIE was a big success w/him for the same reason. The latter ones...well I don't really go for them!
jul 2, 2025, 5:45 pm • 2 0 • view
I agree with both of you. Pratt is best when he's funny. But the Jurassic World flicks - especially the last one - have him so taciturn and wooden that you could've cast literally anyone else. Hell, you could've cast ME and not changed anything. I can hold my hand out while making eye contact.
jul 2, 2025, 5:51 pm • 1 0 • view
I think the problem is that Hollywood developed an aversion to allowing their characters to be clumsy. Even Harrison Ford's roles worked best when he was allowed to be a bit clumsy at times. From Han accidentally running headlong into a room of stormtroopers to Indy in his archeology class.
jul 2, 2025, 5:58 pm • 6 0 • view
It's what made Pratt's characters likeable too. Even in the first Jurassic World he was kinda clumsy and a bit of a dork but meant well. Sure, he leans on the "dorky" more than Ford did but the point stands.
jul 2, 2025, 5:59 pm • 2 0 • view
Whatever we do, let’s make absolutely sure we definitely don’t have any New Ideas
jul 2, 2025, 7:29 pm • 3 0 • view
I hope Harrison Ford speaks out against this travesty and tells Disney to finally go fuck themselves. During the new Star Wars trilogy promotion, Mark Hamill was able to skillfully call out Disney while not explicitly naming them for their shitty work on the last three episodes.
jul 3, 2025, 6:47 am • 2 0 • view
Good to see Indy punch Nazis though.
jul 2, 2025, 4:37 pm • 2 0 • view
The reason the great circle worked is because they got someone to impersonate him pretty well and had a script that was written like an Indy film. This was not a sign that you can replace Harrison in a live action movie
jul 2, 2025, 4:34 pm • 8 0 • view
Totally but man the voice actor for great circle is incredible
jul 2, 2025, 5:01 pm • 3 0 • view
Yeah, but you do realize that the argument "you can't recreate Ford's charisma" fails the second you bring up Great Circle. You can argue that Ford's face is still needed, but you can't argue the initial claim OP made, because Baker proves it 100% wrong.
jul 3, 2025, 8:09 am • 0 0 • view
I don’t think it had much to do with charisma, but the mechanics of the game — the whip, the stealth, the traps in ancient temples, etc. Baker did a good job, but it’s all sort of a well worn genre now (tomb raider, uncharted, etc)
jul 3, 2025, 12:21 pm • 0 0 • view
His performance is widely praised and we're talking exclusively about Indy as a character. Why are you bringing up the rest of the game, when this is literally not what's being discussed?
jul 3, 2025, 2:10 pm • 0 0 • view
Because people are saying that a new movie will work because the game worked, and I am pointing out that the game was successful because of the game elements not the voice over performance.
jul 3, 2025, 2:18 pm • 0 0 • view
Game was successful, because it's an Indy game where all elements work, including, but not limited to Baker's performance. Replace game stuff with movie stuff and you're still left with performance that still has to be great.
jul 3, 2025, 2:21 pm • 0 0 • view
Pretty much everyone, when talking about the Great Circle, points out how well written and well acted that is. Leave the same game, but downgrade actors and plot and you won't have as much of a success, despite the core game still being amazing
jul 3, 2025, 2:22 pm • 0 0 • view
This is like saying "I don’t think it had much to do with charisma, but how the movies were made — the direction, the music, the stunt work, the special effects. Ford did a good job, but it’s all sort of a well worn (Treasure of Sierra Madre, King Solomon's Mines)"
jul 3, 2025, 2:15 pm • 0 0 • view
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jul 2, 2025, 6:44 pm • 0 0 • view
Agreed. Also, what would Disney agree to as an Artifact MacGuffin? Nothing controversial. Nothing with religious ties. And the last two (Crystal Skull, Antikythera Mechanism) didn't resonate.
jul 2, 2025, 7:42 pm • 0 0 • view
that movie defines lightning in a bottle - take out Ford and it's just another mid movie
jul 5, 2025, 2:50 pm • 0 0 • view
Also, audiences aren't turning out in droves for generic action adventure movies last I checked
jul 2, 2025, 6:26 pm • 0 0 • view
Early on, I was asked what I would do if Disney wanted to do something with my stories. Didn't hesitate. I would say no. They would trample the story, change the meaning and most of the story arcs, and the characters wouldn't resemble the ones I created. So, hmm. no.
jul 2, 2025, 4:34 pm • 1 0 • view
So lazy.
jul 2, 2025, 4:31 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes. Moreover, this wasn’t just the problem with Solo, it was the problem with almost all post-Jedi titles. Ford understood how treat the terrible dialogue in a way no one else has.
jul 2, 2025, 11:31 pm • 2 0 • view
“George, you can write this shit, but no one can say it.”
jul 3, 2025, 12:15 am • 4 0 • view
Precisely.
jul 3, 2025, 12:25 am • 0 0 • view
don’t make more Indiana Joneses… make more Harrison Fords!
jul 2, 2025, 4:49 pm • 2 0 • view
Dear Hollywood Make some new movies signed: Everyone
jul 3, 2025, 9:06 am • 6 0 • view
They won’t because the demand on return for investment makes them exceptionally risk averse. Wealth as share holding has fucked a lot of things up.
jul 3, 2025, 10:29 am • 3 0 • view
My problem with Solo is it was the distilled essence of something that annoyed me about a number of the recent movies: it's ended up a tour through all of the fanwank explanations for "plot holes" in the original movies that didn't need explanations and generally weren't even plot holes.
jul 2, 2025, 11:00 pm • 0 0 • view
But generally, yeah, you need to let movies be their own thing to an extent that the studios are too scared to do. Including a willingness to have, you know, new characters. Rogue One was so much better than Solo.
jul 2, 2025, 11:03 pm • 0 0 • view
only good part of Solo was canonizing Teras Kasai
jul 2, 2025, 4:29 pm • 10 0 • view
Disney will do everything except try new ideas.
jul 3, 2025, 12:41 am • 0 0 • view
I wonder if River Phoenix could have taken up the mantle, given his stellar performance in Last Crusade. Sad we'll never know.
jul 3, 2025, 12:48 am • 0 0 • view
There's probably a world where he gets clean or stays out of trouble and we get an Indy IV around the turn of the millennium where he plays an older Mutt. (Apparently ABC/Lucasfilm reached out to him first when putting together Young Indy, he said no.)
jul 3, 2025, 6:43 am • 0 0 • view
Im terrified, disgusted, and almost certain they will use AI instead because of that
jul 3, 2025, 6:32 am • 0 0 • view
Yeah, subtract prime-of-career Harrison Ford and all that's left is silly adventure tales contaminated by colonialism and some utterly bizarre theology.
jul 2, 2025, 6:06 pm • 1 0 • view
Solo was actually pretty good too
jul 2, 2025, 11:41 pm • 0 0 • view
What if, and I'm just spitballing here, instead of reanimating the corpse of a once successful franchise, you instead create a new IP based on the concept of the great adventures of the 1930s? I mean, The Mummy exists. It can be done. Get a rugged-looking young guy or gal and get to tomb robbing.
jul 2, 2025, 4:32 pm • 23 1 • view
On reflecting on this, one of the interesting things about Last Crusade is that Jones tells his class about the unreliability of myths and legends...when in Raiders he was present for the literal wrath of God being unleashed. Go whole hog on the supernatural! We need magic, monsters, curses, etc.
jul 2, 2025, 5:05 pm • 6 0 • view
Making Indy eat his own words is part of how they show his development/humility
jul 2, 2025, 5:36 pm • 0 0 • view
I watched it with my dad in theaters for Father's Day and it struck me as a bit weird when everyone but him is opining about the power of the grail when he was the one front row the last artifact disintegrating and eating Nazis.
jul 2, 2025, 5:45 pm • 0 0 • view
I never saw it as “eating his own words.” I saw it as a combo of “cant talk about any of the events of Raiders lest the feds come after you”
jul 2, 2025, 5:43 pm • 0 0 • view
Added to a sense of, “i’m not about to fill these students heads with the full truth of my tales as it could have the dual effect of launching dozens of amateurs into my arena competitively, and bringing down my teaching career if they think i’m crazy.”
jul 2, 2025, 5:43 pm • 0 0 • view
I thought of it as he wanted the kids to set their sights lower to weed out the ones who lacked the patience and discipline to tolerate the more boring aspects of the field. His escapades with the Ark were not representative of what his students should expect.
jul 2, 2025, 5:50 pm • 0 0 • view
One last reflection on this, Indiana Jones and the Lovecraftian Horrors was the way to go. Rugged archeologist adventurer following the trail of mystic religious relics (Raiders, Doom, Crusade) is right there! God exists, whatever was going on in Temple of Doom exists, why not more!
jul 2, 2025, 5:21 pm • 2 0 • view
I would happily at least consider buying a ticket for Indiana Jones and the Howl of Shub'niggrath.
jul 3, 2025, 8:21 am • 2 0 • view
I may be the only person in the world who wants a Willie Seabrook movie franchise
jul 2, 2025, 8:40 pm • 0 0 • view
I agree, but have you seen how Elio is doing in theaters? That’s going to make Disney shy away from original movies.
jul 2, 2025, 4:34 pm • 2 0 • view
Wow, they've really shat the bed with the marketing for that. I've got two young kids and all the algorithmic biases that suggests, and I'd never even heard of it.
jul 2, 2025, 5:28 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m seeing this sort of feeling evoked everywhere, but I’m a single adult male and I’ve seen marketing for Elio constantly. Now I do like to watch reviews and video essays on movies on YouTube, so that can be a factor but I think people just see the trailer and skip it if they can or forget about it
jul 2, 2025, 5:43 pm • 1 0 • view
There’s marketing for Elio but it gets drown out by everything else around and honestly audiences are more excited for sequels or franchise films than anything original. Minecraft and Lilo & Stitch could not make this more obvious.
jul 2, 2025, 5:44 pm • 0 0 • view
I dunno. I've never played Minecraft and neither had my son, but we both knew the film was coming out weeks in advance. Clearly Minecraft had brand awareness in its favour more generally, but it feels like Disney are more interested in creating new streaming content than cinema blockbusters.
jul 2, 2025, 5:57 pm • 1 0 • view
Yeah, but that’s not a special case for Disney. The big studios are focused on creating streaming content than blockbusters in general. Despite your anecdotal case though you admit Minecraft had general brand ubiquity in pop culture. Sinners is the standout this year.
jul 2, 2025, 7:16 pm • 1 0 • view
Sorry, is your contention that Disney have done a good job marketing Elio? Cos that what this slightly tortuous back and forth was about, right?
jul 2, 2025, 11:02 pm • 0 0 • view
think it would’ve really saved it?
jul 2, 2025, 11:16 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m saying the conversation is more nuanced. I don’t remember being as blasted with Avatar 2 marketing as I was with Elio in comparison but Avatar 2 made over $2 billion. You can say the film sells itself but that’s the point isn’t it? If Disney really went all the way with marketing with Elio you
jul 2, 2025, 11:16 pm • 0 0 • view
The risk that original IPs may flop is a real one. But here's hoping for using an unexplored IP or developing a new character that you can successfully market.
jul 2, 2025, 4:43 pm • 1 0 • view
I mean, Disney did try with Jungle Cruise featuring The Rock. Even had a Nazi villain!
jul 2, 2025, 4:48 pm • 1 0 • view
I didn't have much interest in Jungle Cruise because I heard it was based on a Disney ride and knew absolutely nothing about the story. So maybe a marketing issue?
jul 2, 2025, 4:52 pm • 2 0 • view
I think there’s maybe an industry-wide marketing issue then, because this seems to happen to literally every movie that isn’t a sequel or reboot now…
jul 2, 2025, 4:54 pm • 2 0 • view
Also, Jungle Cruise was simultaneously dumped on streaming alongside a theatrical release which has almost always resulted in box office underperformance (see The Suicide Squad).
jul 2, 2025, 5:08 pm • 1 0 • view
2020 and 2021 are outliers cause of COVID and as you stated, releasing day and date on streaming. But how about Strange World? Wish? It’s not until they released Moana 2 that a Disney animated film climbed back to the $1 billion club. Sinners is really the only success story for an original movie
jul 2, 2025, 5:40 pm • 2 0 • view
Disney is uncapable of understanding that you cant replicate the same energy of an old thing without ideas of your own, this is also why AI art is so unapealing.
jul 2, 2025, 4:50 pm • 4 0 • view
Disney clearly understands how to create a new energy from an old thing with new ideas though: Andor.
jul 3, 2025, 10:03 am • 1 0 • view
This is the problem when a role originates with an actor. Both are iconic characters and both cannot be uncoupled from Ford. (FTR I liked Solo as a movie.)
jul 2, 2025, 4:39 pm • 1 0 • view
Pedro Pascal maybe?
jul 3, 2025, 2:41 am • 0 0 • view
On a positive, there will be plenty of people lining up to dress up as Nazis.
jul 3, 2025, 9:48 am • 1 0 • view
And plenty of people keen to punch them.
jul 3, 2025, 10:17 am • 1 0 • view
Now that Disney owns both franchises, they could always turn this into a Doctor Who thing and have him regenerate into a new Indiana Jones
jul 3, 2025, 3:15 pm • 0 0 • view
They made a movie about Han Solo where Harrison Ford doesn’t play Han Solo?
jul 3, 2025, 6:51 am • 0 0 • view
River Phoenix captured it as young indy. The only person who might come close is Ryan Gosling. Fall Guy was a gem of a movie.
jul 2, 2025, 5:03 pm • 0 0 • view
Why not have Indy’s kid with HF as the grumpy dad? Is everyone in Hollywood just super fucking stupid?
jul 3, 2025, 6:50 am • 2 0 • view
Also the kid could be fighting Soviet-era Communists which could get both sides of the country to cheer him on. It is an easy peasy blockbuster.
jul 3, 2025, 9:13 am • 0 0 • view
It’s going to kill careers. They cast Wyatt Russell to play young Kurt Russell in that Godzilla show, and I think he’s good in general, but now I’m always thinking about how he doesn’t have dad’s juice.
jul 2, 2025, 7:56 pm • 1 0 • view
This right here. No legacy. No knockoffs. And why are we here helping Dis-ney with a free focus group
jul 3, 2025, 9:35 am • 0 0 • view
I feel like maybe RDJ could pull it off.
jul 2, 2025, 4:58 pm • 0 0 • view
fuck it, cast Alden Ehrenreich again
jul 2, 2025, 4:39 pm • 0 0 • view
I honestly think the lead was one of Solo’s strongest positives. The problem with Indiana Jones is not really a problem with the franchise so much as it is with Disney. They were treating it like Star Wars and Indiana Jones never got to that point of pop culture ubiquity.
jul 2, 2025, 4:38 pm • 3 0 • view
Creative exhaustion and its consumption are clear symptoms of civilizational decline.
jul 2, 2025, 4:34 pm • 0 0 • view
cast Diego Luna and i will be there on opening night at the imax showing
jul 2, 2025, 6:40 pm • 22 0 • view
this has nothing to do with how hot he is
jul 2, 2025, 6:40 pm • 10 0 • view
ok it has a little bit to do with it but he can play a rogue-ish scamp so well
jul 2, 2025, 6:40 pm • 9 0 • view
Troy Baker did an incredible job in the video game... from the physicality in the mocap to his voice, and he doesn't look too far off, especially in the vein of a grown River Phoenix (young Indy in the films); if they cast him this could actually be in the bag. His performance was outstanding.
jul 2, 2025, 8:01 pm • 0 0 • view
I don’t want to write this off simply because Harrison Ford is iconic as Indiana Jones and replacing him is some huge shoes to fill… However, I am writing it off because Disney has not been having a very good track record.
jul 2, 2025, 6:44 pm • 1 0 • view
There are so many fantastic new stories out in this huge world, Why do we need to repeat the same ones over and over. It is so dull.
jul 2, 2025, 5:39 pm • 1 0 • view
The Mummy (Brendan Fraser one) was a perfect Indiana Jones reboot, because it focused on the things that made Indiana Jones great, and not the IP. I’m not even asking for originality! Just for studios to realize you don’t need to rehash the exact same IP
jul 3, 2025, 9:57 am • 31 0 • view
The fact that we all know the investment industry term of art is "IP" is sign enough how doomed this is.
jul 3, 2025, 1:11 pm • 2 0 • view
Perfectly stated. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
jul 3, 2025, 2:28 pm • 0 0 • view
That and they've gone to the well too many times. It's a tired concept. If you are starting from scratch might as well just come up something new altogether. What else does indy need to find? Some viking relic? The fingernail of st. Christopher? Go get the arc again??
jul 2, 2025, 5:53 pm • 0 0 • view
Am old enough to have seen Raiders in the theater opening week when we all sorta said ‘OK this looks like goofy adventure fun w Han Solo, whatever’ but walked out saying Wow that was really cool Cannot just reload that now. It peaked w Ford and Connery and should’ve ended there
jul 2, 2025, 5:02 pm • 3 0 • view
Adam Driver is the closest to Harrison Ford's flavour of charisma/energy. But I don't think enough people see him as a leading man in action hero type roles.
jul 3, 2025, 4:20 pm • 0 0 • view
I don't think they should touch Indian Jones but Adam could definitely get it done.
jul 3, 2025, 6:31 pm • 0 0 • view
Why don't they just try making new things? Either by picking up original scripts or by adapting something that's never been touched before. I would love to see new Fantasy movies, get creative. Make a Thundarr the Barbarian movie or Elric of Melnibone.
jul 2, 2025, 11:29 pm • 0 0 • view
With the added difficulty that it’s a comparison not out of the blue.
jul 3, 2025, 10:27 am • 0 0 • view
This problem gets illustrated perfectly in The Great Circle (videogame). It is phenomenal, and among my favourite stories about Indy. But the thing is that they managed this by recreating a 80s Indy movie so faithfully that it almost passes as one. Exactly the opposite as a reboot.
jul 2, 2025, 4:56 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m honestly so annoyed that movie killed Alden Ehrenreich’s career for years, he’s such a good actor.
jul 2, 2025, 4:40 pm • 3 0 • view
It'll probably be the vapid Chalamet.
jul 2, 2025, 5:59 pm • 0 0 • view
They also just made an Indy without Spielberg and it REALLY shows (I am not his burner account)
jul 2, 2025, 5:11 pm • 1 0 • view
Ford has a particularly scruffy, unpolished charisma that is by definition not something you can fake
jul 2, 2025, 5:51 pm • 5 0 • view
What's such a tragedy about Solo is that Dong Lover's Lando was incredible.
jul 2, 2025, 6:41 pm • 0 0 • view
I don't think a successful indy reboot is impossible the walt disney corporation making one absolutely is though
jul 2, 2025, 4:45 pm • 0 0 • view
And yet, if they lean into Indiana Jones's Nazi-punching, I'll allow it.
jul 2, 2025, 4:52 pm • 7 0 • view
My thing about the solo comparison is that Solo was actually a great film and had the makings for a good sequel, the fan backlash from the toxic parts led to people thinking more people hating it than was really true I think there's consensus at this point it was a huge mistake to take it seriously
jul 2, 2025, 5:13 pm • 0 0 • view
The theory now is 1. enough kids haven’t seen Ford 2. Glen Powell can pull it off If they have the right script they might not be wrong because Powell is funny & likeable
jul 3, 2025, 7:20 am • 0 0 • view
If they did an animated streaming series using the models/actors from The Great Circle, I’d be ok with that. A live-action reboot is doomed to fail, though.
jul 2, 2025, 5:43 pm • 1 0 • view
One wonders what the world would be like if they didn't have to re-cast after Tom Selleck had scheduling issues
jul 3, 2025, 3:27 pm • 0 0 • view
I think you could say the same thing about Sean Connery and James Bond, but they managed. We don't associate the character with any one actor anymore, but that's because they've had half a dozen actors play him, something that's treated as heretical with Indiana Jones
jul 2, 2025, 7:26 pm • 1 0 • view
Diego Luna and Pedro Pascal are both great casting ideas, Chris Pine is good too. For the franchise to have legs, they need to be willing to let the actor inhabit their own version of the character, and not just imitate Harrison Ford.
jul 2, 2025, 7:35 pm • 0 0 • view
They did however manage to recreate the charisma of Lando Calrissian, because god damn did Donald Glover deliver the sex appeal in that movie.
jul 3, 2025, 10:56 am • 17 0 • view
%100 agree. He made the role. I would also add that Indi would run into the same issue Lightyear did; modern movie storytelling doesn't lend itself well to pulp hero type narratives. Hollywood just isn't great/ interested at creating down the line modernist movies anymore (not a bad thing).
jul 3, 2025, 3:33 am • 0 0 • view
Chris Pine? Or, and hear me out, now, maybe we could just make some new things?
jul 2, 2025, 9:34 pm • 5 0 • view
hey did you know - did you know, get this, that Indiana Jones does not depict best ethical practices w/archeology?
jul 2, 2025, 5:18 pm • 2 0 • view
If they want a new franchise, send some charismatic hottie out to return all the artifacts to their rightful origins. Indie in Reverse.
jul 3, 2025, 9:46 am • 0 0 • view
“Those marbles belong in a museum!” - Thomas Bruce, 7th Earl of Elgin, apocryphally
jul 2, 2025, 5:20 pm • 2 0 • view
Bring back Ehrenreich I sez. Make this his thing now.
jul 2, 2025, 5:06 pm • 3 0 • view
"but I want to enjoy a rich, rewarding career as a professional actor" "put on the hat!"
jul 2, 2025, 5:07 pm • 5 0 • view
::under duress:: “I didn’t kill my wife!”
jul 2, 2025, 5:10 pm • 2 0 • view
"get off my paycheck! I mean plane, plane, sorry guys I blew it."
jul 2, 2025, 5:13 pm • 3 0 • view
First off, they can’t be short.
jul 2, 2025, 6:22 pm • 0 0 • view
I thought they had a decent shot at making it work when there were rumors of Nathan Fillion starring in the reboot. He might be able to pull it off still, but it would've been ideal before they went ahead with the last two films.
jul 2, 2025, 5:12 pm • 3 0 • view
Not a chance in hell that would ever work. Fillion is dull as dishwater.
jul 3, 2025, 9:50 am • 1 0 • view
Nathan Fillion has a reputation of being a Diva, a consummate professional on-camera, but an absolute sh*t off-camera to any co star he took a dislike too. I doubt that Disney would risk the negative publicity (and possible recasting).
jul 3, 2025, 3:56 am • 4 0 • view
Ugh, screw that guy. Fillion is way to far up his own ass
jul 3, 2025, 1:15 pm • 0 0 • view
Remember when Shia LeBeouf was going to take over the Indy franchise? Yeah... That wasn't good.
jul 2, 2025, 7:14 pm • 1 0 • view
Pedro Pascal can fix this
jul 3, 2025, 6:23 am • 62 0 • view
De-aged Harrison Ford is still hot though.
jul 3, 2025, 6:25 am • 0 0 • view
He can fix ANYTHING. He’s humankind’s daddy.
jul 3, 2025, 6:30 am • 6 0 • view
I think the best ways to do this are 1) not at all and 2) animated. Crazier on the visuals, and the comparisons basically disappear automatically. (I know there's no way they'll do that, but I can dream, right?)
jul 3, 2025, 7:17 pm • 0 0 • view
The juxtaposition of “why the f*ck am I here/are we doing this” discomfort with an absolute ease in his own skin & innate sexual charisma (a cringe phrase but alas, some people do in fact Have It) is something you simply cannot teach, imitate, or replicate.
jul 2, 2025, 10:53 pm • 1 0 • view
In fact now that I think about it, I think Pedro Pascal’s ability to play filthy, exasperated, while winking a bit at the whole thing is probably our “modern” equivalent, and a lot of that is more his offscreen persona than onscreen.
jul 2, 2025, 10:54 pm • 1 0 • view
I'm not saying anyone can recreate it, but I am saying this: give me weekly installments of someone, ANYONE, with a scintilla of charisma beating the shit out of nazis and I will watch it every week. I will put my family, baby included, in front of the TV.
jul 3, 2025, 10:17 am • 12 0 • view
Congratulations! We already (kinda) made that: The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles - Wikipedia share.google/3pdYXaX4wEGg...
jul 3, 2025, 10:41 am • 5 0 • view
Middle School nostalgia is calling.
jul 3, 2025, 2:20 pm • 1 0 • view
Just make a new goddamn IP. What the fuck
jul 2, 2025, 4:45 pm • 3 0 • view
At least I'm grateful they're trying. I loved Phoebe Waller-Bridge in the last Indy movie, and I think she could take over as Indiana, something like "Helena Shaw and the jade bracelet" and in smaller letters "An Indiana Jones movie". Different character, same saga, same vibes.
jul 2, 2025, 5:21 pm • 1 0 • view
If they want to keep Indiana, Chris Pratt is my candidate.
jul 2, 2025, 5:21 pm • 0 0 • view
wasnt the whole jist (gyst?) that no one else wouldevwr play IJ?
jul 3, 2025, 6:49 am • 1 0 • view
No one’s remembers the adventures of young Indiana Jones. Uncharted is corrupted because of Wahlberg
jul 2, 2025, 10:48 pm • 0 0 • view
I do, it was mid
jul 3, 2025, 12:14 am • 2 0 • view
Totally and they were on budget
jul 3, 2025, 12:15 am • 0 0 • view
I would watch Michael Caine as Indiana Jones if all the other characters were Muppets.
jul 3, 2025, 3:37 pm • 5 0 • view