Roosevelt refused to negotiate conditional surrender.

Bingo!

I don’t recall them keeping parts of France or Belgium or any other Country they invaded either.

Fairly sure both were occupied & Germany, awa its capital, Berlin, were divided. Taught in all kinds of history classes, starting with eighth grade. #LearnHistory

I'm not so sure red states teach this any longer. I'm not sure they teach anything of history.

Or being give any places they hadn't invaded.

On the contrary.

Those who win the war write the history.

Gee, that doesn't sound very negotiationesque.

Is it a negotiation is one side gets everything they want and the other side gets squat?

That seems to be what Trump believes.

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Yeah it’s the American negotiation.

Or an atom bomb?

The only thing that were “negotiated” were details about how to implement a ceasefire on land, air and sea and the organization of surrender of troops and material.The Japanese managed to keep their emperor since they considered him “holy”.I don’t know if the US offered this, or if it was negotiated

Keeping him in "power" was negotiated yes.

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What does Newsom's self-evident midlife crisis have to do with anything?

Couch rapier Vance says Ukraine and Russia as all wars end in negotiations? Vance made that up, like I suspect I know where he got that, where he keeps his head.

Given his dictatorial style and enormous ego, Trump probably considers defeat with unconditional surrender as being “negotiation”. (As would Putin)

Hitler and Hirohito are rolling over….

Parts of is now Germany and France, have been shifting between them and also sovereign states at times. Most known is Saarland, who joined in voluntarily to West-Germany in '47. Besides that, all terrotiry seized in Europe was done by Soviet Union. With force and suppression.

We aktchwuallyy rejoined two times, both times after we chose so ourselves by referendums: - 1935 when Germany was the Third Reich and we were a League of Nations Mandate - and 1955/56 when Germany was a the democratic Federal Republic and we where part autonomic and part under french authority.

Well Russia actually did!

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But the USSR kept Poland, Baltic states, Hungary, Slavic states, half of Germany etc. Now that those countries managed independence from Russian control, this time Russia is acting out the part played by Nazi Germany.

Germany didn't even get to keep all of Germany...

and England foisted Israel on Palestine. Peoples were forcibly removed from their land of many many generations.

I don’t recall their leaders keeping their lives, either. Must have been terrible negotiators, the Nazis…

The USSR did, though.

Other then Russia they keep lots now they want it back because they are criminals

So should Ukraine surrender Like France in Ww2 ? Or Like America in Vietnam ?

No

Should the war continue until Putin is overthrown ? Or killed in a nuclear strike ?

It should continue until Ukraine no longer says it can continue.

But Should America nuke Moscow ?

F*CK no

Should America give back Land it conquered ?

After they had the proverbial beaten out of them. That really really wasn’t negotiation. Most wars ended with winners and losers. Non negotiable. Many losers ended as slaves.

And from smoking piles of rubble

But, you see, the bombing of Pearl Harbor was just the opening of a negotiation.

Dusko popov had all the information needed to prohib that attack. J Edgar hoover suppressed that information.

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LOL even if true it doesn’t exactly mitigate the impact of Japan’s decision to press the “Go” button.

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Japan gave up everything to keep the Emperor. And that's it, as far as I know. I'm pretty sure Germany got nothing. Italy had already fallen apart years before, so there wasn't a Fascist government to negotiate with, as Mussolini was hanging upside down at a gas station. Vance is a sketchy liar.

We knew before that he's pretty clueless. He's endeavoring to prove it.

An they didn't get any extra territory.

We all lose territory. People was displaced. Italians from the actual Slovenia, Germans from königsburg and sudeti, japanese from the kuril islands. This is history

And the reorganised political parties (CLN) showed that there was a real possibility of starting a free liberal political regime, respectful of human rights and without expansionist ambitions

Although the Potsdam Declaration (which formed the basis of the surrender) used the term "unconditional", Japan agreed to surrender on its terms with one exception -- Hirohito remained emperor -- and the Allies accepted that condition.

Eh. Japan got to keep the Emperor. But yes.

And lost territory

Not totally. We let Japan keep their emporer

Sure...but he remained subservient to Gen. MacArthur.

Then, there was the whole 'Hitler blew his brains out' thingy.

Having been battered into submission and with no territorial gains.

Both lost their war

Yes...but Ukraine hasn't.

Then they should be able to demand concessions thru negotiations