when I saw ppl posting "elon did nazi salutes at inauguration" I assumed he like waved weirdly and ppl were interpreting that ungenerously but holy shit nope. just full on nazi goosestepping salutes. I'm sure they will say he was doing an epic 300 thing or whatever but cmon man
NO mistaking that gesture.
Whether it's a roman salute or nazi salute. Whatever excuse you run into There are a group of Elon/MAGA fans who WANT this to be a nazi salute and are excited to cheer it on. They feel seen by the US government That's the scary part
And he did it twice! There's zero room for plausible deniability.
Musk is one of those super nerds who aren’t always “body conscious” or “coordinated” . I think he got over excited and showed his “on the Spectrum awkwardness”. I think he was trying to say “ my heart goes out to you “
Oh piss off. He knew what he was doing.
I have two autistic kids & an autistic niece, and they are awkward at times, but they would never do that, even when very animated. On a deep level they understand what a horrible gesture it is, and the history behind it. Autism doesn’t make you forget a thing like that.
I am autistic, half blind and horrifically clumsy and that leads to dropping things, accidentally knocking people’s glasses off and tripping over my own feet. Not once have I accidentally raised a Seig Heil, let alone twice. I am awkward, not stupid.
Ngl, I’m getting fairly irked at people saying it was somehow his autism that made his arm shoot out like that. I have two autistic kids and they are well aware of how horrible a gesture that is. Both of them were horrified at Musk dong that. It’s got zero to do with autism, he’s just a horror.
In his mind he’s thinking my heart goes out to you and makes a gesture emulating that feeling. He’s literally on a stage in front of the entire world so maybe he’s a bit exited . In that situation it would be easy to make a weird twitch or movement if you’re already kind of uncoordinated.
In YOUR mind, he’s throwing his heart out. No one can definitively say what was going on in HIS mind. And, fwiw, if you’re trying to convey that your heart goes out to someone, you’d do it palm-up, in an offering gesture.
*words biggest jerk off motion*
Even if that’s the (credulous given his history and character) take I expect people with that much power and influence to have a little more self awareness and self control. That wasn’t a “twitch”. Seriously.
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Why does AI make him look asian. Also the background is wrong
A video game move? 🤣🤣🤣 Dangerous ppl.
biden: "welcome home"
Gotta show him doing it twice just to confirm to people how sincerely fascist he is
You DO NOT aggressively bite your lower lip when you throw love to someone.
Exactly. That face he made was so full of hate & rage, two emotions which don’t generally sit comfortably with LOVE.
He has removed that part from the video already apparently.
He gave the salute aggressively.
Or try to blame it on his Asperger’s… smh
Well yeah my autism makes me regularly throw out explicitly racist gestures at random, except it doesn’t because that isn’t how autism fucking works.
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I mean Dan did also predict Trump being president in like 2011 but it’s up there.
We don't have to put up with this shit. www.change.org/embargo-schu...
this post, the "the problems are bad but their causes? very good" post, and the "what if we monetize the rot?" post are all in the same family of epoch defining posts
So savvy
I didn't expect the culturally liberal part to be so negotiable tbh
Wow, he cooked with this one.
It’s not even Dans most prescient tweet, this one got a Newsweek article www.newsweek.com/everyone-was...
holy shit
it's this or the one with the brony venn diagram
that's it
Well @osullyville.bsky.social you'll always have this 🤌
and they're reconsidering a lot of the culturally liberal part now too
idk why they want to go back to the antebellum era, not a very profitable or culturally vibrant period in amerikan history
The capitalists ruled like kings and they don’t care about anything else
they overlook the part where it was like 5 people and the threat of rebellion and violence was constant
They all think they’re those 5 people and are deeply ignorant of the rest
im aware, it is a time of chaos, sadly
Yeah, that's almost gone entirely
*terms and conditions may apply
I'm afraid to ask the oracle for an update
Well I figured Kamala would win. So I think I lost my crystal ball
also calling the dems "culturally liberal" is generous, as an understatement
Culturally liberal but also willing to throw any marginalized group under a bus the moment it becomes inconvenient to defend them
in 2013 I knew the GOP would be the open nazi party by now but i also thought the Dems would be well on their way to being the tankie party by now
Ratchet only works one way unfortunately 😒
I didn't count on the Dems seeing how relatively leftist the youths were and Weekend at Bernie's-ing 100 congresspeople to keep those youths out
Haha yeah supposedly centre-left parties receiving a sudden influx of youthful support, realising they'd have to move one iota left in order to keep it and deciding they'd rather lose weird that it happened twice etc
I did not watch…. Is it true?
“Errol explained how right-wing poltics were at the core of his family's history. Elon's maternal grandparents relocated from Canada to South Africa in the early 1900s as they knew the Afrikaner government was a stronghold of support for Nazism outside of Germany”. www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news...
More on the Musk grandparents here. It was Elon Musk’s mother’s parents who were Nazi supporters. His mother, May Musk, has a lot of influence on Elon Musk. #Nazis #Inauguration #Musk #Trump #FarRight #NaziSalute www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMusk...
they are gonna go the route of autistic smol bean
Even if they are saying he was doing an epic 300 thing, that movie was racist as hell and the Spartans it depicted were proto-fascists that Hitler greatly admired. So it’s still that bad even if that is what he was doing.
Zack Snyder is an avowed libertarian who thinks “fascism has its merits”, so it’s not that surprising it’s so popular with conservatives
Frank Miller is even worse. And 300 is a faithful adaptation of the comic.
Yeah that stupid space movie series he did had all the same ideas in it as 300, just papered over with the science fiction so it comes across as relatively subtle. 300, though… that film was just raw in how blatant it is.
Even his depiction of Superman is as a randian ubermensch whose adoptive parents tell him that he shouldn’t feel obligated to use his godlike powers to save The Little Guy because what did they do to deserve salvation etc
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No.
Remember when the disabled Spartan is invited into Xerxes’ tent and it’s just a right-wing caricature of Tumblr?
The “next they’ll make master chief a fat black disabled tranny” crowd got their ideas from somewhere, after all
That character was, I guess, meant to illustrate that the Spartans were right to kill all the babies with physical imperfections because look what happens if one slips through the process.
It's almost as if the movie is a satire whose framing device is a Spartan soldier amping up his troops by talking about how awesome their eugenicist society is, and that fascists latched onto it because they can't comprehend satire
Holy shit this is the dumbest take I’ve ever seen in my life
300 is fascist propaganda, Zack Snyder is an objectivist / libertarian, I’m sorry your taste in movies sucks ass
This is cute. The fascists discovered the “Starship Troopers is a satire” analysis and now think that they can just call everything a “satire” and suddenly it’s okay! That Triumph of the Will is some fine satire, peeps. After that let’s watch another fine satire, Birth of a Nation.
You seem to be blocking everyone who disagrees with you, but this is incorrect. The politics of Frank Miller and Zach Snyder are no secret.
Lol I haven't blocked anybody within the past few hours, they've blocked me. Miller had his post-9/11 conservative phase that he's since recovered from, and Snyder has gone on record to say he's a Democrat
Meet the Spartans is parody, not satire. Nice try
Oh okay, so then you just misunderstood the intentions of Miller and Snyder then. Because neither the comic nor the movie were ever intended as satire, unless you can find an interview with either that I missed.
No, that character was supposed to represent the real person who was disabled and betrayed the Spartans, Athenians, and other Greeks who gathered to fight the Persians. He was a real person, not a creation for a subtext.
Was he disabled though? Admittedly I haven’t looked into it that particular person but while he was a real person the idea that he was disabled seems to be a recent (Miller) invention.
In fairness, yes, he may not have been. The histories I have read have him as incapable of lifting a shield. Yet, and I don’t mean this as ableist, he was disabled to them?
Got ya. Though to that point, the Spartans had a very long and deep list of what was "disabled" and were heavy on what we would today recognise as eugenics. For Ephialtes to have survived childhood it couldn't have been *too* bad. As I mentioned earlier, Hitler was a big fan of the culture, so yeah
It certainly wasn't particularly charitable to the idea of a disabled person siding with the people that were significantly more accepting of him.
As far as I know the deformed Ephialtes of Trachis was an invention of Miller’s and… yeah that is quite the historical revisionism for reasons that cannot possibly be benign.
“What kind of monster would betray his homeland (a society built on the idea that he should have been killed at birth)?”
But real talk I cannot get over just how propagandised that story of the 300 is for exactly all the Hitler-esque reasons you can thing. The Persian empire then was about as progressive as empires get, especially for its time. But its opponent was the white beefcake neckbeards, so…
Yeah ngl Big Joel was far too charitable to Snyder in his 300 video. That man (Snyder) consistently makes the most right-coded dilapidated sphincters in popular film.
He’s a nazi he did a nazi salute FACT
I popped over to the old place to see if the scales had fallen from the eyes. Nope, full of 'he's throwing his heart out' or worse 'it's a roman salute'. Like that isn't better dudes, it's literally a fascist gesture.
May he meet the same fate as Mussolini.
Inshallah
The “future” of civilization is assured. What he means the future that white man will dominate..
I jumped when I saw that like I still can’t believe what I saw.
Same. Had to watch the video. I can't believe I'm shocked but I am.
of course he made it look as stupid as possible but i don't know what else it was supposed to be
Yep. That video is clear as fuck.
She used that gesture as a measurement. Stop spreading bullshit.
I see you're missing the irony of this post. For context, Elon stated "My heart goes out to you" after this gesture. It is not a Nazi salute. Here's the clip for context that CNN didn't replay
3 times? The far right Nazi sites are all praising him for the salute. They know.
There are people who think he is doing a Nazi Salute on both sides. They're wrong. It was not a salute
He’s co-signed antisemites on his platform. Elon Musk is an antisemite. Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas. This was a Nazi salute… twice so it wasn’t ambiguous.
You are a rube who falls for a performance. Like the kippah would burst into flames if it touched a non-believer’s head. Any bigot can play dress up.
Still photo of someone using their arm is a lot different than video evidence of Musk goose stepping… twice.
It's an ironic post. For context, Elon stated "my heart goes out to you" after doing the gesture. If it was "intentional", it was definitely a troll.
‘Elons ‘Roman Salute’ brings all the racist to the yard’ 🎤🎶
Ok brains trust. Keep drinking the koolaid.
If I'm drinking Kool aid, you and I are just drinking different flavors.
Ok captain marvel.
I don't even know what you're talking about
Hey, everyone! Here he is ☝️
If you want, I have the video here...
They are already saying he was "just throwing his heart out to the audience," a definitely real thing that for sure exists
"hE's sO eDgY!"
Full on chest pat and all. Twice to make sure everyone saw.
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At least he does in such a dorky way that it makes Nazis look like the losers they actually are
Im not surprised
It would be wise to assume the worst case scenario for all Republicans moving forward. Anyone who voted for Trump should be assumed to be a rapist, Nazi, or both.
He’s a fascist Nazi Bastard
yah thought same but nope, Elon serving nazi cringe confirmed and its only Day 1.
Why are yall surprised??? He is from south africa😭
Doing it twice really torpedos the ambiguity.
He what--
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3 times actually www.themirror.com/news/politic...
Jesus
Jesus has nothing to do with that ^-^
jesus has everything to do with this
“accused of” damn maybe the reporter could watch the damn video and find out
He did it twice. Like, maybe once could be a super awkward, comes out of his mind "wave," but the way he turned and repeated was so precise and calculated. Nazi piece of shit
it was both unambiguous and terribly awkward-looking, like he was in a Three Stooges WWII short
There was no mistaken tha salute.
yes we will be gaslighted to death about what we saw. But it's absolutely what we saw
The ADL saying nah man it wasn't that bad broke me today
They’re trying to spin it as him “throwing his heart into the crowd” with the flattest palm imaginable
Twice?
He doesn't have a heart to throw. Let alone two.
I mean, the dude slammed his chest then grunted as he flung his hand out. I assume he was high as hell, but still, clearly intentional with just a sliver of plausible deniability.
He turned around and did it again, how many hearts does this fucker have
Worst Time Lord ever.
Zero. He has exactly zero hearts.
Except he said his heart goes out to the audience after the Nazi salutes then he says the most Aryan Racist thing you can think on afterwards
Chris, it took us 2 hours to break our “not gonna get mad at everything Trump-related for 4 straight years”
I had “first Nazi salute” at two weeks in the office pool. My parlay is fucked.
I saw the Chuds on Reddit claiming that and what a reach. So tired of the gaslighting from these losers
I had this exact convo with my wife. Me: Elon did a full Nazi saulte after his inauguration speech. Her: So he like picked up his hand weird and it'll be a debate for people? Me: People will debate still but....*show her* Her: 😮
i mean all the twitter nazis were like hell yeah this is awesome so they sure think it was what it looked like
Its like that white supremacist who talked about how his people would watch episodes of Tucker Carlsons show multiple times. Once for fun and once to appreciate how well he spread their message.
My wife showed my uninformed, Trumper mother, her reaction 🤷♂️
" OOPSIE! I guess we accidentally elected a Nazi and his frens~ Too bad, we can't do anything about it now. It's the will of the people after all " - Every Trumper pretending not to be ok with this.
Was it accidentally, though?
They'll tell you that. If they acknowledge the obvious Nazi's in our government at all.
Horrible ignorant people😥
I don't think people change their mind in an instant. Its more the drip, drip, drip. And a series of steps.
That assumes people care enough to reflect on themselves and their beliefs. I don’t think many people who haven’t already have it in them. The cult beat it out of them.
Have you ever changed your mind about anything significant?
Having been raised as a Fire and Brimstone christian republican to now being an atheist leftist, yeah, I think so. But it took a lot of introspection and hard work (and a fair amount of wtf injected by Trump back in 2015) to break through and it still wasn’t easy.
I just don't think Trump supporters care anymore. They're too far gone.
They are now attempting to hide the truth by asserting that it is a Roman salute that was adopted from the Romans. 🤦🏻♀️We know what it is.
same. I saw people freaking out and usually take things like that with a grain of salt because not everything means something. but yeah no that wasn’t subtle. that was a full on fucking nazi salute. I am sick to my stomach.
Same! I figured there would at least be room for plausible deniability and gaslighting it away, but NOPE!
Christ and a half
At first I thought it was a dab until he did the second one. Wtf!
OH MY GOSH EW?!?!?!🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
It takes a deliberate effort to make your arm & hand this straight.
And the actual venom he does it with… with real feeling!?
That's one of the scariest things I've ever seen. Even footage of the original 1930s Nazis didn't look as fucking into it as he just did.
It’s like he REALLY means it.
No shit he means it, he’s a boer who grew up in apartheid South Africa
His grandparents moved there BECAUSE of apartheid.
The ones who moved their were even more racist than the Boer side of his family
Great. So why’s he doing what can only be called a nazi style salute?!
Count me in
Let’s give them something they can’t take off.
isnt gonna end well for him
What can anyone do to him?
Trump is just waiting for when he can toss that dude out. He already got to cast out Vivek. Elon's exile will come.
I feel like Elon may have had something to do with that tho. Now Elon gets to run the show.
Sure, they're all willing to eat each other. They all think they're the greatest/smartest person alive. But Trump churns through people and Elon doesn't even have a real position. Also, Elon is a deeply annoying person. There is just 0 chance Trump deals with it long term.
Hopefully you're right! Hes so awful.
just don’t think his dumb meme clowning is gonna fly even with this shithead administration. if nothing else they still want to maintain bond with israel, for example
I think it's simpler than that. Trump thinks he's in charge because he's president Elon thinks he's in charge because he has all the money. Those 2 perspectives do not mix But only one of them is the president.
tbh i think any little stupid thing elon does for attention is his biggest misstep. trump will suffer a fool but not someone who also wants the spotlight
My hope is that it's a big public break and Musk tries to turn "X" against Trump. But I'll settle for, like, Trump not letting Elon on AF1 and them both being really passive aggressive on their respective social media sites.
I really hope you're right. I hope they end up miserable.
If it makes you feel any better, Elon is already, clearly, a miserable person. It drips off of him. So we're already halfway there.
Had to ingratiate himself to the racist base again after that whole H-1B debacle. Gonna see a lot more and probably a lot worse in the next year
Half of social media now is "uhmm acktually it was a roman salute" apologia, which is completely mental. Like are you not seeing any other historical correlations here?
The story on X, the Everything App, is that he was doing a "my heart goes out to you" gesture, as one does.
That's not "the story" that's directly what he said while *smirking profusely* to add plausible (to the fash-loving media) deniability.
And whenever one's heart goes out to a crowd, that's clearly the motion everyone does. It's as American as apple pie!
And sure, cause why else would you aggressiveky bite your lower lip. Ffs.
Yes. His heart goes out to nazis.
He even grunted. That was in no way a weird wave to the crowd. I’m sure the media will try to convince us it was.
Have to question anyone still using X or driving a Tesla at this point. I don’t care
He let the mask finally slip
The dumbest people in the world are going to shamelessly argue that he was doing the “my heart goes out to you” gesture. The one we all know and love to use and have definitely seen a single person on Earth use before.
#Elon
Why didn't people believe them when they were telling us who they were?
His friends from the Proud Boys were outside cheering for him. He knew what he was doing.
Before we go spinning into their “fact checking.” The right arm salute was very common before the NAZI party co-opted it. The US military used that salute before and through World War One. Don’t give them the easy out. Use proper arguments, not ones the pop-culture masses will glob onto.
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They're already spinning the "it's not a nazi salute, it's a roman one" Dude the nazi deliberately used the Roman salute, and that salute isn't even confirmed as something that really existed. Now they're spinning the Asperger defense, but no one with Asperger ever did that, especially not twice.
He's likely been chomping at the bit to be able to do this in public. For someone that believes that vast majority of people in this country are only "NPCs" the ideology fits.
They’re saying it was a Roman salute
Elon gets his name from a book written by a nazi. Von braun wrote a book called project mars. In the book the leader of a colony on Mars is called the ELON.
Yep! And his father Errol recently said that Elon is “fulfilling his destiny”.
Technocracy Inc and Howard scot. 🤔
Remember when 88 generals signed to support the FOTUS back in 2016? At the time, 88 was such an odd number to me. Later, as Charlottesville unfolded, I became aware of Nazi signs and slogans via the SPLC and ADL. The “a-ha” moment. 88 was not a mere coincidence… www.politico.com/story/2016/0...
And it wasn't in any way faint-hearted...it was blatant and defiant and repeated. Even a lot of Trump supporters are going to be pissed at him. They don't want the obvious part spelled out that blatantly. They want plausible deniability.
i forgot about that. christ
yeah they'll throw out some flimsy explanation it's up to everyone else not to normalize it the media is already doing that enough
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I think if you got a Tesla before 2022 you're in the clear. Just be sure to purchase a sticker that says "I bought this before he was an open Nazi"
nope
Gets worse, NYT doing total gas lighting bsky.app/profile/pppa...
Why was he even giving a speech in an inauguration?
Because he’s the real president and trump is his puppet.
Everybody say it loud: Pull the plug on Tesla!
Lmfao he wants to make some exceptions for the people he needs to exploit?? Wow never considered that, truly impossible to be a fucked up fash now!
the funniest thing is that the "Roman Salute" ... is literally a nazi salute and a name used exclusively by nazis trying to beat around the bush.
Nazis loved importing minorities
And this is why we need to spread the video. They will deny, lie, and make excuses. People need to see what he actually did. Preferably side by side with Hitler so they see exactly what it is.
Hitler responded to Hail Hitler, with "I feel for you". Nazis offering the fascist salute would say "Heil Hitler!" (Hail Hitler), "Heil, mein Führer!" (Hail my leader), or "Sieg Heil!" (Hail victory). Hitler answered with the gesture "Heil das volk" (hail our people), or Danke (thank you).
i'm tired, krang. so very tired
They already are...
The Reich Wingers are saying "he was saying his heart goes out to the people there. He was thanking them." That's not how one gestures to show your heart goes out to people...
people will say it's a "Roman salute" as if there's literally any difference, because the Nazi salute was adapted FROM the Roman salute just like a lot of Nazi architecture was
Also the evidence that the Roman Empire ever used this salute is the same as the evidence that Julius Caesar did the Charleston. It's a fascist salute.
They are already denying what it was.
