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Holger Hestermeyer @hhesterm.bsky.social

Just one comment on the Herzog visit: statements of cabinet members are attributable to Israel. If you do not want them to be taken seriously, do not make them ministers. www.theguardian.com/politics/202...

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sep 11, 2025, 6:40 am • 47 11

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Doctor Jeff Hawn 🌻🇬🇧🇺🇸🇺🇦 @jhawn.bsky.social

There ministers of state how exactly are we NOT supposed to take what they say seriously

sep 11, 2025, 7:35 am • 0 0 • view
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Photography by Alfie Goodrich @alfie.photography

And a ton of people are also saying “Yeah, but Herzog is just a figurehead. He’s not the one making policy or who should be arrested.” ….but he’s now the one telling us not to take what cabinet members say as fact? Ok. Lying for these people is like breathing for us.

sep 11, 2025, 8:39 am • 0 0 • view
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Holger Hestermeyer @hhesterm.bsky.social

Itamar Ben-Gvir is minister of National Security. And Herzog is saying ‚yeah, but do not pay attention to him when it comes to national security‘?

sep 11, 2025, 6:43 am • 26 0 • view
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Mats Bengtsson @matslbengtsson.bsky.social

Is Herzog expressing a statement of fact, or a statement of wishful thinking? As long as evidence lacks of the former, I choose to believe the latter.

sep 11, 2025, 6:48 am • 0 0 • view
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Holger Hestermeyer @hhesterm.bsky.social

It is not the first time I read the ‚don‘t take them seriously‘ line. I think it is part of a process of trying to comfort yourself. ‚No, I am one of the good guys, this is just a necessary compromise‘. But while I understand that Herzog wants to believe that, it remains utterly wrong.

sep 11, 2025, 6:50 am • 1 0 • view
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Dominic Manchee @dpmanchee.bsky.social

Depends on interpretation of intent ? IMO saying 'we currently have no plans to ...' doesn't necessarily mean there is no intent. See Ireland's intervention in the case before the ICJ www.icj-cij.org/case/192/int...

sep 11, 2025, 7:16 am • 0 0 • view
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Dominic Manchee @dpmanchee.bsky.social

"intent can also be inferred ... where a reasonable person would have foreseen that the natural and probable consequence of the acts of the perpetrator was to so destroy or contribute to destruction of the protected group, and the perpetrator was reckless as to whether those acts would do so"

sep 11, 2025, 7:17 am • 0 0 • view
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Joe Noonan @joenoonan.bsky.social

“Wait - you don’t trust what we say?”

Starmer with Herzog.
sep 11, 2025, 6:45 am • 0 0 • view