🇫🇷 Macron: "We know what the lack of security guarantees means. It happened in Georgia in 2008, and it also happened in Crimea in 2014. There is complete certainty that if a peace agreement is concluded without security guarantees, Russia will never keep its word."
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As it stands right now, I doubt the current US administration will keep its word either. If I were Europe, I’d totally take the reins and tell Trump and Putin to f off.
Time for NATO to modify their charter and directly join the fight.
You say this like Ukraine didn't HAVE a recent security guarantee that the USA broke and abandoned.
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Two things - Putin will not keep his word. Trump will not keep his word either. Ukraine has been through this before.
Yeabut. Security guarantees WERE in place for Ukraine when putin attacked in 2014. And it was one of those guarantors that did the attacking, while the others did nothing. No, the only way to ensure Ukraine's sovereignty and safety is for ruzzia to comprehensively lose.
Russians AND The Pedophile President our Country can’t be trusted.
EXACTLY.
When has Russia ever kept their word? They break every agreement. I stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦 Free the kidnapped children Bomb Russia's pipelines until they run out of oil
There were security guarantees before 2014. These aren't uphold when it matters. The only security guarantees I would consider viable are nuke-shaped.
There is complete certainty Russia will never keep its word with or without security guarantees. Because they never do! Get Ukraine into the EU & NATO!
The only security guarantee in case of russia is an iron fist pointed at putin’s nose.
That table is tiny dick energy.
Moses said Let my People Go and Pharaoh hardened his heart. Putin enslaves people. Trump wants to go to heaven right??
I do love this photo.. abject humiliation of EUR by putin...
Come off it. How weak to you have to be to stage that kind of performative nonsense? He's terrified of assassination. He keeps everyone, including fellow Russians, at a distance unless they are securely on his security payroll.
lol.. do you have any idea of WHO putin is facing here..? or are you trolling me? all leaders are scared of assassination but here, we have something else...
Macron, of course. Putin is on home ground performing for his duped population. Do you think Macron doesn't realise that? European leaders go though the motions with him. His power is his awfulness. About time to shut down Russian oil and gas. Extractive dictators do nothing for their populations.
We have learned nothing at all from the past. They won't stop. They will repeat this in the future.
Except , they had security guarantees. When they gave up their nukes . They were given security guarantees . Even Russia gave them guarantees. 😂😂 They are worthless without the will to face Russia and its Nukes down.
And there's fuck all chance that Russia would keep its word even if there are security 'guarantees'. In the face of all the evidence of Putin's lack of integrity, why is it that people are blithely talking about security 'guarantees', as though they meant something?
Exactly.
So, France...you have Europe's strongest military. What are you going to DO about Russia?
There was a security guarantuee in 1994…
yeah, people think it was budapest memorandum but in reality it was poor ruzzian economy that postponed invasion.
Probably
russia won't keep it's word anyway.
(Checks notes) Neville Chamberlain gave Czechoslovakia "security guarantees" in exchange for "peace in our time". Hitler's troops occupied Czechoslovakia anyway, and Chamberlain's guarantees were never enforced. Will the EU and US enforce any 'security guarantees" they give Ukraine?
Europe has leaders with competence and time perspective. Macron one of them. Now it's time European leaders to take the leadership to make just peace in Ukraina.
This is why there will be no peace deal. Putin would only accept weakest security guarantees, no NATO troops on border, no advanced weapons for Ukraine army of limited size. He has prevented sanctions & will draw this out to drive the wedge between Ukraine & Europe vs demented Don.
There were security guarantees. ruSSia never keeps it word, the west is too pusillanimous to take decisive action
Or the Tangerine Felon
Fear of assassination.
The moral distance between them is quite evident by this picture.🤦♀️ Says it all…..
Obviously Putin is wearing Tom Cruise shoe lifts. (It’s a wedge shoe that looks like a flat shoe.)
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As others have already noted, an agreement already exists, the Budapest Memorandum. Neither Russia nor the US are honoring that. Clearly, agreements with Russia and the US are worthless. Certain defeat or domestic unrest are probably the only Russian deterrents.
And it is a certainty the US won’t keep any security guarantees we make. We proved that when Russia took Crimea and we are doing it now. 20k children abducted. Putin won’t leave Ukraine, just as Trump won’t leave the WH unless made to do so.
This Macron is a virus carrier and needs to be kept at a safe distance! These rotten and decadent so-called dignitaries carry all kinds of viruses!
Russia already hasn’t kept its word. There’s no agreement Putin will honor. He needs to be arrested, tried for his crimes, found guilty, and hung on a wall as an example. Period.
Or flung out a window or down some stairs. Maybe poisoned like he did Navalny.
Ah ha that's why Trump loves Russia so much, they lie.
Even with those security "guarantees", Russia never keeps their word
Neither will the US as long as Krasnov is in the White House.
Neither will America ever
I think we all agree, that neither UA nor EU should relay on any papers from US or RU. These times are gone.
Agreed. You took the words right out of my mouth.
"Pass the peas."
Why do world leaders agree to sit at that ridiculous table? If more leaders responded appropriately, Putin wouldn’t think he’s legitimate. A typical reaction would be: “I’m not sitting at that stupid table. Cut the crap.” And then walk out of the room.
I wouldn’t trust the tangerine felon or the KGB Dictator with a security guarantee. They are working together and the tangerine felon is taking orders from the KGB Dictator
Yes, he is. He even called Vlad and spoke to him for 40 minutes during this "summit."
Ukraine had "security guarantees" in 2014. Words are useless unless said guarantees are at least backed up by a tripwire force.
Macron is failing to acknowledge that even with security guarantees, Russia will never keep its word. Remember why Ukraine gave up their nukes post USSR in the first place.
Europe needs to understand trump does not care.
There won't be a peace agreement with Putin. Like there wasn't any peace agreement with Hitler.
Security guarantees are worth zilch. Ask also Cyprus. Indeed ask Ukraine itself when it was persuaded to give up much of its weaponry. The best security is generally EU membership because even a small member can make life hard for those (almost all other countries) needing something from the EU
Macron is 100% right, russia ALWAYS lies and ALWAYS breaks all treaties.
Everyone else in the world sees right through Putin, with the exception of our administration???!
Putin sees right through Trump because Trump is on Putin’s paycheck.
Ils ont failli sortit du cadre de la photo. J'ai eu la peur de ma vie .
Troops in NATO should be deployed in Ukraine to fight Russia. I know that is a tough decision to make, but good men need to step up. Russia won't stop there.
Well gee, Budapest Memorandum PROVES they dont keep their word. Or the US either!
Yep.
Putin will not stop on his own.
I think it's time to vote for reform europe party hard in next eu elections. They clearly has more understanding and a better vision for Europe. I agree with macron on many europe related statements
Russia out of Ukraine
Anyone who's lived in Russia even during the Soviet era would know that the Russian rulers never keep their word.
It's not entirely true,do you remember Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact😀
Unfortunately NATO is no more trustworthy than Russia.
Why are they at a table that's 50 feet long? Are they afraid they'll get coodies?
Ironic knowing how many countries France has colonized and invaded and refused to return to this very day.
Russia is still the biggest colonial empire to this day. Being one big piece doesn't mean it's not colonialism
Alt text: picture of a fat scared sick cowering putin at the end of an extremely long table because he was so full of his own self-importance that he couldn't risk getting Covid and not surving and President Macron
I do not understand why everyone is striving for some sort of peace deal instead of finishing of russia once and for all
Putin never keeps his word. Duh.
Ukraine should have never given up their nukes.
Giving up nukes was the moral thing to do. But the security guarantees should've included Western troops based long term on Ukrainian soil.
We didn’t keep our promises and the nukes would have kept Russia at bay.
They might have. Maybe the Baltics would've been invaded instead.
I’m sure Putin would have done something violent and stupid.
Rather than security guarantees, an armed European force is needed to push Putin back from Ukraine's internationally recognized borders, including Crimea.
Nobody wants a ground offensive because that will start a world war
If this isn't stopped, we'll have one anyway, at some point.
Seeing as how the polling for a ground offensive is very low in the US I don't see if happening. I also don't support it unless the US is directly attacked.
At the same time, we did sign off on security guarantees if they gave up their nukes. In hindsight, Ukraine should have refused to give those up, and they probably wouldn't have been invaded.
Russia will see to it that "Security Guarantees" take decades to agree on.
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Macron also said that Putin is an "ogre" who cannot stop eating to survive. bsky.app/profile/afp....
Macron a raison
He cannot run for re-election. He speaks truth.
Russia will not abide by any security guarantees!
No security guarantee is going to be respected - Ukraine gave up nukes in 1994 in return for guarantees of its territorial integrity and sovereignty (the Budapest Memorandum) - didn't stop Putin.
We also know what security guarantees mean in reality. Stop talking about peace, and start acheiving it by defeating russia, bankrupting russia, de-militarising russia, and and stop caring about their feelings about it. Send them straight back to the 80's.
No country wants to go boots on the ground
Tout à fait d’accord !🙏🇫🇷🇪🇺
Precisely.
Macron has no fear.
Never trust FELON 47 or Putin or anyone in n the Republican Party.
What about 1994 American security guarantees 🤔 ?
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That is exactly what I mean. US security guarantees have the same value as Putin word.
I’m with you!
Most certainly can't cede a physical defensive line for metaphysical promises.
Of course not. That will end anyway as a direct fight Europe (main ones) against Russia.
Macron on French TV: Putin is the Ogre at our door.
Even with all the security guarantees in the world it won’t stop 🇷🇺. Trump blames Biden. The next guy will blame Trump. What does it really matter? The only guarantee is a nuclear weapon. Your right to exist is proportional to your ability to deter your neighbours from stealing your stuff.
They figure this out just now ? S. Lavrov said it best himself:"Any agreement with Russia is only valid while it benefits Russia." Russians have half a dozen words for lying; it's just who they are.
Russia will never keep its word.
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Yea, Ukrainians are so happy for the Budapest memorandum. Who knows what could have happened without it.
Clinton explained it… youtu.be/V60uwLZQw8E
I agree 100% 👍
Let’s stop pretending. Ukraine had “security guarantees”: russia signed them too. Then it stole Crimea in 2014 and launched a full-scale war in 2022. If guarantees are the same as before, the only question is: when will Moscow attack again?
The World has learned… DO NOT TRUST PUTIN…DO NOT TRUST HIS LAP DOG TRUMP.PERIOD. FULL STOP!
Russia WILL NEVER keep it's word. Guarantees are not, Russia cannot be trusted. Neither can djt.
Anyone who believes that Putin will be a part of or honor something honorable is a fool.
Pootin will NEVER keep his word!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Ukraine is forced to cede territory then Ukraine should be admitted to NATO no question.
ruzzia will never keep its word anyway. Or have we forgotten about the “green corridors” at the beginning of 2022?
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