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Eberhard Tarpenning @keikiokaaina.bsky.social

At worst they were harassing her. Losing GPS navigation in a radar monitored airspace is not an emergency. Do you think that commercial jets never have nav system failures? Happens all the time. Press reporting of aviation news is almost always embarrassingly bad.

sep 1, 2025, 2:56 pm • 3 0

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Cranky Gardener @subsundog.bsky.social

Serving spoiled food happens all the time. Do you think restaurants never have rotten food? At worst people get a tummy ache.

sep 2, 2025, 1:42 am • 0 0 • view
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Eberhard Tarpenning @keikiokaaina.bsky.social

Terrible analogy. You can do better. Planes lose GPS all the time and nothing bad happens because of triple redundant nav systems. Try "the food was spoiled so the kitchen changed it out for fresh food so everyone was fine and enjoyed the meal and never knew there was an issue in the kitchen".

sep 2, 2025, 2:14 am • 0 0 • view
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Cranky Gardener @subsundog.bsky.social

The food was spoiled but some people didn’t get sick. It happens all the time

sep 2, 2025, 2:50 am • 0 0 • view
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Eberhard Tarpenning @keikiokaaina.bsky.social

Purposely disingenuous or just can't grasp the concept? I'm leaning toward the latter.

sep 2, 2025, 3:23 am • 0 0 • view
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Cranky Gardener @subsundog.bsky.social

No it’s ok if Russia did that, it happens all the time

sep 2, 2025, 3:57 am • 0 0 • view
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Queerhawk 🏳️‍🌈 | 🇺🇦 | 🛡 @alwaysadorecats.bsky.social

Russia could choose to stop trying to murder people in the EU at any time.

sep 1, 2025, 5:17 pm • 5 0 • view
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Eberhard Tarpenning @keikiokaaina.bsky.social

What you say is true, but has nothing to do with this provocation. No one on either side thought for a second that jamming GPS on a capable airliner would be anything other than a symbolic annoyance. No one was in danger.

sep 1, 2025, 9:01 pm • 0 0 • view
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Lindsay Beyerstein @beyerstein.bsky.social

Disabling the navigational equipment on a commercial airliner is not symbolic, it's terrorism.

sep 1, 2025, 9:04 pm • 5 0 • view
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Lindsay Beyerstein @beyerstein.bsky.social

Flying a giant Putin banner from the Manhattan bridge was symbolic. Messing with navigational equipment is life and death.

sep 1, 2025, 9:06 pm • 3 0 • view
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Eberhard Tarpenning @keikiokaaina.bsky.social

I hate Putin too, but losing 1 of 3 nav systems on a modern airliner is an everyday occurrence in commercial aviation and is an annoyance at worst. Symbolic, rude, but not dangerous.

sep 1, 2025, 10:05 pm • 0 0 • view
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Lindsay Beyerstein @beyerstein.bsky.social

If an American did that to a US plane, they'd be charged with terrorism.

sep 1, 2025, 10:11 pm • 1 0 • view
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Eberhard Tarpenning @keikiokaaina.bsky.social

100% agree. Not saying it wasn't bad. My point was that there was never any danger of a bad outcome in the aviation situation. Absent GPS, there are at least 3 other systems to get the plane to its destination: internal nav, VOR, vectoring from the best ATCs on the planet in Europe.

sep 2, 2025, 2:06 am • 0 0 • view
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Queerhawk 🏳️‍🌈 | 🇺🇦 | 🛡 @alwaysadorecats.bsky.social

Was Russia’s attempt to assassinate Armin Papperger also just a symbolic annoyance? It’s a pattern of behavior.

sep 1, 2025, 9:07 pm • 1 0 • view