there’s a decent chance they release some completely fabricated epstein file and get caught out on it immediately, right? that absolutely seems like something that might happen
there’s a decent chance they release some completely fabricated epstein file and get caught out on it immediately, right? that absolutely seems like something that might happen
That's what I think the plan is. But, it's hard for them to decide who to actually put on the list and make sure it can almost be substantiated.
Yes. Very much so.
and then, and then, and then…..
ChatGPT, please make me a plausible looking secret FBI file implicating the following people…
Yes! #TrumpEpsteinPressure
It’s taking a lot longer than they expected, because they are total incompetents whose only skillz are namecalling and complaining.
well, they've kind of done that, haven't they? By releasing the doctored video footage of his cell. Raising even more, and more severe questions. This is all as phony as his ear getting shot off.
Is this the first time a case has been closed because there’s too much evidence.
If it were up to Trump, I’m sure he would throw every copy of the Epstein files into a shredder and then burned.
Makes perfect nonsense to me, it is what they do. Hope some astute DOJ employee made a copy of what was in those files and they are stashed away for safe keeping.
The Biden administration, the fbi, Jack Smith....anyone. I really hope these people had the foresight to preserve some of these documents knowing what would happen. I sure hope so.
Yep
At this point I don't even think there's any way around it. He's gotta release something because his people are getting mad, and his administration is full of idiots so it's going to be an obvious fraud.
They'll just redact everything of interest except for throwing one Republican and a few Democrats over the bus.
The video was already shown to be heavily edited with Adobe Premiere, so would anything else be worse? I'd say they'll lose credibility, but they started out with none.
On the list of people he tries to fuck over: Rosie O'Donnell, Hilary Clinton, Kirsten Stewart, Elon Musk
At this point I think they could release real documents and the weirdos wouldn't trust it after all this
Truth or fake, it doesn’t matter anymore, the conspiracy machine will eat it and spit out vibes.
Why am I a weirdo for not trusting anything this administration says or does? They lie constantly, and show no remorse. Why would I believe they'll just stop lying?
"this administration " I love how you think pedophillic politicians being protected by the ruling class is a partisan act lmao.
What the fuck are you talking about? I just meant they're the people in power. The administration.
Yeah, THIS administration... As opposed to... Brother, if you can't put that together Idk what to tell you
You're still sane. At this point that *does* make you part of a minority of people in the USA.
What's really funny is technically I'm not, and I'm still saner than the majority of our population 😭
Maybe. But there’s this thing called corroborating evidence.
They’ll generate a fake one with ChatGPT and still accidentally leave a reference to Trump un-redacted.
I honestly don't know why they didn't have miller and yarvin start working on a fake one the day after election day. Seems like a complete no brainer
They will use "find and replace" to change Trump to Obama.
Might?
it’s why Kash has been staying late, since they can’t use Grok
It's going to be as fake as Albrego Garcia's photoshopped gang tattoo. bsky.app/profile/cris...
That's literally what happened every time they try to do a spin in real time. A faucet leaks less than this admin.
Office Depot truck spotted at White House dropping off construction paper and crayons
WIRED is certainly on the case. They already proved the video was edited
Do you mean, like, releasing video recordings that shows signs of possibly being doctored as if the people they're releasing it *to* aren't maniacally checking for exactly that kind of thing?
Given that they've already been caught having edited the cellblock video footage, odds are 100% they'll try to do it again.
Don't give them any ideas..I actually wondered why they hadn't already
The list might not exist. The list might be the reason that Epstein is dead, to avoid depositions that would've revealed customers. If it exists it's very unlikely that you could trust Trump to expose it without manipulation. But Trump trolling his idiot supporters for years about it, MAGA is mad.
Mad as in angry or mad as in crazy? 😅 Cause MAGA will never be angry mad enough to turn on him as a whole. He & his people will release a fake list eventually enough & they'll eat that shit up as they always do & find an excuse for the belated release.
You're right. Generally the exit for a cult member is Kool aid or group destruction. People don't just stop being Moonies and just walk away from the cult. It becomes too intertwined into their self perception. Most of these people will be true MAGA for the rest of their lives.
If you remember Jonestown, the decision by Jim Jones to kill all his followers was triggered by a congressional investigation by Sen. Leo Ryan. Cults survive killing, propaganda, & corruption but they never survive the cult members being definitively shown that their cult leader is lying to them.
I wouldn’t take that bet.
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if it was released in crayon.
If he did put in some sort of effort and created that list, I bet he would win some of the voters back. They are looking for something/anything.
Cue the AI.
At this point, the amount of denial and back-and-forth going on makes me expect that there's more than just names and dates. It's the worst attempt at a cover-up by the worst people
Netanyahu has copies of the files and all the tapes. It's the basis of AIPAC. Epstein was a Mossad Honey Pot operation.
I still think Musk might have it too. If it was ever in the system, he probably saw it all.
Gonna zappruder film this shit
I feel like we’ve watched every single presidential administration discover after the fact that metadata is a thing.
100% a word doc comes out with Pam Bondi listed as the author in the properties or something equally stupid.
Also, track changes was left on with notes like "S. Miller: This section should have more dems- Gavin Newsom???"
Why would Obama and Hillary put their own name on this list three times?
"Here's a copy of the files we just said five minutes ago do not even exist and look, Trump isn't in it at all, but every single person who's ever pissed him off magically IS in there!"
You know I didn't think about that until you said it, but it does seem like a guarantee at this point, right? 🤷♂️
They might be buying time to do precisely that.
It will be redacted to leave out all the names of Republicans, including Donald Trump.
What I was thinking too! Bunch of damn liars
Or, someone gets ahold of a misfiled case, that gives a small idea of what the rest looks like. Make a noise to reps and senators.
Absolutely!
Maybe he'll use a sharpie
I mean, At this point, if they do release a file, no one will believe it’s real unless Trump is all over it. So, I don’t know that we will ever know the truth.
What would that even look like? The baying masses are crying for a "client list", but there's no reason to think he ever kept one. The FBI seized all those DVDs that clearly had famous men having sex/assaulting with teenagers, so I guess they could compile a list from that...
except a) since Epstein was 100% working for the CIA, Mossad, or both, the FBI wouldn't have been allowed to even keep the files, and b) not that it really matters, but the men on those tapes aren't clients (even if they thought they were initially) - they're blackmail victims.
Anyway, I suppose that's a little orthogonal to the main point, as it just dismisses the possibility that any real "client list" could be released, but a fake one couldn't either. We know dozens of famous & powerful people who repeatedly flew on the Lolita Express or visited Little Saint James.
If you leave them off a fake list, then it's self-evidently fake. If you put them on the list, then it isn't exactly fake, is it?
You could leave a few of his secret blackmail victims off, or put some additional fake ones on...except powerful and famous people can generally prove they were somewhere else.
Been so much will they, won't they, does it exist, doesn't it, is he on it, isn't he, that whatever does get released half the world will not believe what it says.
Prob with the whole supremacy mindset is the whole underestimating your opponents thing
So far each fuck-up has been a lesson in hubris
Release or Resign. #releaseorresign Get this trending on X.
No because they don’t want a release it and even releasing a fake one is doing what someone tells them to do They can’t release it all they can do is smirk and say cry harder wokie brokie
Doctored video
They'll just post a list of DNC attendees, with the header scribbled out and "epsteinz budz" written in marker beside it
"Here's a list we found. It's true we're gonna prosecute all the people on it." "It's his shopping list. You just scribbled people's first names on it." "No we didn't, we arrest Jon Hamm at midnight."
A Democrat should release a phony one implicating Trump and a bunch of VC tech bros and watch them all spontaneously decompose
💯
They ran out of reacting ink to hide Trumps name and now the pages are mostly redacted.
we are 100% going to get some "let's delve into the evidence" ChatGPT-forged "fine, here's the list, please stop bothering us"
Guaranteed. Theyre gonna slide us a napkin that says "bill clinton, and not donald trump"
I would say at this point it's likely given the video release, and the rate at which the MAGAs are turning on him.
Honestly if this gets people to turn on him out of actual principle that’s… well it isn’t nothing
And then Maxwell will die before she can contradict it
Or be pardoned.
Most likely! This might go on for a while....
I'm surprised the Trump regime doesn't simply delete his name from the list then release it. You'd think they'd want to do this if Clinton is on the list. Or, they could put Clinton and other MAGA enemies on the list. Personally, I wouldn't trust the list even if it was released.
They’re gonna ChatGPT it.
They’re gonna ChatGPT the Epstein files. You know they are.
I think Trump's going to threaten Rogan et al in some way behind the scenes and force them back to tow the party line. Once the man-o-sphere switches back everyone else will fall in line.
and then accidentally text the real one to the editor of Teen Vogue.
Ok that’s lol.
Better hurry before Bezos buys and kills it.
That’s my theory. They’re working frantically to redact Trump from the files, but it’s gotta look real. The edited prison tape—the trial balloon—bombed.
Betting on a fake Epstein file drop feels like betting the sun will rise chaotic, predictable, and shameless.
Since they don't understand metadata yeah they will get busted real quick.
They already released prison footage with four edit rounds to it by somebody with Adobe Premiere Pro, and didn’t think or know how to fabricate the metadata to cover that up. They’re absurd.
honestly surprised that wasn’t the first angle they took
All he needs is a Sharpie
Also, while the dems probably think it below them (or uncomfortable) to keep pushing this i’m sure that the Russian troll farms will have no such hesitations. If Trump keeps breaking for Ukraine things can get very spicy in the unhinged parts of social media. Something something the storm.
Just think how funny it would be if some intel guy has to report to Trump that a bunch of this Epstein crazies are Russian disinfo peddlers. He might nuke the Kremlin.
They already did that with the video, so I expect them to clumsily replace "Donald Trump" in the documents with either Clinton or Obama or Biden and get caught again...
It’ll have a list. And then at the bottom in sharpie, “Definetely not Trump on list. He good man who always turned down gerls I offerred.”
They desperately want to do that. But they can’t because others know and they’ll be called out. They created their own monster
Knowing this White House they’ll have ChatGPT write a fake report and it’ll be filled with nonexistent judges, prosecutors, witnesses, and case law citations, and somewhere in it the original text of their prompt telling it to write the whole thing without mentioning Trump.
This will happen most likely. But like the jail video will be created by fallible people.
With how shambolic the Trump administration is, I can see that happening with the Epstein files. Some of his base might swallow it, but hopefully this Epstein stuff will just continue to cause trouble for him.
I’m low level concerned this is a weird double cross rope a dope
Yeah I'll be mogadored if they don't.
Yup. Probably putting together their list of Dems right now. And then when they're called out as bogus, they'll say it's fake news. And their little magats will believe them and all will be right with the world again. So special.🤢
They'll just have the chatbot do it.
Some DOGE boy likely hopped onto Adobe InDesign last week and got to work on it. Or, when they heard "Client LIST" they probably thought Excel was the way to go. I'd watch for names like Chris P. Bacon and I.P. Freely, among others.
Oh yeah someone without a brain or morals will write one and guess who WON’T be on it?
They’ll use ChatGPT and that’s how they’ll get caught
who needs a list when there is an interview bsky.app/profile/redl...
Early on in the admin I assumed they'd just released doctored files and no one would notice or care and MAGA would be happy about it, but as I've watched them fail at basic believable lying time and time again I'm realizing that doctoring a file might be too high a bar...
There has to be a whistleblower in the woodwork. There just has to be. This would be a great time for an Epstileaks batch of evidence to hit the web. Is there anyone out there… Elon?
I assume that’s what the fight between Bondi and Patel is now. She at least is sort of a real lawyer with a desire to keep her bar license and not cool with wild fabrication and Patel already has made up a list with a bunch of Democrats and some guys who were mean to him in middle school on it
Oh with how the government is reliant on AI to do its bidding now? Absolutely. All anyone needs to do is ask ChatGPT to generate a fake list.
I just came here to say this, they'll just ChatGPT it
With this crew of dumbf*ck’s in charge, anything nefarious is possible. 🤦🏻♀️
I think that’s what they will do . Missing pages or something stupid
I'm trying to game out how they'll respond and they're really in the teeth of it. They can't possibly release the real thing.
It's definitely possible. It's kind of like Occam's Razor, the dumbest possible option is what Trump is going to do.
Seems likely for sure. But somebody somewhere actually knows or has something. It'll come out eventually, as if we don't already have plenty of probable cause to believe the worst
Maybe somebody is blackmailing someone
If they are, it's a very deep well. Well never find out.
That would be just like them to vehemently deny it exists & then release a fake one. MAGA falls for everything.
Our best hope has always been that their incompetence would outstrip their malice.
I will bet real actual money that it is chatgpt and includes shit like "a knife, a knife, a knife, a knife"
Yep 👍
depending on your point of view, this might have already happened twice
Honestly even if they release it now, I won't believe it. Trump will at least scrub his name from it, and I'm sure a few of his buddies.
They can't release the list, it's in a box, in a bathroom, surrounded by big ocean.
Well, a definite tell is if it's written with a Sharpie.
Omg! Can you imagine?😂😂
Why doesn't one of the people with valid proof make history, be in the history books forever, and just break it all out?? At some point that's got to be worth more than anything else keeping them quiet.
they ARE just that level of incompetent, i can see them even now rushing around to put in the fix but… i also think it’s going to be transparent af
I’m surprised they didn’t try that first- lazy.
It will have: - ZERO people ever involved with Trump - A list of people that have criticised Trump - Democrats, but no Republicans (Unless they are loudly anti-Trump)
Even if he blames Bondi/Patel/Bongino for it, MAGA will want them fired and the only expectation for their replacements will be “release the full list”. But now he’s saying the list is fake and comparing it to Russiagate? That implies he thinks Epstein is innocent.
Honestly I am surprised this was not step 1, a made up list that more or less consisted of his political adversaries.
He could have done that and it would have worked
Because it wouldn't have drawn as much attention. How many posts have you seen today demanding the release of the Epstein files? I lost count. I did count two Trump trollbots whose posts randomly appeared in my feed though. Blocked but I complained to Blue Sky about it after the second one.
Imagine if they ask AI to reproduce the Epstein files without any mention of Trump.
They will probably use ChatGPT cause that’s how they do things
"TO AMERICA. I, the late, great Jeffrey Epstein, have written this file to expose the very unfair Criminals who were friends with me! This is the List!! Every Democrat and foreigner was on my big, beautiful island. SAD! Trump was not, he is a GREAT MAN!! Thank you for your attention to this matter!"
probably being typed up right now
Release or not... he is / they are really in big trouble...
BINGO
It'll be Ghislane's black book, with obviously missing pages, LMAO
Yup, first thing that crossed my mind when they started backpedaling was, "Uh, ohhhhh, they're freaked about this and Trump is panic-tweeting... now they'll start editing and shredding," and... well... it may already have happened. From this point on, I won't trust anything they release.
Probably at it as you wrote
Please be an AI generated file ... please be an AI generated file ... please be an AI generated file ...
funniest possible situation here is that they’re telling the truth and there really aren’t any files and nobody will ever believe them and they’re stuck between making something up and doubling down on “no files” forever
Truly the most Glonzo possible scenario.
I honestly believe this is a real possibility. There is no formal list. But they have lied so much about it, they have painted themselves into a corner. So yea, I agree with your thoughts on the outcome. And if they try to produce a fake list, 100% they will get caught for making it up.
That’s the Rod Serling version, for sure
That's the downside of fabricating stories and feeding them as fact to gullible supporters.
YES
Fully expect this
occams razor!
There is a solid 10% chance that this is the case.
Imagine there really are no Epstein files, and they’re stuck in a credibility black hole because we all assume they’re lying. That’s the price of decades of bullshit. Peak karmic irony.
See I thought that could be a possibility until the idiot "Truthed" that rant were he blamed Hillary and Obama and said that the list was directly an attack against him. NOW i think that theres more then just a list .
Judging by all their dynamics and by Trump's dynamics he's 100% going to keep doubling down because so far his methods have worked consistently with spiting his own voters and he's had no reason to change that.
There are no files but Trump thinks there are and keeps Streisanding himself to prevent the release of nothing or close to nothing
Biden's dog ate my Epstein files
Didn’t this basically already happen with the tape? They still messed it up because the missing footage which has a benign explanation but they just assumed they’d be believed with no issue?
I suspect this is actually the truth. They've been flogging this imaginary bullshit for years, and their hideous lack of organization finally led them to very publicly contradict themselves. Their incoherent attempts at damage control are only making things worse.
i literally don't see a way out of this for them
Funniest possible sutuation is they release a badly doctored version that accidentally leaves in a bunch of people they meant to remove but fucked up
they'll use grok, so in addition to keeping some real names it'll add like... Sportacus, Edward Cullen, and all the characters from Entourage
Sharpie modifications. Cross outs and write-ins in LARGE CAPS.
They'll use ai and it will do an ai job about it
Okay, we all need to manifest this scenario in any way we can.
They triumphantly release video of Bill and Hillary sipping wine coolers with Epstein on his island. They shout it to the high heavens that this is the smoking gun, but miss that 6 minutes in, Donald Trump wanders aimlessly across the background of the shot in boxer shorts.
Bonus points if they leave it so that someone with the ability to leak an unredacted version is included on the one they publish
There is 100% chance they are too incompetent to redact correctly.
What’s hilarious is that whatever is in the files is almost certainly benign but too dense or boring for maga to read, so upon their release they will just look around in a panic and decide they must be fake or altered Which we should absolutely encourage
This is so likely it’s shameful.
Nonzero chance they try to say Zohran’s dad was on the island
I'm skeptical. The regime's going with "it was suicide and there is no client list," so if they then released a list, even a real one, they'd be admitting that they covered it up.
Yup. Again, why we need to keep demanding that list.
Micah, they had hundreds of probably now disgruntled fbi agents pour over the files for redactions, its not an if. And that's before we have victims come out of the woodwork to say hey they are covering up what happened to me.
The moment bondi pulled hundreds of agents off of duty to pour over the Epstein materials is the moment she lost any ability to compartmentalize it.
It’s always the bumbling of the cover up.
Since it seems they are messing with the video, sure they are trying to fake something right now
I think what’s going to happen is that they will release names of democrats and say that’s the full file. No matter how they respond people want to see blood. The longer they hold out the more angry his base will become. Expect them to continue lying.
Surely Big Balls is on the case
em dashes everywhere
Yes, and if it happens I expect it to be comical what’s in it, but diehards will believe
It’ll be like Bill Clinton Joe Biden Barack Obama Jimmy Carter Al Gore Zohran Mamdani
AI Epstein
They did release a doctored feed of Epstein's cell so this is the logical next move
Yes. And regardless of how quickly it's debunked, the MAGAverse will soak it up and scream we told you so.
That's where this is going for sure!
Honestly they should have done that in the first place. That’s where you see the laziness lol