Neither has a political future now. There's no political market for what they are selling. I live in Michigan. Was a big Big Gretch fan. Gave $2k to MI D candidates in '24. Marched on the 5th. I feel so betrayed by Whitmer, Peters, and Slotkin that I don't plan to support Ds in the midterms.
Voting for the GOP?
... or just not voting ... I am hearing that alot lately ...
Not voting is like not getting a cast on a broken leg. Yes, it might get better if you don’t move around, but chances are you inhibit your own range of motion & end up in pain.
Yup. This is the big problem facing MI Ds again. They refuse to acknowledge it and change course. Worse they misread Trump's win as a need to win Trump voters as opposed to winning ant-MAGA. The marches last weekend should have been a wake up call. CC: @slotkin.senate.gov, @debbiedingell.house.gov
There's no GOP...only MAGA...so no :/ I think this is what breaks so many "I miss my Dad's GOP" Democrats. They want the political environment to be something it's not where they can look serious by being bipartisan. 1/3
That's a cartoon version of things that I hear too often from young people
Are you saying that I am describing a cartoon and that I'm young or naive?
I don't know anything about you as a person. What I'm saying is that the #NeverDem movement has a cartoon view in which they understand what MAGA are but the people who deal every day all day w/it are too clueless to see what the #NeverDem kids claim to deeply understand
I'm not a kid and not a never dem. I do expect success and will no longer let my vote be taken for granted. Additionally, I am certain that I am more familiar with MAGA, Dark Enlightenment, Christian Nationalist and their precedent movements such as the John Birch Society than most.
In politics if the fascists are willing to vote for someone they consider flawed but useful, while their opposition will only vote for perfection, the fascists win every time #NeverDem is a classic GOP vote-suppression op
Fascism takes root when a compliant opposition becomes collaborators and gives the fascist movement a vaneer of normalcy. Hannah Arendt and Timothy Snyder write well about this. Being willing and able to fight is not perfection. It's table stakes for my vote and my money.
No they didn't lol Arendt wrote about civil servants (what you maga types call the deep state) doing their job w/o questioning the job itself or its outcomes Snyder writes about obeying in advance -- what NYT and WaPo did, e.g., in fellating Trump and attacking/silencing his political opponents
I should mention as well that fascism takes root when the opposition has been weakened by losing votes
Lol indeed. That's a sadly shallow read of both of them. Chapter 2 of On Tyranny is literally about defending institutions with a chilling warning of what happens when the opposition goes along to get along. MAGA? I gave $3k to Ds in '24 and marched 3x in the last month. Good luck to you in life.
They cannot accept that, at best, the other party is a personality cult of a man who paints his face orange. At worst, the other party is a fascist, theocratic movement. They are incapable of accepting and reacting effectively to the reality of the moment. 2/3
I will vote for any candidate who supports the Constitutional order, the rule of law, human rights, public health, science, and national security that fights for liberal democracy globally. It would also help if they are authentically a good person. 3/3
That may be shooting yourself in both feet. Voting isn’t a statement, it is a choice between available options. 30% of voters choosing not to vote is how we got Trump & GOP in power. Perhaps run for something yourself or find someone to support.
Or convince the party that I have supported not to take me for granted. Americans like fighters. It's what Ds cannot or will not understand. They want the old political environment and are not adapting. @runforsomething.net and @indivisible.org are trying to change things. I'm unelectable.
It is going to take more than refusing to vote. Gathering people to pressure the party & those in office can work. Tactical visits to offices with video can be effective. Convincing an entire party is done person by person.
Thus working with others as pissed off as I am and voting with my donations. I have been to three events in MI in the last month, including the march in Detroit. Nobody there wants bipartisanship or more talk. They want action. Ds ignore that energy at their peril.
Blah blah...she has no choice! She has to go with the constituents that voted him in...don't know why they did... and honestly don't believe they did vote for Satan... but here we are #WerePhucked