a lot has been made of the fact that younger voters don’t view Trump as “abnormal” because he has dominated the scene for their entire political lives that’s true but it swings both ways, “only centrism can save you” isn’t compelling to those people
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We’re drowning in centrism.
jul 8, 2025, 4:32 am • 6 0 • view
The first presidential election for a person turning 30 this year was 2016. Younger means under 30.
jul 8, 2025, 2:41 am • 4 0 • view
I see Trump as a continuation of Reaganism with innovative new marketing strategies. (His messaging is not morally acceptable, but it is effective.)
jul 8, 2025, 3:35 am • 3 0 • view
Also for those of us coming of adult age around “Feel the Bern,” as cringe as it might have been, it gave us hope that better things were necessary AND possible. Corporate centrism as a counter to Trumpism just never had the juice.
jul 8, 2025, 2:23 am • 9 0 • view
A note to all my fellow millennials: If this shit works on you, you need to fucking hand your card in right the fuck now. We saw post 9/11 We saw in real time the weaponization of the state against a minority using "appropriate" language This is the same thing, just pointed at A N Y AND A L L OF US
jul 8, 2025, 3:00 am • 7 0 • view
"Going back to how things were before" doesn't work when your main memory of "how things were before" was Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Great Recession.
jul 8, 2025, 2:21 am • 25 0 • view
"Whose Before are we talking about here - a lot of you fuckers running for President and Office lived back when the N word was acceptable"
jul 8, 2025, 12:59 pm • 1 0 • view
I've been told about the days when the oysters were so plentiful they paved roads with the shells and the crabs were <$100 a bushel, when people were fundamentally In This Together and could pull through if we believed in each other. Those days had ended before I was born.
jul 8, 2025, 5:22 pm • 1 0 • view
In the 2010 economy...
jul 8, 2025, 6:45 am • 0 0 • view
I read a post from some Zoomer saying, "We can't afford to go out like millennials in 2010," which, what
jul 8, 2025, 6:45 am • 4 0 • view
"We can return to the Clinton years if we all vote for the candidate that says Better Things Aren't Possible, The Status Quo Is The Best You Get" loses its potency when the only reference for "the status quo" your voters have is "the feckless cowards that directly led to the enshittification of now"
jul 8, 2025, 5:28 pm • 7 1 • view
right now folks are getting bipartisaned into the camps so yeah centrism needs to die
jul 8, 2025, 6:11 am • 12 0 • view
TBF, centrism hasn't saved us for decades and people still vote for it somehow.
jul 16, 2025, 11:59 pm • 0 0 • view
If you weren't of voting age in 2008 do you even remember a time when political vibes were good?
jul 8, 2025, 2:32 am • 7 0 • view
No
jul 8, 2025, 5:23 pm • 0 0 • view
You know who else has been around for the political lives of a lot of young voters? AOC.
jul 8, 2025, 2:04 am • 121 2 • view
#BeTheChange
jul 8, 2025, 3:10 am • 7 0 • view
I think the biggest shift on this I feel is that for people who got to experience the economic booms pre the 2000s have always been chasing that again while the amount of people who never did keeps growing. You can't sell "Back to the good old days" to people who never had them.
jul 8, 2025, 3:07 pm • 7 0 • view
More and more adults who never lived in a world pre 9-11 are entering the voting pool. More people who's entire lives have been marked by political abuse and don't have the fear the older generation has of "Losing what they have" When you're broke no matter what, might as well swing for the stars.
jul 8, 2025, 3:10 pm • 7 0 • view
"Centrism" is pretty much what got you Biden and Harris (both right-centre). And they couldn't stop the fascists.
jul 8, 2025, 10:26 am • 7 0 • view
*wouldn't *didn't *couldn't be bothered to
jul 8, 2025, 12:57 pm • 2 0 • view
I'm pretty sure Hitler got more grief for the Beer Hall Putsch than the Republicans did for J6
jul 8, 2025, 5:15 pm • 2 0 • view
Yep. And calls for 'bipartisanship' and 'to reach across the aisle' strike them as futile. There's also (and not just among young people) a growing frustration for Red States who depend on Blue States for funding yet crap all over the latter's values.
jul 8, 2025, 12:39 pm • 13 0 • view
young people are ready to woke 2-uah the polls
jul 8, 2025, 2:12 am • 14 0 • view
Pretty clearly it won't. (I'm Gen X.)
jul 8, 2025, 2:28 am • 1 0 • view
Let's stop being the problem then, shall we?
jul 8, 2025, 4:04 am • 6 0 • view
Which we and which problem?
jul 8, 2025, 11:08 am • 0 0 • view
Gen X cynically dismissing all hope or even making an effort, whatever, nevermind
jul 8, 2025, 4:30 pm • 2 0 • view
Vote for me. I will return you to a time you don't remember and that led you here. This is the best we can imagine.
jul 8, 2025, 3:41 am • 12 0 • view
Taking the middle road is what got us Trump again. Problems not being solved. Inaction. Watered down half measures that made no one happy. Unhappy people want bold candidates, who bring real change.
jul 8, 2025, 6:58 am • 12 0 • view
People (young esp.) tend to vote when things are exciting or personally matter, not in some neoliberal "micro-adjust the heading of the ship" way. Look at state elections where things like abortion, legal weed, etc. were on the ballot. People want CHANGE, not different flavors of the same old shit.
jul 8, 2025, 3:23 am • 8 0 • view